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Post by xilizhra on Mar 20, 2017 17:24:04 GMT
"Culminates in a unique 'friendship' after flirted with several times, opening unique content, with an additional option for exclusivity." screams "Lesser romance" to me tbh Improbable, as I doubt they'd give Peebee "lesser" status if Mac Walters is indeed so in love with asari. It probably just means they become friends with benefits first and can progress to full romance later.
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Post by ash on Mar 20, 2017 17:24:27 GMT
Aaand Avela has not a single thing about her being male only?
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Post by Fredward on Mar 20, 2017 17:24:31 GMT
I wouldn't blame Tom for this, he probably only knows that he recorded some lines, he wouldn't know if they were cut.
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Post by lyriumghost on Mar 20, 2017 17:24:46 GMT
It felt like this was coming... I thought I was just being cynical yesterday when I thought Ian's post in the Gil thread was preemptive damage control. 
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Post by brendanrouth on Mar 20, 2017 17:24:49 GMT
So who are the best devs to tweet? None of them because they're all fucking cowards. Tweet the VAs if you want a response.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 20, 2017 17:24:52 GMT
Yeah I just spent 80 dollars to be rejected. Fun times. Is it too late for you to refund?
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Post by zaefkol on Mar 20, 2017 17:25:04 GMT
Cora: Scott only, exclusive romance Pee Bee: Scott and Sara, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Vetra: Scot and Sara, exclusive romance Liam: Sara only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Jaal: Sara only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Gil: Scott only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Suvi: Sara only, exclusive romance Avela: [nothing is listed for who she is available for or if it's exclusive or not, but she's listed as a romance] Reyes: Scott and Sara, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Keri: [nothing is listed for who she is available for or if it's exclusive or not, but she's listed as a romance] If this holds up, then this is complete bullshit.
For m/m players, we have: -Only two options -No one on the squad -Only one person on the ship -Gil is fade to black -Reyes is most likely also fade to black
While other orientations get: -Multiple squad options -Some options with romance scenes that have actual nudity on top of grinding/thrusting
Yay equality.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 17:25:09 GMT
I've been following this thread for quite some time, saw all the happiness and sadness when informations started to pop up and I must say that I completly don't get this marketing. This is ridiculous, MEA is a mess, not only with romances which are a huge part of BioWare games. I thought that DAI had poor romance choices (I finally end up with Dorian), but MEA seems even worse. If Jaal is bi and Vetra straight (or vice versa), I'll be dissapointed. For now the only character I'm interested in is Reyes, and If I'm right he's just a fling and breaks up with you? Or am I wrong? That's just sad.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 20, 2017 17:25:09 GMT
Alright. Well then.
I do have a personal message to the Bioware team.
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Post by dhalion on Mar 20, 2017 17:25:13 GMT
I would cancel my preorder but the disc is in the mail. Maybe I'll just smash it to a million pieces and mail it to BioWare. Mine's in the mail too, and that shit's going right back in the mail the second it gets here.
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Post by Steelcan on Mar 20, 2017 17:25:15 GMT
I'm going to be shit posting a bit, because of course I will
but I do feel sorry for all those who wanted a m/m squadmate
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Mar 20, 2017 17:25:18 GMT
Man, I can't believe it. I actually told everyone that I had such a good feeling about him being bi and now I feel like such an asshole. I honestly wasn't expecting this. 
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Post by conanzms on Mar 20, 2017 17:25:27 GMT
Yeah I just spent 80 dollars to be rejected. Fun times. Go refund it, EA's "Great Game (oh the irony) Guarantee" is available for MEA, that means you can receive full refund before release.
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Post by Tekehu's booty on Mar 20, 2017 17:25:36 GMT
This is SO INSULTING, we are not worthy for them guys.
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Post by DalyaTheTurtle on Mar 20, 2017 17:26:01 GMT
Jeez Bioware just fucked everything up this time around didn't they. I would say wait for DA4, but screw that you guys deserved better than the shit they're pulling here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 17:26:08 GMT
So much queerbaiting for Jaal.
A bunch of code saying Jaal is bi.
Several reviewers saying Jaal is bi.
Prima Guide saying Jaal is straight.
Like I am 100% certain Jaal is straight... but we have been strung along and fucking lied to.
I can honestly take Jaal being straight. I'd be salty, sure, cause this is a massive step back for BioWare. But for all the teasing and false hope... that is just out of order.
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Post by justiceway on Mar 20, 2017 17:26:16 GMT
I'm going to be shit posting a bit, because of course I will but I do feel sorry for all those who wanted a m/m squadmate Bioware took a huge step back lmao
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Post by Lady Artifice on Mar 20, 2017 17:26:31 GMT
Oh, it's going to backfire. I'm just worried about this thread devolving into straight versus gay again, and the effect of that on Cyonan's health.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 20, 2017 17:26:36 GMT
I'm taking this as pretty hard confirmation that Jaal is hetero. I would advise against stringing out any more hopes he's bi and just either trying to get into another character, or don't buy the game/wait until it's cheap, unless you get pleasantly surprised with news otherwise. Not worth putting yourself through stress for hours and hours more with no certainty when we'll get any other form of confirmation. It's probably over. There's being optimistic and there's the high likeliness of denial.
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Post by amoebae † on Mar 20, 2017 17:26:56 GMT
I think it's because asari, certainly in the original trilogy, were clearly developed with straight men in mind. They provided lesbian representation almost as a side-effect. That's not to diminish the joy lesbians and bi women get from having a woman to romance - not at all. Nor is it to suggest that women shouldn't find those scenes enjoyable. But rather, it's to put their development into context. And I don't blame anyone for their saltiness when we have Mac (I think) saying stuff like, "but who'd want to push her off huehuehue" - perpetuating the idea that bisexual asari are titillating for men. It wasn't a lesbian or bi female dev saying that. So, it's not about f/f content being a problem, but rather m/m content not being treated the same being the problem. I don't think any of us can envisage a situation where an all-male species of hot exotic space dudes would have been created in the place of the asari. That's the problem. Not that there is f/f content. But that there is an imbalance. That there's not enough m/m content, I'll accept. But I'll certainly never accept that there's too much f/f content. And no one has said that. No one wants to take away f/f options. No one has argued for that. The argument is that there should be equality for everyone. Everyone. It's about raising the standard, not dropping one that is already there.
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Post by Artemis on Mar 20, 2017 17:27:03 GMT
So who are the best devs to tweet? None of them because they're all fucking cowards. Tweet the VAs if you want a response. Oh, they ignore my tweets as much as they like, but they'll still see them. I'm just not sure who the writer developers are to contact.
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Post by justiceway on Mar 20, 2017 17:27:24 GMT
So much queerbaiting for Jaal. A bunch of code saying Jaal is bi. Several reviewers saying Jaal is bi. Prima Guide saying Jaal is straight. Like I am 100% certain Jaal is straight... but we have been strung along and fucking lied to. I can honestly take Jaal being straight. I'd be salty, sure, cause this is a massive step back for BioWare. But for all the teasing and false hope... that is just out of order. There wasnt gaybaiting because bioware never said anything about jaal, and you cant get mad at them based on code. More than anything its (why does the code say this and game not say this)
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Post by hellionrex on Mar 20, 2017 17:27:34 GMT
So who are the best devs to tweet? None of them because they're all fucking cowards. Tweet the VAs if you want a response. They can't do a damn thing about it. And fuck off. Some of those devs are very nice people.
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