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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 28, 2017 2:21:05 GMT
Do remember the discussion is aimed towards people who spend their time here hating on the game and wanting it to fail. Drawing entertainment from negativity is unhealthy. All there is to it. So aren't you disturbed by being entertained by Bioware's violent games? Shouldn't you be playing a nice game of cards instead or engaging in a sport? Pfft we all enjoy shooting people for the greater good.
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Post by annerogers on Mar 28, 2017 2:27:48 GMT
So aren't you disturbed by being entertained by Bioware's violent games? Shouldn't you be playing a nice game of cards instead or engaging in a sport? Pfft we all enjoy shooting people for the greater good. Whose greater good? The Initiative? "Invade another galaxy and take their stuff! It's cool, they were one-dimensional ciphers anyway!".
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 28, 2017 2:28:18 GMT
Pfft we all enjoy shooting people for the greater good. Whose greater good? The Initiative? "Invade another galaxy and take their stuff! It's cool, they were one-dimensional ciphers anyway!". Lol you got me there. Survival I guess? Gotta stop those ev0l kett
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Mar 28, 2017 2:36:40 GMT
Of course not. You can dislike the game and point out why. Perhaps you like it but want to talk about what could be better. Presumably if you aren't a masochist, you'd move on to something you do enjoy. Cause you know. Games are for entertainment. Is this difficult to understand? And what about those who find discussion on this board more entertaining than the game itself? That's why I'm here! It's okay. It's good to hear from the other side and I agree with Lebanese Dude... we can all get laid. Take it easy. It's unofficial forums. No one important is watching.
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Post by solomace on Mar 28, 2017 2:36:53 GMT
*chuckle* k I'll go slow. My stance is exclusively about people who spend their time talking about how bad the game is and wanting it to fail, as the topic indicates. I believe they are sad people who draw entertainment and satisfaction from negativity. I offered advice in that they should draw enjoyment from things that are satisfying. I gave examples of alternate forms of satisfaction like having a job or getting laid. I hope I outlined it enough. I understand that reading comprehension is a bit short around here sometimes. And again with the insults. You just cannot give an opinion without putting a couple in eh. It must really be unhealthy to be sitting on that high horse of yours. And once again, stop with the spin and backtracking. So, on topic and I think I've said it before. If the game doesn't fail, EA/Bioware will think everything is great just like UBIsoft does when they bring out their buggy, poor games or the next call of duty, because people like yourself who are content with the game which isn't an issue liking the game, are happy to keep on buying the next version. Why would EA, someone who just want to monetize every game by having a way to sell in game credits, want to improve, if people like you and the rest of the defenders just accept everything and blot out all the negativity and even worse like your trying to do, stop people from posting negative things. So how does a gaming company/publisher know when people aren't really happy? By the game not selling to their projections. And how does that happen, when people like me don't buy it. You ever heard of tough love? That's what's needed around here. Demanding more for your pound/dollar/euro etc. Do you know what's even more laughable, forget the content, forget the facial animations, forget the dialogue, why are people happy to spend money on an obviously buggy rushed game? Not just this game but any game? And yes, there was a time when games came out bug free or maybe a couple of bugs. Now we have broken systems, animation but people like you just say fine, it will be patched. You do know that you are the consumer and can demand more? Maybe you don't.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 28, 2017 2:41:35 GMT
Lol
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Mar 28, 2017 2:43:19 GMT
Lebanese Dude, I see your allergic to hyperbole... Well, take some benadryl because I want to unleash some more bad hyperbole-filled fan fiction.
