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Post by QuizzyBunny on Oct 1, 2017 9:59:10 GMT
I don't think people will ever stop complaining about Mercy, even if they took away her rez. Before it was "unfun" when a team wipe was negated (I always found that funny, 'cause if the Mercy is still alive it was hardly a team wipe) and now it is "unfun" to see your enemies randomly come to life. I think I even predicted this reaction here in this thread somewhere? I keep seeing so many misinformed claims about both New Mercy and Old Mercy, and I think that is what makes people think she is so easy. Here are some that I've heard:
- Old Mercy was invincible when she flew in to rez (not just when she rezzed... apparently the game was smart enough to know when she intended to rez). - Old Mercy negated team wipes all the time, and doing a x5 rez is easy (I'm a Mercy main, I've only ever done x5-rezzes three times, so hardly that common). - Old Mercy and New Mercy requires no skill (I'm not going to claim that she requires a lot of mechanical skill, but she does require a lot of game sense, positioning, knowing prioritization, risk evaluation, team awareness etc. Also, moving around with Mercy isn't as easy as some seem to think, and I can always tell if they are new Mercy players by whether or not they have GA flies to beam target on). - Old and New Mercy only has a 1 second cooldown on GA (it's actually 1,5 seconds, which can seem to be basically the same but is still 50% more than claimed). - When Old and New Mercy rezzes it resets the target's cooldown (it does not). - New Mercy is invulnerable when she rezzes (she isn't, and that's also her weakest moment) - New Mercy can battle-angel and kill everyone during her ult with her increased damage (nope, they took the damage increase away on the ptr, and as far as I'm concerned they can take the unlimited ammo too if they so wish). - New Mercy can rez 5 people during her ult (this is impossible; the best you can do is rez-ult-rez-rez 10 seconds later-rez 10 seconds later-ult ends, amounting to a total of 4 spread out rezzes. If these four died at the same time Mercy would only be able to rez two of them). - New Mercy's rez resets upon death (it does not). - New Mercy's ult is equal to Orisa's and Zenyatta's ults in one (except for the fact that Supercharger gives a 50% damage increase in a 25 meter radius while Mercy gives a 30% damage increase in a 10 meter radius that requires LoS, and Transcendence makes Zen invulnerable while he heals 300 hp/second for 6 seconds while Mercy is given increased health regernation and heals 60 hp/second at most 20 seconds). - It's unfair that I have to use my Tac-visor or Deadeye to negate Mercy's ult (for starters, why is it strange to use a dps-ult to counter a support ult when the opposite is used all the time? Not every ult needs to have multiple kills and be PotG to have a huge impact).
People need to realize that what used to be Mercy's strength is now her weakness and vice versa - annoyed by the pesky single revives? Throw your ults at her and her team, she won't be able to rezz everyone and is likely to die herself trying. Teamwork is, and has always been, her best counter, but a lot of people would prefer if that wasn't such an important part of this game.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 1, 2017 15:57:53 GMT
A lot of YouTube streamers never understood Mercy or even the game in general. This isn't Call of Duty or Halo, this is a team based game where target priortizarion is critical.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Oct 2, 2017 21:55:30 GMT
Sweet memories...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 2, 2017 21:57:41 GMT
I've never seen that before.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 3, 2017 19:09:30 GMT
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 3, 2017 23:20:37 GMT
*crosses fingers for Halloween Legendary skins for my favorite heroes*
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Post by smilesja on Oct 3, 2017 23:22:04 GMT
*crosses fingers for Halloween Legendary skins for my favorite heroes* Mcree and Reaper not to your liking?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 3, 2017 23:27:19 GMT
*crosses fingers for Halloween Legendary skins for my favorite heroes* Mcree and Reaper not to your liking? McCree is okay, and I do think he deserves a skin since he is one of the four heroes in Junkenstein Revenge yet was the only one not to get a Halloween skin last year. Reaper I like though he already did get a skin but I understand him getting 2 Legendary skins since this is the best event for him on that front. However I don't use McCree much and Reaper's Headless Horseman skin wins out over this new Dracula skin. I'm just really hoping for skins for my favorite characters like D.Va and Mei.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 3, 2017 23:30:31 GMT
I'm probably not participating in this event I'm pretty busy.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Oct 4, 2017 11:45:50 GMT
If D.VA doesn't get a monster skin for her mech I will be sorely disappointed!
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Post by Draining Dragon on Oct 4, 2017 15:07:21 GMT
I hope the new event mode (which presumably will be co op like last year) gives us a more varied selection of heroes this time.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 4, 2017 17:32:45 GMT
I hope so too. I think they will, since they did that with Uprising where there were the two modes: one with the set heroes and one where you can play as anybody.
