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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 28, 2017 5:18:15 GMT
I'm actually not a fan of nudity /sweatdrop I confess it just makes me roll my eyes. Nevertheless I feel for everyone who is disappointed, especially if it ultimately stays tame only for m/m... that's pretty much bullshit. I don't need nudity but you have to admit it's weird to see people have sex and take showers in their underwear. It's damn strange. Shots from behind or from the side make the most sense. But, as you say, it should be even between male and female. Funny, because Dorian and Cullen both showed butt in DAI but we probably won't see the same for the males in MEA.
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Post by sandalisthemaker on Jan 28, 2017 5:31:06 GMT
I really hope Reyes, since I'm all but convinced he's the gay LI, has his own face model. That may be too much to ask, but still.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Jan 28, 2017 6:43:06 GMT
I really hope Reyes, since I'm all but convinced he's the gay LI, has his own face model. That may be too much to ask, but still. I'm surely hoping they did, since they went to the trouble of getting a great VA for him. I see no point in getting myself worked up over "a friend of a friend who knows a guy said..." stuff yet. I'd be fine with less nudity than we saw in DAI, mainly because they kept showing my characters boobs, and I really have no interest in seeing that. I did certainly appreciate Dorian's bum scene though. I doubt they are afraid to add m/m butt into this game, it just probably wasn't shown in the short amount seen. It's the buildup to the big bang that I like the best though. Many of the guesses as to who can romance who seem pretty solid. I know they said that there would be option(s) for those who DON'T want sex in their relationship, I'm curious as to who that option would be. Didn't they also mention some romances might be only one night stand type of things? I really hope they don't make any of the main squadmates either of those.
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Post by London on Jan 28, 2017 7:20:41 GMT
I'm actually not a fan of nudity /sweatdrop I confess it just makes me roll my eyes. Nevertheless I feel for everyone who is disappointed, especially if it ultimately stays tame only for m/m... that's pretty much bullshit. I don't need nudity but you have to admit it's weird to see people have sex and take showers in their underwear. It's damn strange. Shots from behind or from the side make the most sense. But, as you say, it should be even between male and female. Funny, because Dorian and Cullen both showed butt in DAI but we probably won't see the same for the males in MEA. Cullen showed his butt? I never saw this!
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Post by jediguardian on Jan 28, 2017 7:46:14 GMT
OK, I try not to think much about Unbalance of Sex scene.
But Its look like Liam is not available for Scott. Why I cant have human male companion who can love me back???
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 28, 2017 8:50:09 GMT
I really hope Reyes, since I'm all but convinced he's the gay LI, has his own face model. That may be too much to ask, but still. I'm surely hoping they did, since they went to the trouble of getting a great VA for him. I see no point in getting myself worked up over "a friend of a friend who knows a guy said..." stuff yet. I'd be fine with less nudity than we saw in DAI, mainly because they kept showing my characters boobs, and I really have no interest in seeing that. I did certainly appreciate Dorian's bum scene though. I doubt they are afraid to add m/m butt into this game, it just probably wasn't shown in the short amount seen. It's the buildup to the big bang that I like the best though. Many of the guesses as to who can romance who seem pretty solid. I know they said that there would be option(s) for those who DON'T want sex in their relationship, I'm curious as to who that option would be. Didn't they also mention some romances might be only one night stand type of things? I really hope they don't make any of the main squadmates either of those. So you want people like me to be stuck with only the 'light' romances and none of the 'main' ones?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 9:09:43 GMT
Are there any credible leaks about Vetra? Would love a confirmation she is romanceable by manRyder....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 9:09:48 GMT
So Reyes is the current guess for the gay romance option, but we don't know what he looks like yet even? Interesting. I really wish they'd just say what all the options were like they did last time, so we'd have time to cope/make the best of the situation. It seems like the longer we wait the more disappointed some people will be.
Still haven't seen a lot of the possible options though possibly. I mean it is supposed to be the most romances ever. (not sure that's a good thing though since it means there most likely will be too many to have specialized content in dlc-DAI had that issue it seemed)
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Post by Sartoz on Jan 28, 2017 9:54:42 GMT
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I and others have speculated the human combo romances last year. Human to human, human to asari and human to adromedian Li were all speculated.
Once Bio confirmed the casual romances with the ship's crew, Ryder banging non squad mates was known. Also heavily hinted by Bio comments is the fact that some squad mates may be straight only or non straight only.
