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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jul 16, 2019 11:53:23 GMT
I'm waiting for the complete set of the witcher books (eight in all) which will only be available on the 28th. I decided to order because I want to know more about Yen than what I could gather in W3 itself. Due to the problem I know nothing about Triss and Yen, I went on a search when I was playing the game in order to make that LI choice.
The most I gathered was she was born a hunchback, she suffered abuse and abandonment. I attribute the distrust, sometimes cold and inconsiderate attitude I saw in the game to what she experienced as a child and imagined what it would be like growing up given her circumstances. I also saw her devotion, loyalty, thoughtfulness, the little flashes of herself that she would sometimes show. She's a complicated character, I felt. Suited to Geralt.
Found this video and thought it a good intro. definitely looking forward to reading the books myself.
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Post by flyingsquirrel on Jul 16, 2019 20:44:02 GMT
In my opinion, Witcher 3 is the most advanced rpg nowadays, even though it was released 4 years ago. It would be my absolute dream if there was a Witcher 3 game, but in DA universe and setting. Damn this game is good. The Witcher and the Dragon Age games do form some interesting points of contrast. The universe of The Witcher seems to be a little more of a crapsack world (to borrow a TV Tropes term) than the universe of Dragon Age. Even when all hell breaks loose in Kirkwall at the end of DA2 or the mages rebel in DAI, there's less of a sense of danger and of people just barely managing to survive compared to the poverty and the outbreaks of violence (both in terms of warfare and the racial pogroms) in the TW games. Maybe that's partly just because of who Geralt is as a character, in that he doesn't have much political clout compared to the DA protagonists and thus tends to have more of a ground-level view of what's happening. But I also wonder if perhaps the two series' human civilizations, at least, are in slightly different stages of development. When Foltest shows up at the end of TW1 with a distinctly modest-looking crown and armor set, I can't help but think that perhaps he's more akin to a tribal chieftain than to the type of ruler we see in Ferelden and Orlais. And somehow, even the rathole prisons that the Warden ends up witnessing during the events leeding up to the Landsmeet seem partly attributable to Rendon Howe being exceptionally tyrannical, whereas I'd be somewhat surprised to run across a Witcherverse authority figure whose enforcers *don't* administer some sort of torture chamber. (Though maybe TW2 is just giving us a closer look at the prison by having the player-character spend more time there.) Maybe the Witcherverse is closer to our own "Dark Ages," while Dragon Age is more akin to the later medieval or early Renaissance period?
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Post by davesin on Jul 18, 2019 15:46:21 GMT
The Witcher and the Dragon Age games do form some interesting points of contrast. The universe of The Witcher seems to be a little more of a crapsack world (to borrow a TV Tropes term) than the universe of Dragon Age. Even when all hell breaks loose in Kirkwall at the end of DA2 or the mages rebel in DAI, there's less of a sense of danger and of people just barely managing to survive compared to the poverty and the outbreaks of violence (both in terms of warfare and the racial pogroms) in the TW games. Maybe that's partly just because of who Geralt is as a character, in that he doesn't have much political clout compared to the DA protagonists and thus tends to have more of a ground-level view of what's happening. But I also wonder if perhaps the two series' human civilizations, at least, are in slightly different stages of development. When Foltest shows up at the end of TW1 with a distinctly modest-looking crown and armor set, I can't help but think that perhaps he's more akin to a tribal chieftain than to the type of ruler we see in Ferelden and Orlais. And somehow, even the rathole prisons that the Warden ends up witnessing during the events leeding up to the Landsmeet seem partly attributable to Rendon Howe being exceptionally tyrannical, whereas I'd be somewhat surprised to run across a Witcherverse authority figure whose enforcers *don't* administer some sort of torture chamber. (Though maybe TW2 is just giving us a closer look at the prison by having the player-character spend more time there.) Maybe the Witcherverse is closer to our own "Dark Ages," while Dragon Age is more akin to the later medieval or early Renaissance period? To add up, DA is a setting far more touched by magic, even in technological advance. Plus, mages are born. In The Witcher, it's a skilled almost anyone can learn, but only with proper teacher and training, otherwise it might end up with wanna-be-mage getting insane. Killing of mages and almost eradicating all magic is actually possible in TW setting. On the other hand, TW's average mage has probably more political power than DA's average mage. TW also focuses more on non-combat magic (which is something we usually just read about in DA codex or books). The closest thing to Orlais would be Nilfgaard. Both are supposed to be advance, almost renaissance-like. Northern Kingdoms are little smaller and less spectacular Free Marches and Ferelden. Race relations are similar in both setting (but those are really standard way to portray human x non-human relations in fantasy): Humans are uncultured, slow to learn and yet they conquered the world; dwarves in both setting have some sort of conservative homeland (Orzammar and Mahakam), with many of their people working as mercenaries and craftsmen outside of it; and finally, whether in DA or TW, freedom/their-way-of-life fighting elves from both Scoia'tael and Dalish sucks at execution.
