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Post by canuckgamer on Mar 27, 2017 19:19:06 GMT
Well 77 hours and 98% complete which means its time to discuss whats coming next.
Would love to hear what others have to say on this topic but for now here are my initial thoughts.
I expect three major DLC’s which is in line with past Bioware titles. .
We are going to see the Quarian Ark, probably in the June/July time frame in conjunction with the release of the next Mass Effect novel Annihilation (I suspect Annihalation refers to what is happening in the Milky Way Galaxy around the time the Ark leaves and the potential panic it will cause in Andromeda). Real potential there, because each of the species aboard is going to have unique needs and challenges. I also suspect based on how things ended you will also have a side mission to help set up Meridian as an actual colony as part of this expansion. 3 characters you are introduced to at the end of the Chapter seem like the likely quest givers. This is could be solid post game content.
The second DLC might be a toss off with a focus on social content like the Citadel expansion in ME:3. It could have you delve more into the Remnant or add a new character. I don’t see it touching any of the major points above. Though the Turian, Salarian and Asari still don't have their capital's in Andromeda so maybe something along those lines. This could likely come out around November. It will come out with the Novel Initiation. The novel's name though suggests a number of other possibilities so who knows.
The third DLC which probably won’t come out for close to a year, I expect to be similar to Arrival in ME:2. It is going to lay some foundation for the next game. This is the one where we may see them deal with your Mom. She is a powerful story telling device because she is bound to have a lot more information about the Benefactor or the lead up to the Initiative both through her time with Alec and her role in creating the SAM implants.
Sequels There is going to be a sequel to this game. A great article (link below) talked to the developer who mentioned a lot of the stuff above being part of the meta-story for the saga and it makes a lot of sense. I see two ways a sequel could play out:
Option 1: The Ryder Continuity
The next game will take place 5-10 years after the events of ME:A. This is about the amount of time required for you to see the full consequences of the decisions you made in ME:A. Right now the colonists are heavily focused on building their settlements and getting established. Members of your team are already being offered new jobs, and will likely disperse. This is also likely the time it will take for all the colonists to be unfrozen and settled and for the hidden conspiracy at the heart of the Initiative to take form. It also gives 10 years for Meridian to be researched and for an efficient travel technology to be discovered which will give them easy access to other parts of the massive Andromeda Galaxy ala Mass Effect Relay. The Ryder twins are in their early to mid 20’s so 10 years won’t do much. It will give players a chance to visit the colonies they founded, and see Andromeda take shape. Given that Heleus Cluster was basically an artificial construct including all life, it gives the Bioware the chance to create some real aliens (I for one would love to see them encounter a primitive race and all the moral decisions that would involve). Some of his companions will be available, others (Vetra probably, Cora, Gill, and maybe even Liam) won’t be available so it will be time for some new companions. The others will appear.
Still not really a trilogy, as it does have the same characters but if each story is stand alone with interwoven elements then its not really a trilogy.
Option 2: The future.
Let me be honest, I love my Ryder. But If you want to really break the mold Bioware could really shake things up. Move 30 years (or more) into the future. My favorite companion makes this work, SAM. The introduction of SAM and his abilities means he can share information and memories with players. To me he is the key plot device that gives Bioware a LOT of options. In this vision, the Ryders become NPC’s and you play as a Heleus Born citizen. You have entered the Pathfinder program out of awe of the stories you grew up with in school. The program isn’t as active as it once was with Meridian established and the colonies built and no one wanting to look past the Heleus Cluster. The Ryders could be your trainers or could be hero’s that disappeared. The fund thing with this approach is that you could potentially have an opportunity to play as a non-human (I totally get from a logical standpoint why you always play as a human but just saying it would be cool) but playing as an Asair, Turian, Salarian or even Krogan Pathfinder would be cool. You get to see what Ryder helped build, meet the original companions who are now these heroic figures. Characters like Drack and PeeBee and Lexi could join you because of their long life spans, others would not be an option but could still be interacted with.
In both options I focus on them moving into the future. Throughout my play through I noticed a lot of veiled references to the future, and possible future events. In some cases they emphasized actual time periods being 5, 10, 30 years. I felt like their was a foreshadowing element that required the next game to happen father down the road than the previous series. With SAM they could go 100, 500, or even 1000 years in the future and still create linkages so its pretty cool tool but I suspect we are looking at 5, 10, 30 years.