Plus maybe as well as Junkenstein's Revenge they may have another new event too, like maybe this time to are attacking the castle to get to and stop Count Reapula.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 4, 2017 18:30:22 GMT
If D.VA doesn't get a monster skin for her mech I will be sorely disappointed! I think a great idea for D.Va would be if her mech became like a giant Lack O' Lantern and her human self became like a candle or a fire sprite.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Oct 4, 2017 22:14:46 GMT
And now they've nerfed Mercy on the ptr... why am I not surprised. Why don't they just take rez away completely if it bothers people so much.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 4, 2017 22:17:05 GMT
And now they've nerfed Mercy on the ptr... why am I not surprised. Why don't they just take rez away completely if it bothers people so much. DPS mains are the whiniest bunch. What’s part of her is nerfed.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Oct 4, 2017 22:20:31 GMT
And now they've nerfed Mercy on the ptr... why am I not surprised. Why don't they just take rez away completely if it bothers people so much. DPS mains are the whiniest bunch. What’s part of her is nerfed. Only one rez every 30 second, no reset on ult, no lowered cooldown when ulting... so why even play her in comp now? Her ult can't help her team survive any ult except Primal Rage, her damage boost is considerably less than Orisa's... and with only one potential rez. They might as well remove rez and give her a real ult.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 4, 2017 22:24:44 GMT
DPS mains are the whiniest bunch. What’s part of her is nerfed. Only one rez every 30 second, no reset on ult, no lowered cooldown when ulting... so why even play her in comp now? Her ult can't help her team survive any ult except Primal Rage, her damage boost is considerably less than Orisa's... and with only one potential rez. They might as well remove rez and give her a real ult. Sesssh that may make her unplayable.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Oct 4, 2017 22:29:01 GMT
Only one rez every 30 second, no reset on ult, no lowered cooldown when ulting... so why even play her in comp now? Her ult can't help her team survive any ult except Primal Rage, her damage boost is considerably less than Orisa's... and with only one potential rez. They might as well remove rez and give her a real ult. Sesssh that may make her unplayable. I can't say for sure that this is true yet, but I've seen a couple of posts about it on Blizzard's forum. I don't understand, if they hate temporezzes they can just give her the old ult back, or make it so she can only rez during her ult but she has 4 stacks of it. If this ptr is true it seems like they want to get rid of rez but are afraid of the backlash from fans, so they are slowly doing away with it in small steps...
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Post by smilesja on Oct 4, 2017 22:31:42 GMT
Sesssh that may make her unplayable. I can't say for sure that this is true yet, but I've seen a couple of posts about it on Blizzard's forum. I don't understand, if they hate temporezzes they can just give her the old ult back, or make it so she can only rez during her ult but she has 4 stacks of it. If this ptr is true it seems like they want to get rid of rez but are afraid of the backlash from fans, so they are slowly doing away with it in small steps... You’re just making them angrier. Just keep for now and asess.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 4, 2017 22:31:49 GMT
How about they nerf the characters that actually need to be nerfed rather than further ruining characters who don't? Nah, that's a crazy thought.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Oct 4, 2017 22:38:34 GMT
I think I'm seriously done now. I was really upset about the rework, but decided to try and see the positive things with the change... only to get this two weeks later. What happened to "letting things settle"? If they are upset about her pick-rate, try giving us another main healer and buff Ana before you pull out the nerf-hammer.
I'm just... so done.
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Post by Kevlareater on Oct 4, 2017 22:59:32 GMT
This was definitely a knee-jerk nerf, and I say this as someone that hates Mercy and decided to drop her. To add injury to insult, they also "fixed" her momentum "bug" so she can't exactly zoom around anymore. This is from reading the forums.
Ain't that some shit.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Oct 4, 2017 23:41:18 GMT
I just realized, they would have to change her achievement again, unless of course they think it reasonable that Mercy stays alive for 3 minutes without dying...
Damn it, just revert her, give her an E with a 12 seconds cooldown that grants her flight for 5 seconds, and make her ult LoS instead. Then she can't rez when "hiding".
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Post by smilesja on Oct 4, 2017 23:45:23 GMT
The community really needs to stop whining and get good. Otherwise, Overwatch will remain unbalanced and awkward.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Oct 4, 2017 23:55:28 GMT
The community really needs to stop whining and get good. Otherwise, Overwatch will remain unbalanced and awkward. It won't happen. I started playing Overwatch, despite not being too fond of fps-games, because I liked how all characters were special and that mechanical aim wasn't a requirement to contribute to the team. Now it feels like they are catering to the streamers and the "general" fps-player; they want fast and flashy fights with team wipes. Where do supports really fit in here? Since the Mercy rework I've had one PotG, and it's not because I've done bad ults, but because the game values kills more than support. I can't even tank anymore because the new D.VA is more a offense character than defense nowadays, what does she even tank? Genji's deflect is better at countering damage than her DM. I've really loved this game, but I have a feeling that if this is the direction they want to go then I will probably want to go.
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