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Post by setecastronomy on Apr 5, 2017 6:17:18 GMT
Fuck you, Dutch. Mods, just ban me. I'm fatigued of this little passive-agressive bitch. And a ban would give me an excuse to never have to endure his poisonous bile anymore. And dutch, just between us... Re-iteration: Fuck you. Not because you got under my skin, but because I ain't the only one who wanted to say it. I just don't give a fuck anymore.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 5, 2017 6:18:45 GMT
An often overlooked fact is that bad press is bad press. It affects perception and that inevitably affects sales. Whether in the short term or the long term. Typically, unless its overwhelming negative, only the long term matters and by that time the damage and quality of the franchise suffers. Both general press critics and I say "average" gaming consensus is that MEA disappoints and for a popular IP that is NEVER a good thing. Downhill from here unless they seriously bite the bullet and actually invest in good writing and talented people over what they used for this iteration. I've got my issues with the game but the writing isn' t really one of them. The main story maybe doesn't flow as good as ME1 but we don't have anything here nearly as bad as a Terminator Reaper or the Star Child. I'd say the writing was fine for a ME game. Not great but it wasn't total cowpies either.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Apr 5, 2017 6:19:45 GMT
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Post by panzerwzh on Apr 5, 2017 6:23:13 GMT
Mass Effect Andromeda is the worst rated Bioware game by professional and user critical consensus. Across all three platforms it averages a 74 metascore, likewise its userscore is lower than DA2. Bioware seems finished. The "biggest" game they've ever made is a critical flop surpassing sonic. Moreover, it's been two weeks since launch and EA hasn't said a word of it being a success like they regularly do with games like Battlefield or other EA titles - I predict this game is also a commercial flop. I wonder if Bioware is going to be dissolved, if they do I won't be losing sleep tbqh. The sale is horrible. The current build of MEA has become the laughingstock. How dare of BW to release their product without QA is beyond me.
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Post by empirex on Apr 5, 2017 6:23:36 GMT
You won't lose sleep but all those people losing their jobs will. Most of the people in Bioware dont work there forever considering their hiring practices. The only people that make it their are kiss-assess as stated by numerous Ex-employees. Weird. Can you directly link me a source for that claim? I would like to see this. Also, I think it's super odd how people are so callously treating the developers. Look... They didn't kill your fucking dog or ruined the climate or sell your browsing history to the highest bidder or shot a starving kid on the street. Companies like Comcast, Exxon Mobil, Coca-Cola, and Apple have all done ACTUAL despicable things that have killed or hurt people in this world yet EA/Bioware can get voted as worst company in America (remember ME3?). The developers themselves aren't even wealthy Hollywood celebrities that are drunk in their power. They are normal, Honda-driving (probably) people that makes video games. They made a bad product (which arguably is debatable) that YOU choose to buy. No one was forced to do it. However, people making these mini-celebration over a group of people losing their jobs (show me that the majority of Bioware consist of mostly contracted employees) is just mind-boggling misplaced anger.
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Post by antmarch456 on Apr 5, 2017 6:30:26 GMT
To be honest, I don't often trust game reviews. 1) Reviewers have a deadline to finish and review the game, and so their mindset will be a bit different from how someone playing the game at home will think. 2) If it's a company's review (eg: IGN), I don't trust it because it's only 1 person out of hundreds in 1 company. 1 person's opinion shouldn't be addressed as the opinion of the whole group. Your opinion doesn't matter though since the consensus outweighs your personal emotional input. My "personal emotional input" is not meant to matter to everyone - it only matters to me. And I don't need Legion's consensus to ultimately dictate my opinion/review/feedback of a game (although it certainly will give me first-impressions and whatnot).
