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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Aug 8, 2017 6:45:32 GMT
Well, I never finished the first one and unlikely to buy the second. Always great to hear AJ. I'm with him against game micro-transactions.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 8, 2017 8:33:22 GMT
This is going to be interesting...
Ubisoft sold what they called 'time-savers' ~ short-cuts to collecting stuff in the game. If this Market is similar: a short-cut for folk with too little time or too much money to skip ahead, that might be fine if the balance hasn't been ganked.
I can't think of why I would want to pay to short-cut actually playing the game.
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 8, 2017 17:51:39 GMT
This is going to be interesting... Ubisoft sold what they called 'time-savers' ~ short-cuts to collecting stuff in the game. If this Market is similar: a short-cut for folk with too little time or too much money to skip ahead, that might be fine if the balance hasn't been ganked. I can't think of why I would want to pay to short-cut actually playing the game. All this suggests to me is the game is going to be a grind-fest to "encourage" you to buy into this...
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 8, 2017 19:42:29 GMT
This is going to be interesting... Ubisoft sold what they called 'time-savers' ~ short-cuts to collecting stuff in the game. If this Market is similar: a short-cut for folk with too little time or too much money to skip ahead, that might be fine if the balance hasn't been ganked. I can't think of why I would want to pay to short-cut actually playing the game. All this suggests to me is the game is going to be a grind-fest to "encourage" you to buy into this... That's certainly a risk. I hope it isn't, I like the first game.
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 9, 2017 2:41:26 GMT
Micro transactions in a SP game? Well, they can kindly go and plow themselves. In the event that I decide to buy the game, I'm going to take special enjoyment from using cheat-engine for my own "time-saving". What worries me is that other publishers are going to follow WB's lead and start putting their own MT in their SP games. And incrementally getting more and more exploitative - increasingly grindy, locking out content behind a paywall in a game you already paid full price for, etc.. I had a horrible thought of what they could have done in SP DAI had this caught on earlier. Cut down the accumulation of Power and Influence in-game and offer players a chance to buy them with RW money? Schematics? Rare Crafting Materials? Naturally decreasing your odds of finding them normally in-game in the process...
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Post by Gileadan on Aug 9, 2017 9:09:48 GMT
I liked Shadow of Mordor, but in this case I'm likely to vote with my wallet just as I did with Deus Ex: Mankind Divided. And just the presence of microtransactions in single player on top of a full priced game is likely going to tank the Steam review score something fierce.
I don't have a general problem with microtransactions, I gladly bought some cosmetic stuff in Path of Exile to support the dev team. But schemes like this don't see any money from me. It's not like I'm going to run out of games to play any time soon.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 9, 2017 9:30:52 GMT
This is going to be interesting... Ubisoft sold what they called 'time-savers' ~ short-cuts to collecting stuff in the game. If this Market is similar: a short-cut for folk with too little time or too much money to skip ahead, that might be fine if the balance hasn't been ganked. I can't think of why I would want to pay to short-cut actually playing the game. "Time-savers" my ass. Good games don't need time-savers, they have compelling game design consumers enjoy. For time-saving I can either mod the game or use cheats. If you believe their spin doctoring, they have already succeeded - it's nothing other than selling fucking cheats for money and designing the game in a way it's not fun without. Yea, that's what "Time-Savers" basically are. Fucking marketingspeak.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 9, 2017 9:36:00 GMT
This is going to be interesting... Ubisoft sold what they called 'time-savers' ~ short-cuts to collecting stuff in the game. If this Market is similar: a short-cut for folk with too little time or too much money to skip ahead, that might be fine if the balance hasn't been ganked. I can't think of why I would want to pay to short-cut actually playing the game. "Time-savers" my ass. Good games don't need time-savers, they have compelling game design consumers enjoy. For time-saving I can either mod the game or use cheats. If you believe their spin doctoring, they have already succeeded - it's nothing other than selling fucking cheats for money and designing the game in a way it's not fun without. Yea, that's what "Time-Savers" basically are. Fucking marketingspeak. I'm not saying I buy the PR, what I don't know is whether loot / character acquisition has been screwed with to force the issue. (and neither mods/cheats apply on Console)
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 9, 2017 9:44:30 GMT
"Time-savers" my ass. Good games don't need time-savers, they have compelling game design consumers enjoy. For time-saving I can either mod the game or use cheats. If you believe their spin doctoring, they have already succeeded - it's nothing other than selling fucking cheats for money and designing the game in a way it's not fun without. Yea, that's what "Time-Savers" basically are. Fucking marketingspeak. I'm not saying I buy the PR, what I don't know is whether loot / character acquisition has been screwed with to force the issue. (and neither mods/cheats apply on Console) That is a platform issue. If console consumers don't see how they are getting screwed from behind without them noticing, it's always good to remind them that they don't have to eat the shit they get served.