Where's the mountain made up from a hill? This "new" info/speculation is old hat.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 9:57:08 GMT
Probably the nudity will be all Sara's...because, you know...straight male's pleasures is always top priority... U_U Unfortunately I think it is worth remembering that (and I stand to be corrected if I am wrong) the lead devs on the game are straight men. I'm unaware of any LGBT person working on the game. Even if they are being inclusive to a point and, and including same-sex romances in the game, subconsciously there is always likely to be a heavy leaning towards favoring the straight male gaze, one could argue, given the information we have. Just look at Miranda, and the other scenes from Dragon Age games people have been mentioning. It would be nice for more women and LGBT writers and developers handling these romances and storylines. Not because I doubt Andromeda's devs won't deliver a good romance for LGBT people. Just from what has been speculated on the level of nudity regarding m/m scenes, it would be nice for there to be a dev who actually gets and puts in the equal amounts so that straight men and gay men are getting an equal balance of romance options, and decent love scenes. At this stage though, given the original trilogy, I think that straight men and lesbian women are going to have the most options. And better ones too, since they may have more than two of the starting squadmates to choose from. We know Scott has Cora and Peebee, and lesbian women have Peebee and maybe (this is speculation) Vetra. Straight women will only have Liam, and gay men may not have any of the five starting squadmates (Liam, Cora, Peebee, Vetra, Drack), which wouldn't surprise me given the original trilogy's handling of gay romances, and dev tweets about how the orientation and romances for squadmates and characters has to feel right, which gives me the gut feeling and disappointment that Liam is only for Sara, and not for Scott, which is why I'm disappointed. Obviously Liam for Scott would be great in and of itself, but also because it would mean EVERYONE has a starting squadmate as a LI. If BioWare really wanted to be inclusive and fair to everyone within the context of the game, I argue strongly for everyone getting a starting squadmate as a LI. They will be in the game for longer, and we can easily speculate they will have the most content and worthwhile interactions. Plus you can take your LI with you on missions. It is easily one of the most attractive romances to have. So everyone should be able to enjoy it. So Reyes is the current guess for the gay romance option, but we don't know what he looks like yet even? Interesting. I really wish they'd just say what all the options were like they did last time, so we'd have time to cope/make the best of the situation. It seems like the longer we wait the more disappointed some people will be. Still haven't seen a lot of the possible options though possibly. I mean it is supposed to be the most romances ever. (not sure that's a good thing though since it means there most likely will be too many to have specialized content in dlc-DAI had that issue it seemed) Reyes may end up being a squadmate, but I highly doubt it. He'll probably be an NPC or crewmember, like Cortez. I'd also hope he also has a face model. Based on tweets from the official Mass Effect twitter, we will eventually meet and learn more about the rest of the crew on the Tempest.
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Post by Sartoz on Jan 28, 2017 9:57:30 GMT
Folks, I don't mean to be rude, but I think everyone is forgetting a couple of important things, when it comes to nudity. In terms of rating and classification, it is a lot easier to get away with breast and butt nudity than showing penis. I don't think effort or inclusivity has everything to do with why there may not be any hard dicking action. No one is asking for genitals, but what's the point of showing butts in a M/F and F/F scene, but not showing anything in the M/M scene? ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Simple. Americans want to see "taste". Many have said so in this very excellent BSN. Their wish is granted.
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Post by Panda on Jan 28, 2017 9:58:00 GMT
It seems like people are quite in same page on what guessed LIs are and for who?
F/M: Liam, Jaal F/F: Peebee, Vetra M/M: Reyes, Jaal M/F: Peebee, Cora
Seems the general consensus.
I find it quite interesting how there seems to be general consensus on what guesses are (not necessarily what people would prefer though). Still, DAI LIs had big surprises for me on who was LI and who not so.. maybe ME:A will as well.
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Post by Sartoz on Jan 28, 2017 9:59:07 GMT
Maybe we'll get more than one love scene. That would be good...I'm very doubtful, but nonetheless it would be good. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
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Post by Sartoz on Jan 28, 2017 10:05:11 GMT
Wow! I had a busy day at work and came back to THIS! You all have been BUSY! So here's my thoughts: With regard to what my friend knows:
She only saw THREE of the romances. There is a TON of information that she hasn't seen. So let's not assume that this is extent of what will happen. My gut is that it's representative of what will happen elsewhere.
Basically, just because one of the m/m scenes didn't show any nudity doesn't mean that NONE of them will. But, given what's been seen, I think it's likely that the m/m scenes might be a bit tamer. Not a guarantee, though. And I CERTAINLY wouldn't go tweeting devs about it. But that's just me.