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Post by wright1978 on Jul 22, 2019 11:44:45 GMT
Finally got round to playing the last expansion(Blood & Wine). It was fantastic with some excellent callbacks to the source material. Still got lots of side misisons i haven't even touched even after sinking hours in. Some nice touches in terms of customisation and reflection of my Geralt's Triss relationship. Hoping that Cyberpunk gets as good an expansion
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Post by wright1978 on Jul 26, 2019 19:20:00 GMT
I love the dark seriousness of the Witcher series but those moments of ridiculous fun are amazingly done too. I had an absolute blast experiencing stoned Geralt and enhanced roach in equine dreams during blood and wine.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jul 26, 2019 19:58:47 GMT
I love the dark seriousness of the Witcher series but those moments of ridiculous fun are amazingly done too. I had an absolute blast experiencing stoned Geralt and enhanced roach in equine dreams during blood and wine. I think they work particularly well also because they are juxtaposed with all the grimdark that is going on otherwise.
I liked the "Geralt gets drunk with his friends" scenes in all the Witcher games but 3 really knocked it out of the park, with the ridiculous hat, the goat and the "phone prank". Brilliant stuff.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Jul 26, 2019 22:16:14 GMT
Should have used female VO for Roach.
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Post by Noxluxe on Jul 27, 2019 0:15:13 GMT
Does anyone know if Ciri dying means you can't go to Kovir with Triss? I just started the series over from scratch and am really feeling like a bittersweet ending. On that note, the "bad" ending to Blood and Wine is easily my favorite. Anna Henrietta really is too reckless and idealistic to live, and both Syanna and Dettlaff committed unforgivable crimes. Demanding that Regis help me put his rabid friend down and then watching Syanna kill her ridiculously optimistic sister out of spite and immediately getting executed for it was the perfect capper for me. Seeing the delusional inhabitants of Toussaint forced to deal with the death of their beloved Empress before returning to my newly renovated vineyard with the intention of selling it and heading back north with my lady love was just icing on the cake. Perfect ending.
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Post by Babar Guy on Jul 28, 2019 11:27:45 GMT
Does anyone know if Ciri dying means you can't go to Kovir with Triss? I just started the series over from scratch and am really feeling like a bittersweet ending. On that note, the "bad" ending to Blood and Wine is easily my favorite. Anna Henrietta really is too reckless and idealistic to live, and both Syanna and Dettlaff committed unforgivable crimes. Demanding that Regis help me put his rabid friend down and then watching Syanna kill her ridiculously optimistic sister out of spite and immediately getting executed for it was the perfect capper for me. Seeing the delusional inhabitants of Toussaint forced to deal with the death of their beloved Empress before returning to my newly renovated vineyard with the intention of selling it and heading back north with my lady love was just icing on the cake. Perfect ending. If Ciri dies, Geralt is implied to commit suicide by Crone.
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Post by Noxluxe on Jul 28, 2019 13:07:49 GMT
If Ciri dies, Geralt is implied to commit suicide by Crone. ...Or take his grief out on an army of drowners and ghouls, yup. But does anyone know what actually happens? Are you barred from the post-game? And if not, will the sorceress you romanced, assuming you did one, still come to Corvo Bianco? More importantly, is it indicated that she managed to break the White Frost before her death? Is the world's doom by ice age still in the cards?
