The Old Guard (Ye Olde Cullen Thread v4.0 + gen discussion)

Yeah, like Solas, he's the late added LI. He doesn't comfort you after your mother dies, he doesn't get mentioned in the epilogue by Varric, and he doesn't even count for the romance achievement.

But he does offer his condolences to you in ambient banter. As does Cullen. :heart eyes:

The Solas romance at least doesn't leave you feeling cheated.  I'm not sure why they bothered adding Seb for a romance though.  It's like they forgot to add half of it in.  That accent though....

Hmm I had to pay for him, but I got the game like six months after it was released. (My first DA and really RPG experience ♥) 

They gotta stop these half-ass additions. People just fall in love with the characters then feel frustrated when they realize the romance isn't fully integrated... yeah I feel like what happened to Sebmancers has to be the worst. Your romance not even being consider an achievement is like, fricking cold man lol Geez!

I had to pay for the DLC as well. For something like that, I definitely felt cheated. The scene in the Gallows where you talk to everyone, you don't even get so much as a handshake from Seb. I mean, come on, I know it's a chaste marriage, but you can't give Hawke a hug?!?

Huh, Day 1 Dlc ... I do not remember paying for him. I just remember that my husband did, cause I watched him play and saw that he was missing Seb at the Gallows scene and then he bought and replayed the game.

I guess Seb just didn't like my Hawke then, cause I never got anywhere other than the Chantry cutscene after his personal quest, guess I never got his approval high/low enough.

Yeah I preordered, just got confused because everyone replied that they had to pay, heh. 

Seb and Merrill are just the two characters I have trouble with getting approval. Merril is usually always rival, because I just can't agree with her mirror obsession and Seb, I don't know why. It's just hard to get approval I think and you get him late in the game, so it's always a game of catch up for me with him.

I agree, fewer companions and fewer romances. If you are going to miss out on the romance you want, at least you'd have a decent story to turn to and not five more deserts to slog through lol I could've loved DAI well enough if it were actually a well-paced game with a compelling narrative... romance or no romance.

I think you're right in that a big portion of their time and resources was spent on learning the engine, so hopefully that won't be an issue next time.

Sebastian should have been available companion in Act 1 and required during the quest to take down the Flint Company assassins.

It's understandable why he didn't participate in the actual game, given the huge target he had on his back, but the clear determination to seek revenge on his parents murderers he demonstrates in the opening cutscene, surely would have made it in-character for him to throw caution to the wind in that moment.

It would even have given Elthina even more reason to rebuke him during the cutscene that follows the quests, that Sebastian not only abandoned his vows but also put his life in danger, all for the sake of petty vengeance.

Being a companion in Act 1 would have given some nice character moments.

You just know he would have objected to the Red Iron sidequest to take out Lord Harimann (since we're no different than the hired goons who murdered his family), something that would become even more poignant in retrospect when he finally learns that Lady Harimann was responsible for the death of his family in Act 2.

Shepherding Wolves would have also been a good quest to bring him on, so he can witness the depths to which Petrice will sink to stir up a religious war between the Chantry and the Qunari in Kirkwall, rather than the facade of deniability she has in Act 2.

I can totally picture Sebastian using the knowledge that they've left the Qun, as an golden opportunity to spread the word of the Maker to the Tal-Vashoth in Blackpower Promise. The rest of the party (especially Varric) would end up yelling at him to stop trying to convert people trying to murder them.

The adorkable flirting between Sebastian and Bethany in the DLC made it even more of a shame they never got to interact in Act 1.

OMG!!! Hi, everyone! I haven't been on BSN in forever, and on a whim decided to check out the old BSN to chat. It was then I found out they were shutting it down permanently today.  I guess it's a good thing I decided to check out BSN when I did.  I read through a few of the old forums I used to chat on and felt pretty sad seeing all the goodbyes. I'm glad people were posting all over the site about this place or I would have never found it. Anyway, just wanted to make my presence known

A tribute.



Thanks for the memories.

By MelissaGT