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Post by melbella on Oct 12, 2016 3:12:17 GMT
Cousland. Dear vengeful hungry power wielding sex goddess of death who savored Howe's death so very very very much. I loved that the Origin tied into the end game, slightly better than even City Elf's alienage adventures. (Although it occurs to me that Vaughn is Howe's son? Didn't know it at the time.) But the "all my family murdered and revenge" thing is a tad unoriginal and doesn't have the same darkness as the City Elf. Extra enjoyed being Queen, but still...
No, they are not related, though they do appear to have come from the same slime pit. Vaughn is the son of the Arl of Denerim (surname Kendalls) who died with Cailan at Ostagar. Howe became the new Arl when Loghain appointed him to the post.
Howe has 3 children: Nate, Delilah (we meet both in Awakening and DA2) and Thomas, who died in the war.
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Post by secretrare on Oct 22, 2016 20:52:43 GMT
1)Female city elf 2)Male human prince
Those are but the only wardens with whom i finished the game,they are in order of preference.
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Post by olnorton on Oct 22, 2016 23:54:44 GMT
The male mage in my avatar was my first play through. Female city Elf is my favourite, followed closely by female Dalish mage. (with mod)
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Post by legbamel on Nov 26, 2016 14:14:15 GMT
My first was a female Amell who accidentally let Alistair do the US. She was a disaster from the word go, like all my first runs. That's definitely not my favorite origin, though.
I love the city elf for how dark a picture it paints of life in the Alienage and as a sub-human just a step outside of slavery. I love the Danish because Tamlen. (swoons)
My favorite origin turned out to be the very last one I played. I never felt any desire to play dwarves but the commoner origin ended up being so interesting that I did an Aeducan. I got sucked into her story from the first scene. She was angry the whole game, distrustful and snapping at everyone. Only Alistair got past her shell. She turned onto my favorite character, the one I am most invested in and sorriest not to see again.
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Post by mike3207 on Nov 27, 2016 0:59:07 GMT
Male human Cousland-yes. I remember being surprised when I later found out you could marry the Queen, because I did not do that with my warrior tank.
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Post by correctamundo on Dec 2, 2016 14:36:21 GMT
My first warden was Dalish. Sidra Mahariel, and that origin is still my favourite. It's very mysterious as well as tragic. Some say it is the shortest but I've never noticed. I have done a side-by-side comparison to Aeducan and never felt that one was significantly longer than the other. The start i so nice, hunting with Tamlen in the Woods and right off the bat you get to make a difficult choice. Especially when I was entirely new to Thedas. What to do with these shemlen? I wonder? I Think spared them after being intimidating the first time. Then the Eluvian. Mystery tour galore. I have since started every other origin and like them all more or less. I haven't been able to really get into the mage one yet though. But I don't really dislike it. Dalish is still the favourite though! Brosca close second!
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Post by masterwarderz on Dec 2, 2016 15:11:07 GMT
No, Human Noble is my favorite, my first roll was Human Mage.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 9, 2016 17:00:22 GMT
I would asy yes as my first hero was a mage and I've always loved playing characters with the kind of power that the DA mages have
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 20:59:50 GMT
No. And I've played through all the origins, I like Aeuducan and Cousland the most though. Amell is secondary but neverthless, I still love her.
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Post by Finvola on Dec 15, 2016 17:53:35 GMT
No, my first was Dalish. I liked playing as a Dalish but I find the opening storyline to be the most bland. City elf female was the one that stunned me. Cousland is a close second, and both of the Dwarf ones are good. I would like the Circle one more if it hadn't been all about getting dragged into Jowan's mess.
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Post by Catilina on Dec 15, 2016 18:04:19 GMT
No, my first was Dalish. I liked playing as a Dalish but I find the opening storyline to be the most bland. City elf female was the one that stunned me. Cousland is a close second, and both of the Dwarf ones are good. I would like the Circle one more if it hadn't been all about getting dragged into Jowan's mess. What's wrong with Jowan? Just want to be free like everyone else in the world.
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Post by Finvola on Dec 15, 2016 18:50:48 GMT
It's not that I find anything wrong with mages wanting their freedom, it's just that I find him whiny and he lies to his best friend in order to help him escape. It's the betrayal I guess, more than anything. Not that my mages would have a problem with blood magic, as that's usually the specialization I choose, but if he'd only been honest about it I might have felt differently about him. Jowan and the future warden are supposed to be friends, after all.
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Post by mousestalker on Dec 15, 2016 18:56:08 GMT
Jowan leaves his girl friend and his best friend holding the bag at the end of the mage's origin. I find it a lot easier to treat him gently at Redcliffe if my warden is not a mage. My mages tend to be pretty rough with him.
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Post by Finvola on Dec 15, 2016 19:10:03 GMT
Exactly that, people suffer because of his actions and that's why I don't like his character. I would probably play as a mage more often if not for him because I do like being a mage. It's just that the whole storyline revolves around Jowan and his betrayal. It almost makes me want to rat him out to Irving just because.
