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Post by Tarkus on Apr 17, 2017 18:16:18 GMT
I hope one of the orc personalities is the crazy one (their the ones that just shriek or chatter their teeth).
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Examine the hidden corners of Minas Ithil from #ShadowOfWar in this hour-long chat w/ @monolithdev's Mike de Plater
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Post by CHRrOME on Apr 18, 2017 14:09:54 GMT
As fun and intriguing as Shadow of Mordor and Shadow or War's gameplay looks, a small part of me is unsure if I could ever get past the adolescent fan fic nature of it's story. The game's writers ditched Tolkein's themes of faith and fellowship, compassion, and how power and revenge inevitably corrupt and destroy it's user in favor of yet another emo, grimdark BAMF. "Yeah, let's get rid of all those gay hobbits and old fart wizards and play as a totally radical immortal Ranger whose also like a good Ringwraith! But not too good, cause were METAL!!!" The whole thing strikes me as both paradoxically munchkin nerd AND hardcore dudebro. If the creators had taken the "Dark Lord Hack and Slash/RTS hybrid" concept and made an original story, I might have been more interested. Oh wait, someone did and called it Overlord... You don't necessarily have to make another game about the movies/books to have a good product, you also don't need to add Hobbits and Istari to call it LOTR. My problem story wise was how they added a new (at least I think Talion is new) character that doesn't seem to have much weight in the lore. Is more about what happened to him than what happens to the world, and LOTR was always about the bigger picture more than individual stories. Then again, I never beat the game so I don't truly know if that changes at some point. Story for me was a bit superficial, without too much depth, more focused in gameplay and game mechanics. Hopefully they change that in the new game. Part of the problem too I think, is how complicated LOTR as a franchise is. I don't think any company or anyone is allowed to add new lore, and it seems that they're allowed with a very limited degree to touch characters that already existed within the lore (with the exception of Peter Jackson that can murder The Hobbit in his movies and get away with it). I think this is the reason why we don't really see new games from this franchise anymore.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 18, 2017 14:51:29 GMT
As fun and intriguing as Shadow of Mordor and Shadow or War's gameplay looks, a small part of me is unsure if I could ever get past the adolescent fan fic nature of it's story. The game's writers ditched Tolkein's themes of faith and fellowship, compassion, and how power and revenge inevitably corrupt and destroy it's user in favor of yet another emo, grimdark BAMF. "Yeah, let's get rid of all those gay hobbits and old fart wizards and play as a totally radical immortal Ranger whose also like a good Ringwraith! But not too good, cause were METAL!!!" The whole thing strikes me as both paradoxically munchkin nerd AND hardcore dudebro. If the creators had taken the "Dark Lord Hack and Slash/RTS hybrid" concept and made an original story, I might have been more interested. Oh wait, someone did and called it Overlord... Wasn't that more of a "Hack and Slash/Pikmin" mash up?
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Post by cloud9 on Apr 19, 2017 6:52:39 GMT
Let's see Dragon Age can top this shit!
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IGN @ign Get your first look at Shadow of War's new ability tree as we highlight the Predator skills that turn Talion into a stealthy assassin.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 15:44:00 GMT
I gotta say I don't know how I haven't got into this game already , I just watched the trailer/ game play for the second game and it looks brilliant !! I am definitely going to pick up the first game , once its pay day.
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 21, 2017 18:29:02 GMT
IGN @ign Let's take a look at some of the beasts you'll see roaming the lands of Mordor in #ShadowOfWar!
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Post by Farci Reprimer on Apr 22, 2017 6:59:45 GMT
Little worried now. All those new abilities seem just extra gimmicks to already established abilities with Assassins Creed Syndicate syndrome written all over it. Ability to do the same thing easier and faster ultimately takes away gameplay without replacing it with anything.
I mean, AC Syndicate for example introduced Batman style hookshot and all it did was make strategic climbing absolutely meaningless and London the largest city in the francise yet feel somehow the smallest of them. Not to mention you could always evade enemies no matter how badly they surrounded you.
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IGN @ign Let's take a look at the weapons and gear you'll be using in #ShadowOfWar!
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Post by Lavochkin on Apr 27, 2017 17:29:09 GMT
I still have to finish the first game despite having it on my steam account for ages now. Got around to finally playing it and just finished getting 100% completion in it, and so now, I definitely look forward to Shadow of War.
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Post by AnDromedary on May 3, 2017 18:37:08 GMT
As fun and intriguing as Shadow of Mordor and Shadow or War's gameplay looks, a small part of me is unsure if I could ever get past the adolescent fan fic nature of it's story. The game's writers ditched Tolkein's themes of faith and fellowship, compassion, and how power and revenge inevitably corrupt and destroy it's user in favor of yet another emo, grimdark BAMF. "Yeah, let's get rid of all those gay hobbits and old fart wizards and play as a totally radical immortal Ranger whose also like a good Ringwraith! But not too good, cause were METAL!!!" The whole thing strikes me as both paradoxically munchkin nerd AND hardcore dudebro. Exactly this!!! I played through SoM and I did have my fun but it really shouldn't have been an LotR game at all. The themes are so bent and twisted that at it's core, the game represents the exact opposite mindset of Tolkin's stories. I certainly won't get SoW at release, maybe for 5 bucks in a sale for the gameplay but it's not worth more to me since I just know that - like SoM - I'll be facepalming the entire time while playing it.
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Post by Hrungr on May 5, 2017 20:05:06 GMT
Shadow of War @shadowofwargameBeginning today's #ShadowOfWar Twitch livestream in an hour. Join, chat and watch with the community — TWITCH
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Post by Hrungr on May 17, 2017 13:02:24 GMT
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Post by Farci Reprimer on May 18, 2017 15:53:22 GMT
Looking forward to this but sometimes the concept of this story makes the Tolkien fan in me roll my eyes like never before if I think about it too much. Talion is basically sexier Aragorn who doesn't need a fellowship to walk into Mordor. He already fucking lives there! Guy doesn't need to destroy a One ring in Mount Doom like that noob Frodo Baggins. He just walks in there and fucking forges one for himself to combat the Dark lord single handedly! It makes it all seem like Talion is the most epic hero in Middle Earth and does 90% of the work by weakening Sauron just enough so the lesser heroes can take him down later. Just
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Post by Hrungr on May 18, 2017 16:32:58 GMT
Looking forward to this but sometimes the concept of this story makes the Tolkien fan in me roll my eyes like never before if I think about it too much. Talion is basically sexier Aragorn who doesn't need a fellowship to walk into Mordor. He already fucking lives there! Guy doesn't need to destroy a One ring in Mount Doom like that noob Frodo Baggins. He just walks in there and fucking forges one for himself to combat the Dark lord single handedly! It makes it all seem like Talion is the most epic hero in Middle Earth and does 90% of the work by weakening Sauron just enough so the lesser heroes can take him down later. Just As Tolkien was the main inspiration for party-based FRPGs, it would have been interesting to see that approach here. I would have also liked if it were more of a journey across ME, rather than being focused solely on Mordor. That said, as OOT as SoM is, I enjoy it - it's a damn fun game. The gameplay is great from the combat to the Nemesis system. I thought the human/wraith dynamic was very clever idea. Mordor is suitably Mordor-ish. What it does do, it does very well. Though I do take some umbrage with it calling itself an RPG though - so far I haven't seen any dialogue options or run across any branching narrative. It would be like... Tomb Raider calling itself an RPG.
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Post by Hrungr on May 22, 2017 15:13:21 GMT
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