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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 5, 2017 11:16:01 GMT
Let's be civil in here. As varying people have insulted each other, let's call it quits (short of having to remove half the thread). I'm quite looking forward to adding my own review to Metacritic, though as I'm yet half way through after 70 hours, that's going to take a while.
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Post by dark8sage on Apr 5, 2017 11:31:51 GMT
I want to give the game a 9-10, but it's just obviously not possible. Not even a 8.
It deserves a 7. It's riddled with bugs, animation failures, and it's obvious that it was released early because after Eos and Voeld, the other worlds have far less quest material.
I've been locked out nearly two weeks from progressing the game because Cora's asari ark transponder loyalty mission bugged on me (scanned last transponder, couldn't interact with it) and I was far ahead with a save as I expected a hotfix, not 2 weeks for a patch that may or may not fix it. It's a critical side mission about finding the asari ark, which determines Captain Dunn's survival as well, and my Cora has sat through the entire game locked out of her tier 6 skills.
To top it off, the M/M romances are insulting. I don't care about quantity. I care about quality. Of the two options we have, both men are made with the hideous character creator, which means I've found Reyes clones in Addison's office with a different hairstyle. None of the two options have unique art assets like the squad mates, they get less dialogue, and their sex/romance scenes are pitiful compared to everyone else.
Even with Reyes, who's a pretty cool character on his own, they just copy pasted the female Ryder animation template onto Scott, which ends up with him looking up into the air while dancing with Reyes despite him being taller than Reyes, and whenever they kiss, Scott actually kisses the side of Reyes's mouth since they copy pasted the animation straight off Sara Ryder instead of accounting for Scott's male dimensions.
I cannot as a PC user rebind my release from monster grab key, they didn't make a keybind for it so I'm stuck mashing "E".
I love the combat, I love my crew mates, but that cannot make up for the sheer degree of negligence in releasing the game in such an unpolished state. The gamestopping bugs, the seriously bad animations, the complete lack of diversity in racial faces (people love to point out asari, but don't say anything of Salarians or Angarans who are just as bad).
They deserve the criticism. It's a consumer product that demands scrutiny. The moment customers start to care less and less about quality standards, the more these companies will get away with.
I did not pay to beta test a product. And this game is no doubt still on a late beta state when it was released. It was rushed out; it could have been an amazing game. Now they are going to fix some things in several months, when the damage to early adapters has already been done.
I'm mad at Bioware because they are making it so easy for their enemies by deliberately damaging their own brand with these unpolished releases. They should have been on their A game after the ME3 fiasco, instead of abandoning this beloved franchise in favor of their new IP.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 11:35:47 GMT
I don't know what everyone's talking about I love this Dutch guy, he's so entertaining. Don't agree with a single thing he says mind but my god he doesn't half light a thread up. You keep being you ya weird green frog thing. That said the metacritic reviewer score sits a fair bit under what I would personally rate the game (about an 8.3 maybe) but I have to be mindful that as a Mass Effect fan I could be a bit more forgiving of it's flaws compared to the general populace who are just looking for a decent game to play.
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Post by Ajax on Apr 5, 2017 11:49:48 GMT
Horizon has a higher score than Andromeda even though it has similar problems like writing, faces, facial and general animations, So what saves that? Console exclusive, lower standards. Much lower standards, true, but the writing and animations are still an order of magnitude higher than MEA. MEA problem is it completely failed the high expectations but it's even bad on its own terms. People say "without the original trilogy MEA would've been rated much higher". I don't think so. Even if they fixed the animations the pedestrian writing would still bore people to tears.
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Post by dark8sage on Apr 5, 2017 11:57:36 GMT
I don't mind the writing that much, tbh.
Whoever wrote Reyes and Drack for example is a gem.
Reyes is just sooo smooth ;>
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Post by linksocarina on Apr 5, 2017 14:13:59 GMT
I don't mind the writing that much, tbh. Whoever wrote Reyes and Drack for example is a gem. Reyes is just sooo smooth ;> He's Ricardo Montalban mixed with Han solo. He's ok. A bit cliche, but a standout character. The game needs a few more though I think, problem is not a lot of characters stand out
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Post by correctamundo on Apr 5, 2017 14:56:13 GMT
I don't mind the writing that much, tbh. Whoever wrote Reyes and Drack for example is a gem. Reyes is just sooo smooth ;> He's Ricardo Montalban mixed with Han solo. He's ok. A bit cliche, but a standout character. The game needs a few more though I think, problem is not a lot of characters stand out I was thinking Rick Blaine but then they threw Will Kane in there. Anyway aren't more or less all Video game characters cliche? Maybe not Solas. Vorn is not your cliche Krogan though.
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Post by setokaiba on Apr 5, 2017 15:00:29 GMT
Mass Effect Andromeda is the worst rated Bioware game by professional and user critical consensus. Across all three platforms it averages a 74 metascore, likewise its userscore is lower than DA2. Bioware seems finished. The "biggest" game they've ever made is a critical flop surpassing sonic. Moreover, it's been two weeks since launch and EA hasn't said a word of it being a success like they regularly do with games like Battlefield or other EA titles - I predict this game is also a commercial flop. I wonder if Bioware is going to be dissolved, if they do I won't be losing sleep tbqh. 74 is way more honest of a score, desu. 70s is exactly where I'd put the current game. It disgusts me that Mass Effect 3 got a high score when it did not deserve it. Horizon has a higher score than Andromeda even though it has similar problems like writing, faces, facial and general animations, So what saves that? It's not getting the hate because people deemed it a great game before release. It didn't get the hate train Mass Effect got before release so that's why it's getting good reviews. Reviewers know they can get clicks and respect if they jump on the same train as gamers.