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Post by arreyanne on Apr 5, 2017 6:34:26 GMT
To be honest, I don't often trust game reviews. 1) Reviewers have a deadline to finish and review the game, and so their mindset will be a bit different from how someone playing the game at home will think. 2) If it's a company's review (eg: IGN), I don't trust it because it's only 1 person out of hundreds in 1 company. 1 person's opinion shouldn't be addressed as the opinion of the whole group. Your opinion doesn't matter though since the consensus outweighs your personal emotional input. Who died and elected you the representative all gamers everywhere? So you speak for everyone? Glad to know it, now how do we start the impeachment process, cause you sure as hell do not speak for me. Whether I like the game or not you're not my representative so kindly do not speak for me again Thanks
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Post by cobalt72 on Apr 5, 2017 6:36:36 GMT
Oh no, Dutch! What will you do with your pathetic life if Bioware goes away? Imagine all the free time you'll have once you can't troll anymore
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Post by smellycatbutts on Apr 5, 2017 7:04:06 GMT
Mass Effect Andromeda is the worst rated Bioware game by professional and user critical consensus. Across all three platforms it averages a 74 metascore, likewise its userscore is lower than DA2. Bioware seems finished. The "biggest" game they've ever made is a critical flop surpassing sonic. Moreover, it's been two weeks since launch and EA hasn't said a word of it being a success like they regularly do with games like Battlefield or other EA titles - I predict this game is also a commercial flop. I wonder if Bioware is going to be dissolved, if they do I won't be losing sleep tbqh. I am more likely to trust critic scores than user scores which are often reactionary or protest votes--hell, even I'll admit to it--I gave that garbage fucking movie, "Life" a ZERO on metacritic. Worst movie I've seen this year! Also DA2 was the worst of all Bioware games. If I gave enough shits, I'd go on metacritic and give that one a ZERO too.
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Post by armass81 on Apr 5, 2017 7:33:16 GMT
I don't think the series or Bioware will get killed off, but I expect that MEA2 will be very different. Maybe they'll abandon open-world completely since it hasn't worked out well for them. If they cant do intresting open worlds, they might as well abandon it and go back to the corridor shooting of ME2. Its a shame tough. Or maybe they work some compromise.
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Post by Archangel on Apr 5, 2017 7:45:32 GMT
Metacritic is cancer caused by fanboys and haters, their reviews are worth less than nothing.
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Post by neoiceman on Apr 5, 2017 8:05:50 GMT
Mass Effect Andromeda is the worst rated Bioware game by professional and user critical consensus. Across all three platforms it averages a 74 metascore, likewise its userscore is lower than DA2. Bioware seems finished. The "biggest" game they've ever made is a critical flop surpassing sonic. Moreover, it's been two weeks since launch and EA hasn't said a word of it being a success like they regularly do with games like Battlefield or other EA titles - I predict this game is also a commercial flop. I wonder if Bioware is going to be dissolved, if they do I won't be losing sleep tbqh. Worst rated Bioware Game ever and still an good game, dont know what you want to say o_O If you look at the Scores some Magazines, i never heared of, giving ME:A 50 out of 100 ? WTF and for that, the score with an 74, it is more than good its near on an super good game Sry but i think these idiots shouldnt be allowed to score games.
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Post by vonuber on Apr 5, 2017 8:13:37 GMT
You'd think Dutch would be happy given he has his own cameo.
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Post by correctamundo on Apr 5, 2017 8:22:25 GMT
Metacritic is about as meaningful as pseudoscience.
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Post by lurkinganon on Apr 5, 2017 8:27:15 GMT
Mass Effect Andromeda is the worst rated Bioware game by professional and user critical consensus. Across all three platforms it averages a 74 metascore, likewise its userscore is lower than DA2. Bioware seems finished. The "biggest" game they've ever made is a critical flop surpassing sonic. Moreover, it's been two weeks since launch and EA hasn't said a word of it being a success like they regularly do with games like Battlefield or other EA titles - I predict this game is also a commercial flop. I wonder if Bioware is going to be dissolved, if they do I won't be losing sleep tbqh. 74 is way more honest of a score, desu. 70s is exactly where I'd put the current game. It disgusts me that Mass Effect 3 got a high score when it did not deserve it. Horizon has a higher score than Andromeda even though it has similar problems like writing, faces, facial and general animations, So what saves that?
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Post by Eterna on Apr 5, 2017 8:31:51 GMT
I'm pretty sure this is only because if the rampant bugs and other tech issues that are currently being fixed. I'm not really worried.
