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Post by Heimdall on Feb 14, 2017 23:04:05 GMT
Thought I'd give this thread a bump and give my thought on the volume now that its over: Overall, I liked it.
I was glad that we got to see more of the backgrounds and families of all four girls and I think they all got decent plot arcs at the end of the day. That being said, I don't think those plot arcs were all handled very well. In part because I think splitting the girl's up turned out to be this volume's Achilles heel. None of them got quite enough time.
I've seen a lot of people very pleased with Weiss' plot arc, but I thought it was incredibly cliche. The controlling patriarch, the manipulative younger sibling, disgust for the superficial aristocracy that she now has an outside view of... not the worse use of those tropes I've ever seen, I've seen it before and done far better. So it didn't interest me very much even if it wasn't a bad direction for the character.
I thought Yang was handled pretty well, but her recovery just seemed a bit too fast. I'm not overly concerned though, it depends on how they handle her in Volume 5. If she has a bit of a breakdown when she comes face to face with Adam again, I'll be satisfied that they haven't made too light of it.
Ruby... well she got some good character development, though I felt like too much of it was really only present in her ending narration. That's all I have to say about her. I am looking forward to seeing what they do with her going forward.
I was actually pretty happy with Blake's part in the story. My only problem with her's applies to the rest as well, the extremely inconsistent timeline. I have no idea when these events happen relative to one another.
Salem and her group were okay. It was interesting to see Cinder so humbled. I was initially not so impressed with them, in chapter 1they struck me as a collection of anime villain tropes. However, Tyrian's voice actor managed to give a genuinely creepy performance and he emerged beyond just being a trope. We'll have to see about the rest.
Of course the highlight of the latter half of the volume was Ren, Nora and the Nuckelavee. Their development was quite welcome, especially for a character usually so reserved as Ren. And I'm glad that ship made its way into canon, because they deserve it. And the Nuckelavee was the first Grimm that managed to be actually intimidating. I was actually hoping the fight would be a bit more difficult, but I was pretty happy with what we got. I liked the Qrow versus Tyrian fight better.
I was disappointed that the overall plot didn't seem to move much. But taking this volume for what it is, one for addressing the emotional wounds of the previous volume finale, I think it works pretty well.
Oh, and I'm calling it now that Professor Lionheart is being blackmailed or intimidated into collaborating with Salem (being our cowardly lion) and Oscar is going to join Haven Academy incognito and eventually join Jaune, Ren and Nora to form team ORNJ.
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Post by lpprince on Apr 26, 2017 22:59:34 GMT
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Post by Sifr on Apr 27, 2017 11:57:03 GMT
When it comes to Vol 5, who else is curious about; What direction they'll take Oscar's character in?
We ended Vol 4 with him having accepted the call and about to meet up with the rest of the characters in Mistral, as well as meeting Qrow in the post-credits scene. Really curious to see where his character goes from here and how he fits into the larger plot. And on a less serious note; It seems that people are already shipping Oscar and Ruby together, despite them not having even met in canon.
Oscar dealing with past-life awkwardness and Ozpin's stellar commentary have made for some hilarious fan comics. Chibi S2 needs to hurry up and get here.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 27, 2017 12:19:37 GMT
Haven't seen a post in this thread for awhile. I really hope they release the Volume 4 soundtrack. I need Armed and Ready in my life. As to Oscar, my current theory is that he'll start attending Haven academy without revealing who he is to the headmaster. And he'll develop his own fighting style, ultimately joining up with what's left of team JNPR to form team ORNJ.
I hope Ozpin keeps up his commentary for awhile, though I expect him to fade away eventually as Oscar comes into his own assuming his role as the 'wizard' or what have you.
Aaaand I'm not touching that ship with a ten foot pole. Its a little creepy when Ozpin and Oscar are kinda becoming the same person.
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Post by jaison1986 on Apr 27, 2017 12:27:21 GMT
Haven't seen a post in this thread for awhile. I really hope they release the Volume 4 soundtrack. I need Armed and Ready in my life. As to Oscar, my current theory is that he'll start attending Haven academy without revealing who he is to the headmaster. And he'll develop his own fighting style, ultimately joining up with what's left of team JNPR to form team ORNJ.
I hope Ozpin keeps up his commentary for awhile, though I expect him to fade away eventually as Oscar comes into his own assuming his role as the 'wizard' or what have you.
Aaaand I'm not touching that ship with a ten foot pole. Its a little creepy when Ozpin and Oscar are kinda becoming the same person. I honestly have no idea why people would ship Oscar and Ruby, considering they never met, and also, there is a certain stigma of trying to pull off a romance with recently introduced characters. It's too easy for it to feel like a shoehorned development.
If they want to give a romance for Ruby it would make a lot more sense for her to end up with Jaune. They have some development together and they are working on the same team now. In fact, they already had some nice moments in volume 4.