I think it's safe to say that there will be the same types of nudity as in DA: I (bare breasts and male and female bare butts). Not sure which scenes will have what outside of what I shared. I did find it a little strange that there was male nudity in a straight male PC romance scene and none in the gay male PC romance scene, but again, it's just a really small sample. Who knows if that will hold up when the others are shown? Basically, I think it's totally reasonable to lower expectations, but I'm not sure if it's "tweet a dev and ask them to clarify" worthy. But that's just me. lukensen87 : Your comment about Jaal Were you providing additional leaked information stating that someone you know indicated that Jaal is bisexual and that his scene with Scott ALSO contained no nudity, or were you speculating this? It was unclear to me based on how you wrote that. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Could be Bio Montreal is attempting to right the wrongs in DA:I?? or give equal opportunities? The North American rating for this game is probably M 17+.. there is nothing to see that you won't see when watching TV or go to a movie.
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Post by CrazyRah on Jan 28, 2017 11:03:51 GMT
This sounds highly interesting and I do like what I'm reading. Eagerly awaiting anything else you can share when possible
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 28, 2017 11:16:30 GMT
Wow! I had a busy day at work and came back to THIS! You all have been BUSY! So here's my thoughts: With regard to what my friend knows:
She only saw THREE of the romances. There is a TON of information that she hasn't seen. So let's not assume that this is extent of what will happen. My gut is that it's representative of what will happen elsewhere.
Basically, just because one of the m/m scenes didn't show any nudity doesn't mean that NONE of them will. But, given what's been seen, I think it's likely that the m/m scenes might be a bit tamer. Not a guarantee, though. And I CERTAINLY wouldn't go tweeting devs about it. But that's just me.
I think it's safe to say that there will be the same types of nudity as in DA: I (bare breasts and male and female bare butts). Not sure which scenes will have what outside of what I shared. I did find it a little strange that there was male nudity in a straight male PC romance scene and none in the gay male PC romance scene, but again, it's just a really small sample. Who knows if that will hold up when the others are shown? Basically, I think it's totally reasonable to lower expectations, but I'm not sure if it's "tweet a dev and ask them to clarify" worthy. But that's just me. lukensen87 : Your comment about Jaal Were you providing additional leaked information stating that someone you know indicated that Jaal is bisexual and that his scene with Scott ALSO contained no nudity, or were you speculating this? It was unclear to me based on how you wrote that. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Could be Bio Montreal is attempting to right the wrongs in DA:I?? or give equal opportunities? The North American rating for this game is probably M 17+.. there is nothing to see that you won't see when watching TV or go to a movie.
Which wrongness? Equal opportunities in terms of number of romances, it's too early to say, but I think we might get the same number between squad and crew, putting aside the ones in planets and/or Nexus. Peebee's being a bi LI makes the change Cora being bi as well really low. If they follow DAI's approach with not necessarily the same number of romances in the squad (originally there were supposed to be six, three males and three female, but with one in the advisor group and not the companions) Vetra might still be one (I think there's the same chance Drack is one as there is for Shepard being in Andromeda), but she'll be lesbian in this case.
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Post by darkstorne on Jan 28, 2017 11:58:17 GMT
It seems like people are quite in same page on what guessed LIs are and for who? F/M: Liam, Jaal F/F: Peebee, Vetra M/M: Reyes, Jaal M/F: Peebee, Cora Seems the general consensus. I find it quite interesting how there seems to be general consensus on what guesses are (not necessarily what people would prefer though). Still, DAI LIs had big surprises for me on who was LI and who not so.. maybe ME:A will as well. Yeah, and I loved that Inquisition's characters were like that. My biggest issue with DA2 was how so many of the companions seemed designed to cater to every possible player's sexual wants and requirements, instead of being designed with their own sexual identity. Maybe Inquisition went too far the other way, given it's a video game and not real life? Perhaps. But I'd much rather see Andromeda lean more towards Inquisition's approach to LIs than DA2's "If you want to f*** them, they want to f*** you too!"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 12:48:54 GMT
It seems like people are quite in same page on what guessed LIs are and for who? F/M: Liam, Jaal F/F: Peebee, Vetra M/M: Reyes, Jaal M/F: Peebee, Cora Seems the general consensus. I find it quite interesting how there seems to be general consensus on what guesses are (not necessarily what people would prefer though). Still, DAI LIs had big surprises for me on who was LI and who not so.. maybe ME:A will as well. Yeah, and I loved that Inquisition's characters were like that. My biggest issue with DA2 was how so many of the companions seemed designed to cater to every possible player's sexual wants and requirements, instead of being designed with their own sexual identity. Maybe Inquisition went too far the other way, given it's a video game and not real life? Perhaps. But I'd much rather see Andromeda lean more towards Inquisition's approach to LIs than DA2's "If you want to f*** them, they want to f*** you too!"All squadmates can be 'player' sexual, and still be designed as a character with their own desires and wants in a relationship. That is regardless of gender. The devs have already said not all romances in ME:A are actual relationship arcs, some are one night stands as well, and some are quicker to consummate than other more drawn out ones. Just because all squadmates being available to all genders doesn't automatically mean they are all just wanting to jump into bed with anyone and everyone. This is void anyway since we know they aren't ever going down the DA2 route again.