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Post by saandrig on Aug 9, 2017 13:51:58 GMT
Hah, if this trend catches on, using something like Cheat Engine will become the mandatory way of gaming. Remember when that was actually looked down upon?
O tempora! O mores!
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Post by ShadowAngel on Aug 9, 2017 16:21:42 GMT
Micro transactions?!?😭😭😭
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Post by CHRrOME on Aug 9, 2017 16:57:48 GMT
Microtran$actions on SP games, is this what industry has become? Shame, shame, shame.
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Post by Cyonan on Aug 9, 2017 17:02:11 GMT
A shame about the microtransactions as I actually liked the first game and was interested in the second. Unfortunately I find that it's exceedingly rare that a game that uses microtransaction actually balances things properly rather than increase the grind to "encourage" buying your way with real money.
This isn't the sort of thing I want to support, and the only way it'll stop is if people stop buying it.
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Post by mattig89ch on Aug 15, 2017 9:08:14 GMT
He's not wrong
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Post by therevanchist25 on Aug 15, 2017 19:03:50 GMT
I found the first game ridiculously over-rated, the entire concept is a murder sandbox with awful fan fiction writing. Regardless, Micro-trans in a SP game is just disgusting.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 16, 2017 20:44:18 GMT
Amusingly, moderator warfare appears to be breaking out on the WB Games forum, with threads relating to Microtransactions appearing to be removed. If a developer wants to reassure people that all will be well, deleting threads is not the answer... (subject to confirmation) community.wbgames.com
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Post by CHRrOME on Aug 17, 2017 2:12:16 GMT
I mean, what the heck did they expect? People to cheer them for adding microtransactions on a single player game? which is nothing but a pretty crap attempt of money grabbing if you ask me. Like paying a triple A price is not enough? And they announced that on a stream, right? they have balls, I give them that. Just look at the youtube video of Bethesda's Creation Club, I think it has a negative 1 to 10 dislike ratio, people don't like that type of stuff.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Aug 17, 2017 23:30:14 GMT
Yes, I'm sure that shutting down the discussion will make the controversy go away. I mean, Bioware closed their forums and subsequently ME:A was an unmitigated success that didn't face any type of controversy or backlash. This is pure genius. Shutting down the conversation is stupid, but how was Bioware closing their forums (or not) going to affect the reception MEA got?
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Aug 18, 2017 5:53:41 GMT
Sounds familiar....where have we heard that sort of thing before...?
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Post by Iakus on Aug 19, 2017 1:00:23 GMT
I mean, what the heck did they expect? People to cheer them for adding microtransactions on a single player game? which is nothing but a pretty crap attempt of money grabbing if you ask me. Like paying a triple A price is not enough? And they announced that on a stream, right? they have balls, I give them that. Just look at the youtube video of Bethesda's Creation Club, I think it has a negative 1 to 10 dislike ratio, people don't like that type of stuff. But look at how much it helped Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 19, 2017 9:16:04 GMT
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 19, 2017 16:01:31 GMT
I'm just sitting here shaking my head at some of those mod posts...
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