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Post by lpprince on Apr 27, 2017 20:45:03 GMT
Honestly, not a fan of Oscar. I get what he's supposed to be, but I'm far more a fan of Ozpin and would rather he be back in full swing.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 28, 2017 10:51:10 GMT
Honestly, not a fan of Oscar. I get what he's supposed to be, but I'm far more a fan of Ozpin and would rather he be back in full swing. I don'tave any strong feelings about him as yet, I want to see how he develops. Anyone have ideas about how Raven will play into volume 5?
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Post by Sifr on Apr 28, 2017 13:31:10 GMT
I really hope they release the Volume 4 soundtrack. I need Armed and Ready in my life. I'd love to see them release an extended version of "Bad Luck Charm". If they want to give a romance for Ruby it would make a lot more sense for her to end up with Jaune. They have some development together and they are working on the same team now. In fact, they already had some nice moments in volume 4. Yeah, I think that Ruby and Jaune would be a nice pairing. I imagine that most people thought that was the ship the show was going to go with early in Vol 1, before it seemed to quickly get sunk.
The two of them have had some nice development this season, such as Ruby quietly watching Jaune working through his grief in "Remembrance", as well as the definite moment they have in "Kuroyuri" when Jaune reassures her. (Which itself, was a nice callback to Ruby reassuring Jaune in Vol 1). Honestly, not a fan of Oscar. I get what he's supposed to be, but I'm far more a fan of Ozpin and would rather he be back in full swing. I'm enjoying what we've seen of Oscar so far, although I'm sure they're going to throw in some curveballs to mix up the pretty standard "Heroes Journey" arc that he's been on so far? I'd also ike to see how he changes and what traits of Ozpin he takes on when they finally do fuse completely.
That being said, I can't take this storyline as seriously as I would, if I hadn't seen Team Four Star's Dragonball Z Abridged first.
If anyone hasn't seen it, after Nail and Kami fuse with Piccolo, rather than "fading away" as they did in the original show, the parody version has them stick around in Piccolo's head to annoy him with snarky commentary.
Ozpin and Oscar's arguments definitely reminded me of this during Vol 4.
Anyone have ideas about how Raven will play into volume 5? I'm going to assume that at some point she's going to run into Yang, since they're both currently in Mistral. I'd really like to see them go into more of Raven's background and why she adopted such a Social Darwinist perspective? How did she develop that mindset when Qrow didn't, when they had the same harsh upbringing? Actually, Raven could definitely use a flashback episode, similar to the one they gave to Cinder in Vol 3. Would be cool to see what Raven was doing during Vol 1-4, whether she knew about Yang's attempt to find her in the Yellow trailer, why was she on the train in Vol 2 and why she was keeping tabs on Qrow in Vol 4?
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 28, 2017 14:09:35 GMT
I'm enjoying what we've seen of Oscar so far, although I'm sure they're going to throw in some curveballs to mix up the pretty standard "Heroes Journey" arc that he's been on so far? I'd also ike to see how he changes and what traits of Ozpin he takes on when they finally do fuse completely.
That being said, I can't take this storyline as seriously as I would, if I hadn't seen Team Four Star's Dragonball Z Abridged first.
If anyone hasn't seen it, after Nail and Kami fuse with Piccolo, rather than "fading away" as they did in the original show, the parody version has them stick around in Piccolo's head to annoy him with snarky commentary.
Ozpin and Oscar's arguments definitely reminded me of this during Vol 4.
I was actually a little dissatisfied that they didn't delve more into how this has been thrust upon Oscar and how little choice he seems to have. I want to know if Ozpin going to Oscar was just random or this was something set up a long time ago. That would be cool. I also saw an interesting fan theory that Raven's Semblance actually lets her foresee future events to some limited extent and her rule about saving people only once is related to that. Another popular theory is that the Spring Maiden is part of her bandit clan and that will become a point of contention. I'm a little worried though, Volume 4 needed another few episodes to fully flesh out and play out all of its storylines. I hope they add more episodes to follow these threads.
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Post by Sifr on Apr 28, 2017 14:25:43 GMT
I kinda like the idea of the Spring Maiden being part of Raven's bandits, would give her more depth if we found out that was the real reason she refused to help Qrow find her. She already knew who it was and wanted to protect her own people.
Besides, it's not like Cinder hasn't shown us already that you don't have to be a good person to become a Maiden. We have no reason to assume that the Maidens must automatically be good people and on the side of the heroes.
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Post by lpprince on May 25, 2017 21:03:08 GMT
Its getting hotter around here so
I swear I can just share whatever the fuck RWBY thing this person makes
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Post by Galactic Runner on Jul 17, 2017 23:18:47 GMT
IT'S HAPPENING, GUYS!!