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Post by Solas on Jan 28, 2017 14:33:07 GMT
I know its pretty much a given anyway becuz asari, but bisexual asari LI makes my eyes roll SOOOOOO far back in my head lmao..
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Post by lilyenachaos on Jan 28, 2017 14:36:27 GMT
I'm surely hoping they did, since they went to the trouble of getting a great VA for him. I see no point in getting myself worked up over "a friend of a friend who knows a guy said..." stuff yet. I'd be fine with less nudity than we saw in DAI, mainly because they kept showing my characters boobs, and I really have no interest in seeing that. I did certainly appreciate Dorian's bum scene though. I doubt they are afraid to add m/m butt into this game, it just probably wasn't shown in the short amount seen. It's the buildup to the big bang that I like the best though. Many of the guesses as to who can romance who seem pretty solid. I know they said that there would be option(s) for those who DON'T want sex in their relationship, I'm curious as to who that option would be. Didn't they also mention some romances might be only one night stand type of things? I really hope they don't make any of the main squadmates either of those. So you want people like me to be stuck with only the 'light' romances and none of the 'main' ones? This post did not come out the way it was in my head, but that's what I get for posting so late. The one night stand thing, no, definitely not in the main squad. (Unless they are upfront from the beginning what they are after, so I can avoid them). I do not care if they have Josie/Solas style romances on the main squad. I have never done Josie's, but whether or not Solas/Inq were sleeping together seemed to be left up to the player, which was fun.
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Post by wright1978 on Jan 28, 2017 14:57:53 GMT
This post did not come out the way it was in my head, but that's what I get for posting so late. The one night stand thing, no, definitely not in the main squad. (Unless they are upfront from the beginning what they are after, so I can avoid them). I do not care if they have Josie/Solas style romances on the main squad. I have never done Josie's, but whether or not Solas/Inq were sleeping together seemed to be left up to the player, which was fun. Personally can't stand the ambiguous approach so hope they don't have that on main squad romances.
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Post by Gwydden on Jan 28, 2017 15:16:14 GMT
Two things:
Some people are acting like the information in this leak suggests some sort of conspiracy to cater to straight male sensibilities at all costs. But if I am reading it right (and do correct me if I'm wrong) F/F has the most nudity, with M/F showing comparatively less. I suppose you could argue "hot lesbians" but that seems like a rather roundabout way to go about it. If this is all straight male developers shafting everyone else then I don't see why they would bypass breasts in the M/F romances.
Secondly, I cannot imagine why there would be less nudity in M/M romances, and if that is the case it sucks and I feel ya, BUT... It does not imply that M/M romances will be subpar or getting less content. Not to mention that not showing someone's ass doesn't mean the scene won't be explicit in other ways. So hold your horses and take a deep breath.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 28, 2017 15:50:39 GMT
I don't need nudity but you have to admit it's weird to see people have sex and take showers in their underwear. It's damn strange. Shots from behind or from the side make the most sense. But, as you say, it should be even between male and female. Funny, because Dorian and Cullen both showed butt in DAI but we probably won't see the same for the males in MEA. Cullen showed his butt? I never saw this! There's a card game you get invited to by Varric if you make the right choices. I think he's got to be happy with you. Let's just say Cullen loses.
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Post by London on Jan 28, 2017 16:36:18 GMT
Cullen showed his butt? I never saw this! There's a card game you get invited to by Varric if you make the right choices. I think he's got to be happy with you. Let's just say Cullen loses. Oh I did see this scene but must have blinked and missed it ill have to review in YouTube and freeze frame lol
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Post by London on Jan 28, 2017 16:39:05 GMT
Two things: Some people are acting like the information in this leak suggests some sort of conspiracy to cater to straight male sensibilities at all costs. But if I am reading it right (and do correct me if I'm wrong) F/F has the most nudity, with M/F showing comparatively less. I suppose you could argue "hot lesbians" but that seems like a rather roundabout way to go about it. If this is all straight male developers shafting everyone else then I don't see why they would bypass breasts in the M/F romances. Secondly, I cannot imagine why there would be less nudity in M/M romances, and if that is the case it sucks and I feel ya, BUT... It does not imply that M/M romances will be subpar or getting less content. Not to mention that not showing someone's ass doesn't mean the scene won't be explicit in other ways. So hold your horses and take a deep breath. M/M be like: BroRyder sees MRomace down the hall. BroRyder waves. MRomance waves back. *fade to black* They wake up next to each other under the bed wearing spacesuits.
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