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Post by solomace on Mar 28, 2017 2:43:57 GMT
And what about those who find discussion on this board more entertaining than the game itself? That's why I'm here! It's okay. It's good to hear from the other side and I agree with Lebanese Dude... we can all get laid. Take it easy. It's unofficial forums. No one important is watching. Glad to see you're open to both sides. Unfortunately I couldn't agree with anyone who's only defense is either veiled or open insults. Insults with some good debate thrown in, I can handle and enjoy. Insults because they either don't have the intelligence for a debate, don't really have an opinion or even worse, try to change what they said, well, I gotta say... *Edited because it was mean to clump everyone in the same bracket and was uncalled for*
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Post by Madflavor on Mar 28, 2017 2:47:40 GMT
On one hand ME:A should fail, because EA/Bioware needs a harsh lesson on how they need to properly handle this franchise. On the other hand, due to EA's mentality, if ME:A fails, it would probably mean the end of Mass Effect, which is why I don't want it to fail, at least commercially. It'll probably sell just enough to make them a profit, but not what they were hoping for. So with the disappointing sales in combination with the mixed reception, hopefully that's enough of a warning to EA/Bioware to course correct.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 28, 2017 2:48:34 GMT
Lol this guy
Spends an inordinate amount of time concern trolling about insults only to make an implication that people who enjoy MEA are "of low caliber"
This is rich
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Post by solomace on Mar 28, 2017 2:51:25 GMT
Snappy comeback. I think we all know now though mate.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 28, 2017 2:52:51 GMT
Snappy comeback. I think we all know now though mate. Lol
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Post by solomace on Mar 28, 2017 2:57:04 GMT
Lol this guy Spends an inordinate amount of time concern trolling about insults only to make an implication that people who enjoy MEA are "of low caliber" This is rich Troll? Lol. Nice try. And you know what, on re reading yes you are correct, it was a mean thing to say and thus I do take it back about low caliber. As to inordinate amount of time trolling can I refer you back to you initial insult " Because they're sad people with sad lives who need to find a job or get laid"? Who's the real troll I wonder... My advice to you mate is to stop responding or at the very least stop being a foolish in your responses when they can be leveled right back at you.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Mar 28, 2017 2:58:03 GMT
Remember when Inquisition came out? The PC port was incomplete as far as controls and wonky camera. It took three months for me to play the game because I really couldn't get past the first boss scene due to the camera not allowing me to see the rift. It was three months before I could play the game beyond the first boss (the freaking opening credits) and I had preordered EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING. I expected more feedback from Bioware and instead I got jumped on by fanboys for raising issues. All of the problems I personally had with Inquisition are still present from the few hours I got on my buddies rig. The game is a great third person shooter... no doubt. However, I want a Bioware-quality RPG. I guess you can't have both yet. I'm not doubting Bioware will get it right. After all, Frostbite is super beautiful and Bioware still knows how to create immersive environments. It's all of the other stuff that makes a great RPG and Bioware isn't at the same level anymore and that shouldn't have anything to do with any engine. I believe once both studios sit down and figure out what is the actual direction they want to head down, we're all going to be onboard. It's the dishonesty, the misleading stuff (as I interpret it) that has broken my heart. There is no prosthetic for passion and soul. I hope all the bad press does it what I hope it will do: Re-ignite that passion and soul and see the franchises through. Milk it for all you want, but just put that same passion and soul like Origins and Mass Effect 2. It may have to come in bits and pieces, but little mouthfuls at a time is better than a big mess.