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Post by slimgrin727 on Jul 28, 2019 15:22:32 GMT
If Ciri dies, Geralt is implied to commit suicide by Crone. ...Or take his grief out on an army of drowners and ghouls, yup. But does anyone know what actually happens? Are you barred from the post-game? And if not, will the sorceress you romanced, assuming you did one, still come to Corvo Bianco? More importantly, is it indicated that she managed to break the White Frost before her death? Is the world's doom by ice age still in the cards? I hate that ending. It makes zero sense given Geralt's character. Being vague about it was a shit decision by the devs, but technically he lives through it since B&W is indeed the real ending by any measure. At least that's my take. Because the same people will come to visit you in Toussaint no matter what ending you get in the base game. Ciri stops the white frost either way. Whether she lives depends on how much you support her independence as daddy Geralt.
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Post by Noxluxe on Jul 28, 2019 17:33:16 GMT
...Or take his grief out on an army of drowners and ghouls, yup. But does anyone know what actually happens? Are you barred from the post-game? And if not, will the sorceress you romanced, assuming you did one, still come to Corvo Bianco? More importantly, is it indicated that she managed to break the White Frost before her death? Is the world's doom by ice age still in the cards? I hate that ending. It makes zero sense given Geralt's character. Being vague about it was a shit decision by the devs, but technically he lives through it since B&W is indeed the real ending by any measure. At least that's my take. Because the same people will come to visit you in Toussaint no matter what ending you get in the base game. Ciri stops the white frost either way. Whether she lives depends on how much you support her independence as daddy Geralt. I don't know. Him actually killing himself wouldn't be in character. Ciri dies heroically saving the world from destruction, just like he would have in her shoes, and she wouldn't have thrown her life away over losing him. In my mind he just spends that epilogue working through the 'anger' stage of grief, looking for some small closure in the form of her medallion, and the Crone picks up on him being at his limit because, well, he is. And the monsters flocking to meet his sword are just manifested by pain and misery, like they've always been. If he then spends Hearts of Stone trying to get past it, getting back in the game and being shown how to live a little and how much he still has to live for by a ghost and a man who never stopped running from his mistakes, and then spends Blood and Wine reconnecting with friends, recuperating and working himself up to start over with Triss or Yennefer... I could get behind that narrative. Or maybe I'll just go for the Empress ending and get my bittersweet kick from Blood and Wine.
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Post by dazk on Aug 1, 2019 22:31:22 GMT
Saw this today and thought I'd post it, not sure how old it is and if it has been posted before I apologise.
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Post by dazk on Aug 14, 2019 6:23:26 GMT
Watched a YouTube video called "Things you may have missed re Triss". One is that she appeared in Polish Playboy!!!!!!! Warning animated nudity: s215.photobucket.com/user/RageGT/slideshow/The%20Witcher%20-%20TrissThis is the translation from polish, apparently: Ok - here's translation, far from perfect probably, but hopefully good enough to enjoy the reading: Playboy: Milions of people around the world read about you and other millions watch your computer incarnation. Wasn't Playboy session just a chance to impress your colleagues - sorcerreses? Triss: Don't suspect me to have such a low motives. I admit that sorceresses put a lot of energy - also magical - to piss off each others. That's what for all these dresses, jewels, smelling concoction and philandering are. But I'm above that. P: Forgive suspicion but you have never wear such deep necklines, because after one of the battles you had a scar on breast. Now you're doing session like that. How is that possible? Magic? T: You're acting like a child. There are methods that women are using in order to look good, but it's only our business. P: Where the idea for session came from? T: I've seen pictures of many beautiful women in Playboy but you never had a sorceress posing for you. I wanted to be the first. P: You were not first for Geralt. T: Ooo rat tongue! One more word like that, and a wart big as a toad will grow on your mouth! P: No offence, but everyone who is familiar with witcher, knows that he has a liking for sorceresses. Aren't you afraid that you will be just another one on his list? T: I'm not worried about that, as long as I have him. Geralt doesn't remember his former relationships and I can make sure that he will be thinking, first of all, about me P: Tell us - does witcher's eyes change shape in bedroom, like they do during the fight? T: I really can make your vitals turn like a pig tail, with one spell. So don't go over the line. P: But people really would