Confirmed: Andromeda is socialist commentary about current world-events

This would have been fairly costly, as far as I can see. Maybe a good way to spend zots, but expensive. (We also have to get around the problem of a Cerberus crew going to the Citadel now that we're not handwaving the issue anymore; Joker'd obey the order, but wouldn't EDI tell Miranda?)



I asked this before, but what exactly are you actually asking for here? What should the Inquisitor have been allowed to say that she can't now? Something like the Winter Palace dance with Florianne, where she can sound like an idiot?

And what hints in ME3 are you talking about?

The thing is I've never been arguing for some kind of convoluted classification schema.  It's an argument that WRPGs do in fact have an archetype and that archetype entails a collaborative aspect between creator and audience in character creation. That's it.

The less of that there is and the more static and didactic it becomes, the less of an RPG it is and the more of some other type of art.  Just like the more and more text you cram into a comic and the more images you take out, the less of a comic it becomes and the more of a book it becomes.  I'm not here to argue where the magical line falls exactly but merely to say that comics definitely *do* have images and the less images a thing has, the less like a comic it is.  It might still be a perfectly good book.   

Inasmuch as I like Bioware because they make RPGs I enjoy, I think it's quite valid to point out that "hey, the more this game becomes some other type of art instead of an RPG, the less I will enjoy it."  It's doubly worth mentioning when the audience largely has an expectation that their games are RPGs and that they explicitly market them as RPGs.  If "RPG" had no archetype at all, nobody would even talk about it because it would be a nonsense word or else some word that literally means nothing except "a thing I happen to like." 

What if Bioware is really a frontman organization placed by a real life alien Council to determine if humanity is ready to learn the truth of the galaxy and meet other lifeforms. And they take one look at the singleplayer forums and say "REJECTS" then they look at the multiplayer forums and say "yeah these guys are ready" and beam us up

so long suckahs

Of course that isn't what you meant. My point was that what you do mean isn't obvious. What's your actual problem with Krem? You brought him up.

As for ME3,  I can see how Synthesis might be ethically similar to eugenics. But the ethical problem with eugenics doesn't exist if eugenics doesn't actually work; if it doesn't work eugenics is just a stupid mistake. So what problem are you talking about?

Been a while since I made this topic and I admit I both phrased it wrongly and wrote it like a piece of bait - I did not actually mean socialism, I think I meant "social commentary towards Trump and his anti-migration" or something, but not "socialism" oof, that was an embarrassing one for me.

Speaking of Japanese games though, I did play the Ace Attorney series that were very timely. The first one was made in 2001 and depicts characters from the actual japanese law (heavily stylized and fictional of course) such as the low self-esteem police officer, the lenient judges and corrupt prosecution. Those were all actual things at the time and of course the game exaggerates it, but suffice it to say, politics were kind of a part of the game or at least it became so because it happened to be timely. They later made another game that was released pretty much the same time the court systems changed to a jurist trial system and the exact same thing happens in the game. It was mostly done within the boundaries of internal consistency of that series of course. I think MEA might too.

I just think that all this promo stuff about the ESA talking about astronauts and them using the same logic "Real Life: we wanted to go to space" = "Mass Effect: We want to go beyond Milky Way" cannot be applied the same way and Fabrice's comments about how it's an optimistic game where we're apparently liberating the Angara race and imposing our democratic ideas on them and the Kett (we'll see how this goes) reeks of the Left banging the alt-right and right-mentalities over the head with a message and given how heated and over-discussed all this already is on social media I would just find it to be a cop out to have as the subtext for the game.

They're people of color but they're not people of African descent.

Heinlein, Clarke and H G Wells where low brow? Becaue they where making social commentary in their novels, hell so was Mary Shelley with Frakenstein, arguably the first scifi story ever written

I disagree. Scientific concepts on their own don't give meaning to a story. The time machine in Wells' story is a vehicle to explore how human society could develop, and if that's not social commentary - in this case on the human tendency towards group hierarchy and the resulting wars - then what is? Also, "Frankenstein" clearly has a message of "your appearance doesn't determine how human you are".

The differences lie elsewhere.

First, these stories aren't games. They present a fictional reality that has some thematic overlap with reality, but they don't force you into complicity with a specific world-view since you're not an actor in the story. Any commentary remains detached, for you to think over, if you want. Also, those classics present a fictional reality so that it becomes thematically timeless. Again, it remains up to you to apply it to your reality, and if you don't want to, you needn't. That way, the commentary is there but it doesn't pull you out of the story, both because *current* images from RL aren't used, and because the interpretation isn't made for you.

In addition, these stories present a problem, but not solutions. As a rule, I acknowledge most of the social issues presented as problems in stories, but I despise many of the proposed attempts - in RL - at a solution. So if a story clearly wants to subscribe to one such attempt, I balk. If it's a book, I can ignore it if the author doesn't go into incessant filibustering, but if it's a game and the protagonist is affected, this game becomes irrevocably compromised.

It also depends on the "neutrality" of the political narrative. For example, Marvel has been adding an extreme ammount of politics to their comics, to the point were Donald freaking Trump is a villain now. And it's not just political bias, but prejudiced political bias. Such as for example, the Red Skull making anti immigration speeches, and then the comic pretty much saying that if you agree with such mentalities you are a neo nazi, or how Marvel has shown cops as evil oppressors that like beating up black people. I shit you not.



Having politics in itself is not bad, but when enterteinment tries to use it to mirror current events and antagonize people for having a disagreeable opinion, then it becomes a problem.

Yes, but who is JC?

Neat

You do realize, although not according to modern standards apparently(double standards everywhere), that the phrase "Person/People of Color" is insulting to white people.

White is a color as well. You cannot have a human being without color. Its impossible.