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Post by bardox on Mar 28, 2017 2:59:37 GMT
I refuse to recognize Andromeda as a Mass Effect game. I love the combat, but everything else is pure shit. The faces of the characters largely look like they have some form of downs syndrome. The characters have no depth nor do you (or at least I) get any real interest in wanting to get to know them. The movement out of combat is horrendous. Mapping glitches alone will make one hate the game. The most maddening thing to me is the amount of money they spent making the game. $40 million... Where the hell did it go?? Even ME2 is better than this brain fart. For the story and character aspect, me1/2/3 and DA:O/2/I are vastly superior. This is not a Mass Effect game. It is a complete waste of money.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 28, 2017 3:00:25 GMT
Lol this guy Spends an inordinate amount of time concern trolling about insults only to make an implication that people who enjoy MEA are "of low caliber" This is rich Troll? Lol. Nice try. And you know what, on re reading yes you are correct, it was a mean thing to say and thus I do take it back about low caliber. As to inordinate amount of time trolling can I refer you back to you initial insult about sad people and getting laid? Who's the real troll I wonder... My advise to you mate is to stop responding or at the very least stop being a foolish in your responses when they can be leveled right back at you. Lol
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Post by ShadowAngel on Mar 28, 2017 3:03:20 GMT
So, on topic and I think I've said it before. If the game doesn't fail, EA/Bioware will think everything is great just like UBIsoft does when they bring out their buggy, poor games or the next call of duty, because people like yourself who are content with the game which isn't an issue liking the game, are happy to keep on buying the next version. Why would EA, someone who just want to monetize every game by having a way to sell in game credits, want to improve, if people like you and the rest of the defenders just accept everything and blot out all the negativity and even worse like your trying to do, stop people from posting negative things. So how does a gaming company/publisher know when people aren't really happy? By the game not selling to their projections. And how does that happen, when people like me don't buy it. You ever heard of tough love? That's what's needed around here. Demanding more for your pound/dollar/euro etc. Do you know what's even more laughable, forget the content, forget the facial animations, forget the dialogue, why are people happy to spend money on an obviously buggy rushed game? Not just this game but any game? And yes, there was a time when games came out bug free or maybe a couple of bugs. Now we have broken systems, animation but people like you just say fine, it will be patched. You do know that you are the consumer and can demand more? Maybe you don't. I can tell you dropping sales means nothing to publishers or devs. Halo for example has dropped in sales by 7+ million the last ten years, each game literally regressing game by game by game. Call of duty has as well but at a slower pace. Point being what makes you think if EA/bioware lose money that they'd just stop what people dislike? It's an honest question cuz much of the industry really don't give a damn. I could give more examples as well, heck you even mentioned Ubisoft who have kissed sales yet everything stays the same yes? moving on: my own personal issue is people asking bioware to scrap the open world esq(cuz it's nkt a true open world) style set on exploration, and then hearing those people say this isn't what people wanted when that's entirely false, I've wanted it ever since ME2 went away from that when ME1 did have that. It's quite insulting to have people say I'm accepting mediocrity over a preference of style when it comes to open world esq or corridor style maps with little to no exploration. I then even have seen some say andromeda is more if a shooter, yet they ignore the puzzles, the character interactions(which is under achieving this game), the exploration it offers, I honesty don't see it as more of a shooter but more of an rog, and that's something people can't change my mind on regardless if they like it or not. My point is I dislike people condemning others over a style preference, which you could blame bioware for it being how they've done both styles twice now so you then get people liking one over the other. i can 110% understand you when it comes to people downplaying bad animations, the 100s of bugs (and some have pissed me (off), the so-so story (some would say it outright sucks, I say it's worse than what I expected but still better than most story games out there), poor UI system, a dialogue system that makes me miss the original, I could go on. I understand the games faults, but I still enjoy it and just can't and people condemning others for that, they're labeled as people who accept mediocrity when to me we just have a more open mind and can tolerate more, I still accept and full well know the flaws and cults the game carries. I wanted this game to be the best, sadly it isn't. truth be told, there is proof even devs who do fine and get great sales still put in effort to make the next game better, look at CD red as one example, old bioware during their hey days, halo and CoD when they first started out. so I don't see why you'd think the only way a dev would improve is by tanking their sales/profits, I mean yea it might work for the stubborn devs, but as I said above, there's many prime examples where that doesn't do anything. A dev will only change if they see it as an isssue, and even then some of these guys lose millions yet they aren't intimidated by the slightest. I still understand your point though.