like to know in what Geralt is better than mere mortals when it comes to the bedroom matters. T: All I can tell you is that he's excellent not only in using his sword. You need to satisfy with that answer! P: You know much more about him than he knows about you. What's more you hide a lot from him. We don't want to say that you're cynical but, for sure, a lot of things changed since you were a young sorceress. T: So you really want to have a pig tail in front? P: C'mon...So tell something about session. You were stripped by seven artists. Wasn't that uncomfortable? T: Not at all. They're my virtual...fathers. So I don't have secrets from them. P: What do you mean virtual? Aren't you the one who's virtual? T: From my point of view my world is the real one, and yours is an illusion. But I'm glad that both words interpenetrate. P: In the end I wanted to ask you about the game. In witcher 2 players can decide whether you will be Geralt's woman or not. Why should they invest in your relationship? T: For Geralt's good and his pleasure (laugh). But for these who don't want to wait with this decision until game premiere, I decided to convince them right now. In Playboy.
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Post by Noxluxe on Aug 21, 2019 7:21:49 GMT
Just started the game. Love being tough on Ciri. In the books, spoiling her and letting her skip out on lessons wasn't part of the witcher training schedule. At least, not until Triss arrived at Kaer Morhen and injected the whole situation with some estrogen, forcing them to recognize her occasionally being "indisposed". The game's beginning isn't the most fast-paced or exciting thing in the world, but beating her in a race with my superior dad legs and trying to instill her with a bit of respect for her elders gives me a toothache, it's so sweet. Vesemir is great too, even though his mustache really needs a pick-me-up. Intergenerational buddy road trips are the best. I decided that him getting his shoulder ripped open during the first pass of a griffon is the first time Geralt has seen him as anything other than his wise old mentor. Like the first time you look at a parent and really notice the wrinkles and pallor and gray hairs. A man or woman starting to fall apart at the seams, instead of just "mom" or "dad". That's an uncomfortable realization, that people you've always thought of as constants in the world are mortal and actually on their way out. And it makes Geralt treating him rather gingerly for the rest of the White Orchard chapter pretty adorable.
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Post by melbella on Aug 22, 2019 2:43:04 GMT
Did you skip W2 or zoom through it? I've only made it to chapter 4 in W1 - it's taking me sooooo long to get anywhere. I need more play time, dammit!
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Post by Noxluxe on Aug 22, 2019 8:28:21 GMT
Did you skip W2 or zoom through it? I've only made it to chapter 4 in W1 - it's taking me sooooo long to get anywhere. I need more play time, dammit! Hehe, realized that I might actually be racing the clock before Greedfall comes out in September, and I conceivably lose interest in the series playthrough. So I played like a machine after work for a few days and got through it without compromising my completionist tendencies. Which isn't hard to do. TW2 is the shortest and most streamlined game by far, and knowing Flotsam and Vergen almost by heart you can get through the densest chapters in the story very efficiently. The Kaedweni camp might have been another matter. Not that it wasn't also engaging. TW2's Dark difficulty is the best approach to difficulty in any RPG game to my mind. Making Geralt easier to kill instead of making enemies damage sponges that take forever to cut down. Playing on Dark you feel both perfectly dangerous and vulnerable to danger, which is pretty much what people actually are. Finished White Orchard yesterday. Can't wait to get out of the starting armor and into something more Geralt-y. I've never been able to stand it for some reason. It just looks so weird and bulgy and top-heavy, like he should be about to fall over any time he changes his stance. And the chainmail countersunk into the leather around his midriff makes it looks like his entire torso is about to pop under the chestpiece, also making him look like a burly strongman instead of the sleek killing machine witchers are supposed to be. Some truly strange decision-making went into that armor and the choice to have him wear it in all the promotional material. I can sort of see the big shoulder chain pads being useful against drowners and ghouls pouncing on him, or griffons trying to claw at him from above, preventing them from getting a grip on his upper body and wrestling him off his feet. But it looks so weird and disproportional that I just want it off. I've also seen enough of his ponytail in 2. Am making a beeline for Velen's barber to get the 'loose, not too long', hairstyle. Always liked how that looked with the full beard. Not so much with a freshly shaven Geralt. Too boy band-y. And it makes him look more like Eskel, which is nice after Triss' mental commentary that the two look like brothers in the books.