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Post by Catilina on Dec 15, 2016 19:14:09 GMT
Jowan leaves his girl friend and his best friend holding the bag at the end of the mage's origin. I find it a lot easier to treaty him gently at Redcliffe if my warden is not a mage. My mages tend to be pretty rough with him. Exactly that, people suffer because of his actions and that's why I don't like his character. I would probably play as a mage more often if not for him because I do like being a mage. It's just that the whole storyline revolves around Jowan and his betrayal. It almost makes me want to rat him out to Irving just because. When Jowan betrayed his fried? His girl friend refused him, because he is blood mage, as I remember, so: she betrayed him. (Probably I need to replay this origin, it was long time ago... I always feel sorry for him. Irwing a kind old man, but he is nothing more than a prison guard among the prisoners.)
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Post by phoray on Dec 15, 2016 20:29:31 GMT
Finvola huh It never occurred to me to feel betrayed by Jowan, and I resented the game trying to make me sound that way every time I talked to him. Jowan doesn't want to be made Tranquil. Apparently, half the Circle is practicing blood magic, but he's the one that was thrown under the bus to keep their cover or.. he was just bad at being sneaky.my Surana literally got to say the line that "blood magic isn't all that big a deal" paraphrasing during the conversation he asks for help. Regardless of his supposed sin, when I approached Irving about it he was super ambiguous and merely declared that the decision had been made and would not be unmade. Matter settled, no argument from me could sway him. Resolute, I went back to Jowan and said I'd help him. I didn't believe in any Mage being made Tranquil. Either kill them or leave them alone. Jowan did not lie about the threat on his life, and that's all I cared about. I was happy to see him leave the Circle. I told him to make another stab at freedom when I let him out of the cell. And I told him "hero was a good look on him" when I saw him for the last time. There he was, being amazing, a prime example of how Tranquility would have been a terrible judgement.
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Post by Catilina on Dec 15, 2016 20:58:38 GMT
Finvola huh It never occurred to me to feel betrayed by Jowan, and I resented the game trying to make me sound that way every time I talked to him. Jowan doesn't want to be made Tranquil. Apparently, half the Circle is practicing blood magic, but he's the one that was thrown under the bus to keep their cover or.. he was just bad at being sneaky.my Surana literally got to say the line that "blood magic isn't all that big a deal" paraphrasing during the conversation he asks for help. Regardless of his supposed sin, when I approached Irving about it he was super ambiguous and merely declared that the decision had been made and would not be unmade. Matter settled, no argument from me could sway him. Resolute, I went back to Jowan and said I'd help him. I didn't believe in any Mage being made Tranquil. Either kill them or leave them alone. Jowan did not lie about the threat on his life, and that's all I cared about. I was happy to see him leave the Circle. I told him to make another stab at freedom when I let him out of the cell. And I told him "hero was a good look on him" when I saw him for the last time. There he was, being amazing, a prime example of how Tranquility would have been a terrible judgement. As I see, many people dislike Jowan, because he's "whiny" and uses blood magic... seriously, who NOT uses blood magic in the Circles? Probably only Wynne, and Anders, but if I think about it, I am less and less sure about Wynne... This Circles as real life prisons: even if anyone totally innocent when closed, one-two years, and can be super villain. The blood specialization in the Circles seems more common than healer.
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Post by Finvola on Dec 15, 2016 23:24:29 GMT
I did turn him in to Irving once when I played an asshole warden. Other than that, I just play along with the storyline. My mages want to be free as well and wouldn't snitch on a friend. Despite me saying above thread that I dislike him, I usually let him go free at Redcliffe. After all, even though the warden doesn't realize it at the time, Jowan actually did them a favor by setting the chain of events in motion. Jowan is suffering the consequences, while my warden is living free from the circle. I still think he deserves the chance to turn his life around and do good things. Exception was with my asshole mage warden. I just killed him outright. I also sided with the templars and killed Wynne with that warden.
I don't think blood magic is bad, it's a very useful and powerful skill. I think it's magic just like any other and I always give the specialization to my mage, or if I'm not playing a mage myself, to Wynne.
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Post by Catilina on Dec 16, 2016 1:07:40 GMT
I did turn him in to Irving once when I played an asshole warden. Other than that, I just play along with the storyline. My mages want to be free as well and wouldn't snitch on a friend. Despite me saying above thread that I dislike him, I usually let him go free at Redcliffe. After all, even though the warden doesn't realize it at the time, Jowan actually did them a favor by setting the chain of events in motion. Jowan is suffering the consequences, while my warden is living free from the circle. I still think he deserves the chance to turn his life around and do good things. Exception was with my asshole mage warden. I just killed him outright. I also sided with the templars and killed Wynne with that warden. I don't think blood magic is bad, it's a very useful and powerful skill. I think it's magic just like any other and I always give the specialization to my mage, or if I'm not playing a mage myself, to Wynne. I don't remember, that I ever felt that he betrayed my Warden(s). When happened this?