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Post by solomace on Mar 28, 2017 3:04:22 GMT
Troll? Lol. Nice try. And you know what, on re reading yes you are correct, it was a mean thing to say and thus I do take it back about low caliber. As to inordinate amount of time trolling can I refer you back to you initial insult about sad people and getting laid? Who's the real troll I wonder... My advise to you mate is to stop responding or at the very least stop being a foolish in your responses when they can be leveled right back at you. Lol Ahh, the smell of victory. Lol = That your way of saying stitch this Jimmy
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 28, 2017 3:05:03 GMT
Remember when Inquisition came out? The PC port was incomplete as far as controls and wonky camera. It took three months for me to play the game because I really couldn't get past the first boss scene due to the camera not allowing me to see the rift. It was three months before I could play the game beyond the first boss (the freaking opening credits) and I had preordered EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING. I expected more feedback from Bioware and instead I got jumped on by fanboys for raising issues. All of the problems I personally had with Inquisition are still present from the few hours I got on my buddies rig. The game is a great third person shooter... no doubt. However, I want a Bioware-quality RPG. I guess you can't have both yet. I'm not doubting Bioware will get it right. After all, Frostbite is super beautiful and Bioware still knows how to create immersive environments. It's all of the other stuff that makes a great RPG and Bioware isn't at the same level anymore and that shouldn't have anything to do with any engine. I believe once both studios sit down and figure out what is the actual direction they want to head down, we're all going to be onboard. It's the dishonesty, the misleading stuff (as I interpret it) that has broken my heart. There is no prosthetic for passion and soul. I hope all the bad press does it what I hope it will do: Re-ignite that passion and soul and see the franchises through. Milk it for all you want, but just put that same passion and soul like Origins and Mass Effect 2. It may have to come in bits and pieces, but little mouthfuls at a time is better than a big mess. Where is the hyperbole? I'm disappointed. Although MEA is still a BioWare game which is of good quality in terms of structure. To me it's a hybrid of ME1 and ME3. Perhaps you just dislike the exploration aspect. BioWare has been heading in that direction. Hopefully they'll address the most outstanding issues ASAP. I considered waiting for the next patch for the presumed fix to the save game issue. I ended up changing my build to be less risky. Probably a smart idea as a fresh character on Insanity...
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 28, 2017 3:05:23 GMT
Ahh, the smell of victory. Lol = That your way of saying stitch this Jimmy Lol
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Mar 28, 2017 3:10:35 GMT
On one hand ME:A should fail, because EA/Bioware needs a harsh lesson on how they need to properly handle this franchise. On the other hand, due to EA's mentality, if ME:A fails, it would probably mean the end of Mass Effect, which is why I don't want it to fail, at least commercially. It'll probably sell just enough to make them a profit, but not what they were hoping for. So with the disappointing sales in combination with the mixed reception, hopefully that's enough of a warning to EA/Bioware to course correct. I know from local reaction here is that physical copies are abundant, but really? You can download it now (right? PSN and MS both have online stores? I'm a PC-elitist) I think it's going to be successful regardless but how long will the luster last? Inquisition wasn't even finished being patched up for PC controls when the Witcher 3 came out. I haven't gone back to the Inquisition since my initial play through that was completed. I don't own the DLCs to it. I'm having some fun playing Fallout 4 (meh) and replaying Witcher 3. I see the same thing happening with Andromeda and the media hype train (you know, everyone is coming out from their basements and doing these reviews for clicks....) is going to cost Bioware manpower. EA will demand it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 3:13:56 GMT
I think that some people still think they can convince (i.e. push/force) Bioware into redoing ME3 to change the endings. (See other thread on this forum proposing this exact thing.)