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Post by vilegrim on Apr 5, 2017 8:32:26 GMT
I don't think the series or Bioware will get killed off, but I expect that MEA2 will be very different. Maybe they'll abandon open-world completely since it hasn't worked out well for them. They didn't learn that open world and a blandly good protag didn't work in DA:I, so gave us exactly the same but in space for ME:A and it didn't work their either.... So far they keep moving away from what did work, (paragon and renegade, or the Wardens ability to be either a saint or a complete dick) and giving us blander, flatter characters both to play and as companions. I am not hopeful they have learned a damn thing.
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Post by Trynstark on Apr 5, 2017 8:34:40 GMT
I like MEA and I don't care about reviews and such "critics" outside of myself so...
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Post by havox on Apr 5, 2017 9:03:20 GMT
Horizon has a higher score than Andromeda even though it has similar problems like writing, faces, facial and general animations, So what saves that? Console exclusive, lower standards.
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Post by Wintermist on Apr 5, 2017 9:07:39 GMT
Ever since it became a trend to vote 0 I stopped checking Metacritic at all. It's not even slightly interesting to me. I read reviews from people I trust and that have the same taste as me in games, that way I get a pretty objective view tailored to my own preferences in games. It works best for me, and I leave the corrupt sites alone.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 9:32:25 GMT
Mass Effect Andromeda is the worst rated Bioware game by professional and user critical consensus. Across all three platforms it averages a 74 metascore, likewise its userscore is lower than DA2. Bioware seems finished. The "biggest" game they've ever made is a critical flop surpassing sonic. Moreover, it's been two weeks since launch and EA hasn't said a word of it being a success like they regularly do with games like Battlefield or other EA titles - I predict this game is also a commercial flop. I wonder if Bioware is going to be dissolved, if they do I won't be losing sleep tbqh. 74 is way more honest of a score, desu. 70s is exactly where I'd put the current game. It disgusts me that Mass Effect 3 got a high score when it did not deserve it. Horizon has a higher score than Andromeda even though it has similar problems like writing, faces, facial and general animations, So what saves that? I don't know how good Horizon Zero Dawn is but MEA suffers of the comparison to the main Trilogy. People idealise the Trilogy and treat it as one game while if you took the games separatly, they were faaaaaaaar from perfect...
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Post by hammerstorm on Apr 5, 2017 10:15:22 GMT
Oh no, Dutch! What will you do with your pathetic life if Bioware goes away? Imagine all the free time you'll have once you can't troll anymore Oh, don't worry, if Bioware goes down he will just start hate CDPR instead and tell everybody how Bioware made the best games and how sad it was that they disappeared, bla bla. Or he will find some new game company that he can compare to CDPR. (maybe bethesda) Trolls will always find something to do.
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Post by phantomrachie on Apr 5, 2017 10:28:40 GMT
Considering the game has been meta bombed cos - SJWS HAVE RUINED IT! The user Metacritic rating is meaningless. As for the critics score, I'd rate it a bit higher than most critics 8/10 but I can understand why you'd rate it a bit lower, there are some elements to the game that are very 'your mileage may vary'
For example, I know some complained that the Archon wasn't a good bad guy, but personally, as soon as I discovered what exaltation was, I had full on rage to murder him. Saren was much more sympathetic to me, I got why he did what he did. The Kett are like biological Borg and I enjoyed killing the Archon. I also liked the open world elements, much better done than in DA:I, each planet felt alive and important.
It's not as good as the trilogy as a whole, but IMO it is better than ME1.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 5, 2017 10:37:37 GMT
Mass Effect Andromeda is the worst rated Bioware game by professional and user critical consensus. Across all three platforms it averages a 74 metascore, likewise its userscore is lower than DA2. Bioware seems finished. The "biggest" game they've ever made is a critical flop surpassing sonic. Moreover, it's been two weeks since launch and EA hasn't said a word of it being a success like they regularly do with games like Battlefield or other EA titles - I predict this game is also a commercial flop. I wonder if Bioware is going to be dissolved, if they do I won't be losing sleep tbqh. That just tells me that their older titles, particularly DA2, were over-scored by critics.
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Post by KLGChaos on Apr 5, 2017 10:38:03 GMT
I never trust user reviews. People abouse the crap out of them. They won't even play the game and rate it 0 or fanboy out and rate it 10. There's rarely any actually constructive reviews, just knee-jerk reactions.
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