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Post by canuckgamer on Apr 5, 2017 15:13:28 GMT
This game has topped the charts in the UK two weeks in a row, a success the Inquisition never pulled off and despite the hate Inquisition become one of the top selling opening week games in Bioware's history. This game will make money for EA and bioware, and despite the overblown hate coming its way, its willingness to fix and expand the game shows they are committed to the series and we will see another game in the not to distant future.
It's buggy like previous ME games. The stuff that has earned it a 0 with some people who never played it will largely be addressed in the next two months. They will continue to sell more games moving forward. Especially as DLC starts to roll out.
The metacritic score started at 3.2 at one point and has moved up to 4.6 and 4.7 and settled there despite a concentrated effort by a clearly dedicated hater group. Click through the same repetative hate write ups and realize for many of them, this is the one and only review.
Xbox One store where people who actually buy it review has a couple hundred reviews and so far its sitting at a 4.3/5.The polls on this group have shown repeatedly that the fanbase thinks its a good (if slightly flawed) game. It's hard to find objectivity in mass scoring, but a 75-80 seems fair to me on this game. Once the major glitches are addressed it could be higher.
As more people play this game and weigh in over time, I expect the metacritic score to tick up. Probably landing close to what ME:3 managed (5.6 I think). I noticed a massive wave of negativity on day one, and after a week a wave of super positive reviews as the first wave of players actually finished it.
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Post by ticktak77 on Apr 5, 2017 15:35:06 GMT
I don't mind the writing that much, tbh. Whoever wrote Reyes and Drack for example is a gem. Reyes is just sooo smooth ;> He's Ricardo Montalban mixed with Han solo. He's ok. A bit cliche, but a standout character. The game needs a few more though I think, problem is not a lot of characters stand outYep, agreed. Beyond the main characters and squadmates, I find myself having to do a quick google search when someone is talking about a character by name in this game. Just largely unforgettable characters.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 5, 2017 15:41:28 GMT
I'd put aout as much faith in Dutch's information as a used cars salesman. He obviously has his, biases. Was just wondering if that was a confirmed thing or not. Sounds like it isn't then. Don't know about MP only, but it will definitely not be an RPG: www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/02/02/new-new-bioware-action-adventure-due-by-march-2018/Apparently the best way to meld genres is to remove one and keep the other Color me uninterested.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 15:53:16 GMT
It will probably be something like Destiny/The Division, only good. SP and MP in one, with every Bioware cliche we've come to love/hate.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 5, 2017 15:57:05 GMT
It will probably be something like Destiny/The Division, only good. SP and MP in one, with every Bioware cliche we've come to love/hate. Yeah, I've read little about either game that looks remotely worth my time and money.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 5, 2017 17:03:17 GMT
It will probably be something like Destiny/The Division, only good. SP and MP in one, with every Bioware cliche we've come to love/hate. Have to wait and see. Removing the RPG aspects but keeping the story and characters sounds like ME2 to me. I can't say my interest is peaked but I'm not writing it off yet either.
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 5, 2017 17:23:14 GMT
You'd think Dutch would be happy given he has his own cameo. ok who is this "Dutch" guy?
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Post by jackdaniel on Apr 5, 2017 17:30:55 GMT
It will probably be something like Destiny/The Division, only good. SP and MP in one, with every Bioware cliche we've come to love/hate. Yeah, I've read little about either game that looks remotely worth my time and money. Ugh, "Action/adventure" is the bane of the game industry. I honestly don't know whether BioWare is making games for their investors or their customers.
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Post by ZaudStorm™ on Apr 8, 2017 11:07:30 GMT
Annd it's down to 70 for the PS4 version....
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Post by Marduk on Apr 8, 2017 12:04:56 GMT
Annd it's down to 70 for the PS4 version.... Metacritic scores are usually just good for getting a general idea about a game and overall the game is around 6, 7 or 8 out of 10 for many it seems. regardless though the main issue is that they aggregate scores from different people with different rating systems while probably claiming that their algorithm or w/e makes it fair. plus some have their own interesting preferences. for example Jim Sterling giving Fallout 4 a 9.5/10 and Andromeda a 5.0/10. for the record i do believe Fallout 4 is a better game but the difference in score is amusing. it is subjective of course so i am just giving my opinion about another opinion.
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Post by lyq3r on Apr 8, 2017 14:22:06 GMT
I'd give it 65 tops. I've been playing singleplayer for more than a day (25hrs+) now, and God help me finish the playthrough, please! The only thing that's okay, would be the combat, maybe with a little exception when enemies get dumb and run like turds or stand still pointlessly; also some views are pretty cool, but it's not what an rpg should be based, focused on specifically. I have no strength to create an elaborate post, I'm tired like that woman's face (who cares for her name, for any character's name? pff!) cuz being sick ain't fun, duh!? After watching the meme vids, reviews and the whole funny stuff on youtube and internetz/extranetz etc., I can only confirm that the writing is a total disaster, it breaks the immersion. You just sit there, staring at the screen and think "wtf!?"; character development - none, haven't noticed yet; dialogues - nightmare, worse than in porn movies, crappy story - "plot black holes", every step in the gaame when talkng to npc we get to read some BW's lore inconsistent bs; fetch quests; respawnig enemies in the same effing place all over again - right after You've killed them like a three times before, when passing the same area, they are still there; instead of role playing game we get neverending stories featuring Nomad and fetch quests (I must admit the MAKO is waaay superior). There's so much wrong with it that I could spew my poison, acid hazardous shit out of my mouth all day long, but I will just go rest and play chess, to regenerate my brain cells. Also, here's so more insight to what I mostly agree with, because I haven't finished the game yet. There may be some spoilers in the video!
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