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Post by solomace on Mar 28, 2017 3:14:55 GMT
So, on topic and I think I've said it before. If the game doesn't fail, EA/Bioware will think everything is great just like UBIsoft does when they bring out their buggy, poor games or the next call of duty, because people like yourself who are content with the game which isn't an issue liking the game, are happy to keep on buying the next version. Why would EA, someone who just want to monetize every game by having a way to sell in game credits, want to improve, if people like you and the rest of the defenders just accept everything and blot out all the negativity and even worse like your trying to do, stop people from posting negative things. So how does a gaming company/publisher know when people aren't really happy? By the game not selling to their projections. And how does that happen, when people like me don't buy it. You ever heard of tough love? That's what's needed around here. Demanding more for your pound/dollar/euro etc. Do you know what's even more laughable, forget the content, forget the facial animations, forget the dialogue, why are people happy to spend money on an obviously buggy rushed game? Not just this game but any game? And yes, there was a time when games came out bug free or maybe a couple of bugs. Now we have broken systems, animation but people like you just say fine, it will be patched. You do know that you are the consumer and can demand more? Maybe you don't. I can tell you dropping sales means nothing to publishers or devs. Halo for example has dropped in sales by 7+ million the last ten years, each game literally regressing game by game by game. Call of duty has as well but at a slower pace. Point being what makes you think if EA/bioware lose money that they'd just stop what people dislike? It's an honest question cuz much of the industry really don't give a damn. I could give more examples as well, heck you even mentioned Ubisoft who have kissed sales yet everything stays the same yes? moving on: my own personal issue is people asking bioware to scrap the open world esq(cuz it's nkt a true open world) style set on exploration, and then hearing those people say this isn't what people wanted when that's entirely false, I've wanted it ever since ME2 went away from that when ME1 did have that. It's quite insulting to have people say I'm accepting mediocrity over a preference of style when it comes to open world esq or corridor style maps with little to no exploration. I then even have seen some say andromeda is more if a shooter, yet they ignore the puzzles, the character interactions(which is under achieving this game), the exploration it offers, I honesty don't see it as more of a shooter but more of an rog, and that's something people can't change my mind on regardless if they like it or not. My point is I dislike people condemning others over a style preference, which you could blame bioware for it being how they've done both styles twice now so you then get people liking one over the other. i can 110% understand you when it comes to people downplaying bad animations, the 100s of bugs (and some have pissed me (off), the so-so story (some would say it outright sucks, I say it's worse than what I expected but still better than most story games out there), poor UI system, a dialogue system that makes me miss the original, I could go on. I understand the games faults, but I still enjoy it and just can't and people condemning others for that, they're labeled as people who accept mediocrity when to me we just have a more open mind and can tolerate more, I still accept and full well know the flaws and cults the game carries. I wanted this game to be the best, sadly it isn't. truth be told, there is proof even devs who do fine and get great sales still put in effort to make the next game better, look at CD red as one example, old bioware during their hey days, halo and CoD when they first started out. so I don't see why you'd think the only way a dev would improve is by tanking their sales/profits, I mean yea it might work for the stubborn devs, but as I said above, there's many prime examples where that doesn't do anything. A dev will only change if they see it as an isssue, and even then some of these guys lose millions yet they aren't intimidated by the slightest. I still understand your point though. Nice post. I'm not of the opinion that we won't get an ME2 regardless of how this game sells, but I am of the opinion that blind loyalty and excepting substandard or a poor product tells the Devs/publishers everything is a okay so need need to improve. I'm sorry, but a dropping in sales does have a big effect on publishers more than Devs. Just because a game doesn't sell well doesn't mean they're thinking well it didn't sell well so we will do the same as the we did before in the next version. Nope, I think you will find they tend to find out what was wrong with that version and at least try to fix it for the next. Not always, but even UBI and Call of Dutys cannot go on being meh as more and more fans are saying no. Isn't this what were finding out with MEA? DA2 was pants. Sold poorly yet they still made DAI an improvement but maybe not as good as it should be however it sold buckets full. MEA may sell loads but I doubt it will sell to EAs projections. Notice how there's no season pass for this game? I find it strange. Does it mean they knew before going in that maybe it wasn't going to be received as good as they wanted? Season pass is a great way for them to make even more money from those people who will blindly buy anything of a certain franchise.
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Post by solomace on Mar 28, 2017 3:16:46 GMT
General announcement: Enough with the insults please. If you have trouble getting along with another poster, either use the block option or take the fight to PM. Thank you. Understood. Sorry...
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