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Post by Finvola on Dec 16, 2016 1:59:41 GMT
There is a fix (I think on the old Bioware site?) that restores Jowan's missing quest if you set him free. After you install it, it will show up as a quest on the chanter's board.
I agree, even though I don't care much for the mage origins, I still think Jowan deserves a shot at freedom. The things he did wasn't out of malice, he was desperate. People do foolish things and don't always have well thought out plans. I'm not a completely heartless person, oh except for that one time with my evil mage. That was mostly to unlock achievements and things, I made decisions I wouldn't normally with that one character. I never side with the templars otherwise. When it comes to the final battle I find the mages are much more useful than the templars. I always call on the mages when we reach the archdemon.
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Post by boabykenobi on Dec 16, 2016 15:30:55 GMT
I've just started DA for the 1st time. I chose to be a human warrior, noble born. I couldn't select any other option other than noble born for a human character. It's the ultimate expanded version I have on Steam. Had it for a while now. Got it ages ago on sale for like £1.99 or something but haven't really played it until now. I think it's pretty good so far. Played about 6 hours of it. I'm level 5 I think. The gameplay is very similar to KOTOR I think, which is not a bad thing. I kept getting my ass kicked until I figured out how to pause in battle and select other characters and switch to secondary weapons etc. I like how you actually have to think about battles and use your party wisely. I'm just past Lothering in a camp. I tried to convince some revered woman to let a prisoner into my custody but she refused. I did the first quest on the Chantry board, wiping out bandits, and I've accepted another one to take out a family of bears but other than that I didn't spend too much time in Lothering but I can always go back. I have quite a lot of active quests as when I arrived at the camp a few of the DLC quests activated so there's plenty to do. Regarding the story it's been pretty good so far. Some twists and shocks early on, during The Tower of Ishal. Duncan dying was unexpected. Great stuff so far. Going to play some soon actually.
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I've just started DA for the 1st time. I chose to be a human warrior, noble born. I couldn't select any other option other than noble born for a human character. It's the ultimate expanded version I have on Steam. Had it for a while now. Got it ages ago on sale for like £1.99 or something but haven't really played it until now. I think it's pretty good so far. Played about 6 hours of it. I'm level 5 I think. The gameplay is very similar to KOTOR I think, which is not a bad thing. I kept getting my ass kicked until I figured out how to pause in battle and select other characters and switch to secondary weapons etc. I like how you actually have to think about battles and use your party wisely. I'm just past Lothering in a camp. I tried to convince some revered woman to let a prisoner into my custody but she refused. I did the first quest on the Chantry board, wiping out bandits, and I've accepted another one to take out a family of bears but other than that I didn't spend too much time in Lothering but I can always go back. I have quite a lot of active quests as when I arrived at the camp a few of the DLC quests activated so there's plenty to do. Regarding the story it's been pretty good so far. Some twists and shocks early on, during The Tower of Ishal. Duncan dying was unexpected. Great stuff so far. Going to play some soon actually. You can just get him out of the cage by unlocking it. And if you finish any other area, You are NOT able to return to Lothering. So. I suggest a quick walk back. Did you go in the Tavern? Trying not to spoil you, but you'll miss out if you don't do these two p things. Oh! And if you want spoil free, you can start your own thread in this section. And title no spoilers. People give you tips like mine without ruining story for you. I love all the DA games. That first time was a special experience I wish I could repeat.
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Post by Finvola on Dec 16, 2016 20:47:15 GMT
I completely missed the tavern the first time I played. However, I think returned before doing the first major quest and didn't miss out on the important thing there.
There's a couple of ways to open the cage, but without giving away spoilers, picking the lock with a rogue is one of the easier ways and doesn't involve dealing with the Revered mother.
As I said before, my first character was a Dalish rogue (don't remember if she was an archer or duel wield) and I loved the story very much. When I played the other origins, I thought that compared to the others it was short and pretty bland in comparison. I remember City Elf left me with my jaw on the floor and I believe I even got teary eyed when I played a Cousland for the first time. They were the ones that were the most powerful for me. I prefer to play a Dalish, but I still think that it has the weakest opener.
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR
MrSmad112
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Post by boabykenobi on Dec 17, 2016 9:16:09 GMT
And if you finish any other area, You are NOT able to return to Lothering. So. I suggest a quick walk back. Did you go in the Tavern? Trying not to spoil you, but you'll miss out if you don't do these two p things. I did visit the tavern where I met a strange woman who offered to join me so I said yes. I was going to slay that family of bears, well at least try to anyway, and it's to the north of Lothering apparently so I'm off there next. So the game's not open world then? Or maybe you get tied into a quest and cant do anything else until you've finished it?
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