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Post by dazk on Aug 22, 2019 21:39:45 GMT
Did you skip W2 or zoom through it? I've only made it to chapter 4 in W1 - it's taking me sooooo long to get anywhere. I need more play time, dammit! The Kaedweni camp might have been another matter. "Odrin, Odrin, Odrin, Odrin"
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Post by Noxluxe on Aug 23, 2019 5:49:05 GMT
I like what they did with Keira Metz. Another character who didn't really stand out in the books.
Meeting up with her in Velen she actually seems to be doing a great job as a countryside wise woman, and sexual manipulations aside she and Geralt greet and treat each other like adults with common interests and goals, a fair bit of mutual respect and trust and a more or less positive acquaintance that they both expect to be able to rely on.
Again her soapy tits aside, their first conversation about Ciri and what Keira is doing in Velen is one of the nicer and more mature and pleasant chats Geralt has with any female character in any of the games, with none of the heavy romantic and/or passive-aggressive subtext he shares with every other sorceress.
She's exactly cowardly and spoiled and selfish enough that there's no way she could ever compete with Triss or Yennefer for his attention, while still being helpful and warm and sympathetic enough for Radovid's witch hunters bearing down on her to seem monstrous and unfair, and for Geralt to realistically consider her something like a friend. If not a very close one.
Still, this is the first playthrough where I'm intending for Geralt to trust her enough to offer her refuge at Kaer Morhen. Mostly for the platinum trophy. The late-game scene of him and Triss cutting her body down from a stake was sad and beautiful enough to outweigh her convenient romance with Lambert if she had survived, to me. Her survival just so happens to be a condition for the last trophy I need.
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Post by melbella on Aug 23, 2019 11:36:13 GMT
The late-game scene of him and Triss cutting her body down from a stake was sad and beautiful enough to outweigh her convenient romance with Lambert if she had survived, to me. Is this what happens if you let her go to do her thing with the cure? No big surprise, I guess, given Geralt warns her this is exactly what will happen. I managed to kill her myself in my first PT.
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Post by Noxluxe on Aug 23, 2019 12:11:11 GMT
The late-game scene of him and Triss cutting her body down from a stake was sad and beautiful enough to outweigh her convenient romance with Lambert if she had survived, to me. Is this what happens if you let her go to do her thing with the cure? No big surprise, I guess, given Geralt warns her this is exactly what will happen. I managed to kill her myself in my first PT. If you let her do her thing with the recipe for a biological weapon, you mean. And yup. Evidently Radovid didn't care one whit for all her offers. Which is really to his credit, in my mind. To me, Geralt can kill in self-defense without too much inner turmoil, at least threaten to kill people who cheat him on principle, kill people who are actively tormenting others for their own amusement, and kill people who threaten his friends and loved ones without mercy or hesitation. But he draws the line at killing people he knows and understands simply because he doesn't agree with what they're doing, even if it might affect a lot of innocents down the line. Berengar's affronts were ambigious and impersonal enough that killing him wouldn't have felt justified. Adda's weren't. Silé and Letho may have deserved to die, but for reasons that weren't his to judge anymore, so he let them run off to find their own punishments. Cynthia was another matter - Triss told him how painful and terrifying that compression spell was and how she was sold to the Nilfgaardians, and that could not be allowed to go unanswered. In my past playthroughs he's told Keira how disappointed he is in her and how pathetic he finds her outrage over having to live like a normal human being instead of a princess, and withheld the route to Kaer Morhen because she'd proven herself too untrustworthy, and Vesemir depends on him not to spread it around to people who might exploit it. And then he's let her go and do whatever she thought best, knowing that even if she survived she would probably never be able to live with herself, and that was her own business. Sometimes heads just roll, but it's still much easier to regret having drawn your sword than not. The world shouldn't need Geralt of Rivia to slice and stab all its problems away.