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Post by Heimdall on Jul 18, 2017 12:36:22 GMT
Interesting, This is also happening
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Post by Sifr on Jul 21, 2017 13:44:59 GMT
We need to see more of Winter, although doomsayers are already speculating whether her line was foreboding.
We were spared any major character deaths in Vol 4, but that was a smart move on the writer's part, because both the characters and the audience needed some reprieve after the stakes were raised in Vol 3. Not sure if this will last in to Vol 5 however.
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Post by Sifr on Jul 24, 2017 15:42:29 GMT
I know Chibi is non-canon, but it does offer another reason for why Tai doesn't like Qrow much.
Back when they were at Beacon together, it can't have been easy to get dates when you have Qrow as your wingman. Not only does he attract more attention by being effortlessly cool, but his semblance will instantly jinx any of your own attempts to impress women.
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Post by Galactic Runner on Jul 24, 2017 18:17:47 GMT
I know Chibi is non-canon, but it does offer another reason for why Tai doesn't like Qrow much. Back when they were at Beacon together, it can't have been easy to get dates when you have Qrow as your wingman. Not only does he attract more attention by being effortlessly cool, but his semblance will instantly jinx any of your own attempts to impress women. Speaking of which, I literally cannot wait for the moment when Summer Rose turns out to be alive and we get a hilariously awkward family reunion between Tai and his baby mamas, all while Ruby and Yang try to drift away in embarrassment. XD
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Post by Bronztrooper on Sept 8, 2017 2:19:52 GMT
Anyone want to talk about the Blake Short that dropped a few days ago?
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Post by Sifr on Sept 9, 2017 23:15:58 GMT
Anyone want to talk about the Blake Short that dropped a few days ago? It was cool to find out more about Ilia and how she ended up in the White Fang. Both her powers and backstory reminded me a lot of Mystique's arc in X-Men: First Class, since they share the same growing resentment at being forced to pass for human that leads them to eventually defect to the villain's side. That being said, despite being aligned with the more extremist White Fang, it seems that Ilia's former friendship with Blake is making her reluctant to actively engage her. She's had multiple chances to attack her and each time has elected to retreat instead of fight. Makes me wonder if they'll be able to turn her to their side or make her into a double-agent? I do wish we'd gotten something with Adam though. For all his importance in Blake's past, we still barely know anything about him.
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Post by Heimdall on Sept 10, 2017 11:44:10 GMT
Anyone want to talk about the Blake Short that dropped a few days ago? It was good, and did it seem to anyone else that the lighting and animation quality has stepped up? The bit of Menagerie we saw also looks much better than what we saw in volume 4. I kinda wonder if one of the points of volume 4 was to give the team a chance to master the tools of the new engine before spending a lot of time in big locations like Mystral: I'm also now expecting the story of volume 5 to be split between Ruby, Yang, and Weiss in Mystral and Blake in Menagerie. If Blake reunited with them his volume, I suspect it won't happen until the end of the volume.
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Post by Sifr on Oct 23, 2017 22:38:27 GMT
Volume 5 is now out. And y'know, I can't blame Qrow for getting pass-out drunk. After the Fall of Beacon, nearly dying, Lionheart being unhelpful, combined with his constant bad luck... it's fair to say that Qrow has really needed a win for a long time now. With all the people in Remnant, can you imagine how impossible the task of finding Oz's next incarnation actually was? Even knowing about the soul transfer thing and perhaps arranging where to meet in the worst case scenario, Qrow still had no idea who he was actually meant to look for? Then after all those months of fruitless searching, to have that person walk right up to him in a bar and utter their trust password... damn right he'd want to celebrate! Although one can only imagine how long Oscar spent at that bar before he finally managed to get Qrow to head home, all while having Oz nattering away in his ear. Now he's got to deal with people he remembers (but has never met), along with trying to explain this whole reincarnation thing to everyone (when he's only just figuring it out). Good luck Oscar, you're gonna need it, mate.
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Post by Bronztrooper on Oct 26, 2017 8:12:17 GMT
Any thoughts about Episode 2?
Considering what happened, I'm surprised no one has commented on it yet.
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Post by Sifr on Oct 26, 2017 11:51:16 GMT
For non-First Members it comes out a week later, so not everyone will have seen Ep 2 yet.
Actually that's a good reminder to everyone to put any discussion of the latest episode under spoiler tags, since not everyone will have seen it if they're not First Members or wait until it's released officially on Youtube.
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Post by Sifr on Oct 27, 2017 21:33:08 GMT
Dammit Lindsay, I cannot unhear the "reading comics" line in Ep 1 as anything other than a euphemism after this; Especially with the running gag about Ruby enjoying Blake's smutty novels in Chibi. Might need some brain bleach.
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