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Post by Treacherous J Slither on Sept 2, 2019 2:29:15 GMT
I wish that the magic available to mages was more defined. Kiera feeling trapped in the boonies doesn't make sense to me. Neither does Yennefer working for Emir out of fear or Triss running from the witch hunters. These women can teleport anywhere and control minds and shapeshift and nuke anyone and anything and put up impenetrable force fields to protect themselves. How are they not ruling the world? How is some normal human king a threat to any of them? Let alone the witch hunters.
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Post by Noxluxe on Sept 2, 2019 12:14:54 GMT
I wish that the magic available to mages was more defined. Kiera feeling trapped in the boonies doesn't make sense to me. Neither does Yennefer working for Emir out of fear or Triss running from the witch hunters. These women can teleport anywhere and control minds and shapeshift and nuke anyone and anything and put up impenetrable force fields to protect themselves. How are they not ruling the world? How is some normal human king a threat to any of them? Let alone the witch hunters. While the most powerful sorceresses can do all of those things, enough limitations are implied for me not to see them as quite that powerful. They always seem to be drained of energy after one big spell, teleportation is prone enough to catastrophic error that relying on it for daily use is suicide, and even successfully teleporting hundreds of miles just leaves you dead on your feet in a place you have no connections to, surrounded by strangers who have no reason to do anything except rob, rape and kill you. Being able to throw fireballs doesn't change the fact that you need real food and a roof over your head to survive for very long, just like the dozen of much less powerful mage acolytes who are looking to you for safety, in Triss' case. Neither of those are free, and money isn't easy to come by when you're wanted. She doesn't seem to be isn't sticking around in Novigrad for her own sake. And a big determined brute kicking your door down in the middle of the night with a cleaver to gut you while you're still getting your bearings will kill you as surely as anyone. That, and those six or seven high-caliber sorceresses we meet in the series - by far the best on the continent - whose magical feats you're referencing have all spent from fifty to over a hundred years trying to cultivate the Northern Kingdoms into their own domains. All their resources and friends and allies and pet projects are there. Abandoning all that work just because Radovid is having a temper tantrum must be hard on the old sorceress pride. The world is full of people kicking around in dangerous environments because leaving for a completely foreign place with just the clothes on your back is an even more terrifying prospect. And I don't think Yennefer works for Emhyr out of fear. She's pretty clearly using his spy network to find Ciri because she wants to find Ciri, not because he does. Personally, I go both ways on magic systems. A "hard" one with clear and discernible logic is cool, and can make for some very interesting settings where lots of people exploit those mechanics. But a more open-ended system of seemingly inconsistent spells and rituals that follow weird rules only the initiated understand and which are both wondrous in their power and at the same time weirdly restricted in their applications is a lot closer to the old fairy tale depictions of magic, which fits the Witcher series well. And frankly, that's pretty akin to how advanced technology would look to the uninitiated. If some poor bloke from the thirteenth century was looking at you sitting on the toilet after having turned on a small sun in the bathroom with the flick of a switch, I'm pretty sure he'd be going "I wish these strange wizards' powers were better defined! In some ways they can do seemingly whatever they want, and in others they seem no more powerful than I am! And how in the world can governments pretend to control them? It makes no sense!"
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Post by Treacherous J Slither on Sept 2, 2019 13:35:58 GMT
Nah.
In game Triss, Yennefer, and Kiera teleport like it's nothing. There was even a scene where Yen teleport threw Geralt into a lake with a wave of her hand just because he said something she didn't like. I have seen no examples of the difficulties of teleportation that you speak of.
Magic in this game seems only as powerful as the plot demands.
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