One way or another I expect CERBERUS to play a role. I loved how they handled Cerberus and the "Benefactor" in this game. Just like in ME1 it was just mentioned or alluded to. The Jian Garson murder mystery reminded me of the Admiral in ME1 who sent you on quests and got murdered by Cerberus. I still think given the lack of family background that Cora is going to have a relationship to Illusive Man. Now the Benefactor could be a Cerberus agent, a Illusive Man clone, or something like that. Given most of the people in MEA are still frozen it makes sense the conspirators haven't played a bigger role. I also suspect Director Addison may be more involved with them.....
Things I would like to see in future games: 1.) I liked the open world, but you could scale them down slightly and increase the number. Plus have more one off areas. 2.) I love the scenes when you fly from planet to planet BUT do more to reward players. Like in the original maybe have a few side quests hidden on random worlds, like dealing with a pirate who is attacking traders (Andromeda Viability points). 3.) The whole colonization concept was awesome. It dragged a bit on Eos because of to many unrelated side quests. Eladeen to me seemed to hit the right note (I also skipped the scan this thing at those ruins missions on this planet). The Water smuggler, Krogan, all of it played together well. I loved this aspect, if this continues great. 4.) More diverse Alien races (the Angara made total sense within the concept they had developed for the Heleus Cluster but I think we can be more diverse in the rest of Andromeda). Have some who are technologically advance but throw in one that is relatively primitive. Like I said ME:A did its job. It laid a pretty interesting foundation which opens itself to many different possibilities to move forward.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 19:55:43 GMT
77 hours? Well, I thought it would take at least one hundred. But that's fine as well, I hope. I, for one, want them to continue Ryder's story. I don't want to play as the sibling next game, please let us continue with Pathfinder Ryder, Bioware! And yes, we need to explore the galaxy. I hope we just don't get stuck for clusters in each game. Final DLC to Andromeda, we find a Remnant mass relay.
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Post by canuckgamer on Mar 28, 2017 17:34:04 GMT
77 hours? Well, I thought it would take at least one hundred. But that's fine as well, I hope. I, for one, want them to continue Ryder's story. I don't want to play as the sibling next game, please let us continue with Pathfinder Ryder, Bioware! And yes, we need to explore the galaxy. I hope we just don't get stuck for clusters in each game. Final DLC to Andromeda, we find a Remnant mass relay. Got to be honest, I love me my Ryders. (I could do without playing as my sibling as well during the game). I kinda like the idea of moving ahead 5-10 years. You would get to see the development of the colonies and all of your work from the first game. The Ryders would be a little older. I 100% agree would like to see the whole galaxy in the next game rather than a contained cluster (within reason, there is like 1 trillion stars in the Andromeda Galaxy.....lol) Final DLC, yah I can totally see that being a part of it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 19:53:08 GMT
As much as I enjoy Andromeda, I miss the Milky Way. There is so much stuff that can be happening now there after those 600 years, that no matter which ending ME3 might have had as canon, its effect must have "mitigated" after such a long time (except maybe Synthesis, but even here they could avoid problems with proper explanation why its effects no longer last ect).
I just have this nostalgia that kinda keeps me from fully diving into ME:A.
Even looking at the turian race dossier in the ME:A codex made a tear in my eye when I saw Garrus photo as "icon" for turian race in the codex... knowing that he is long dead now breaks my balls...
If it were up to me - ME:A DLCs would expand on how we establish contact back with the Milky Way and ME:A2 is where we go back to the Milky Way (I'm taking sweet Vetra with me there!). We cannot assume every Mass Effect game now will be set in Andromeda... Mass Effect was always about the Milky Way and its affairs and I hope ME:A is existing as a "detox" after ME3 ending, so we may get a bridge back to the Milky Way.
Don't get me wrong here - I like ME:A and I think it's GOOD that is exists. It's just that the theme of ME:A is "wide as an ocean" with that exploration, that even a big team cannot fill it with so many interesting characters like we used to have in ME1-3.
So the way I see it OP is similar to your's: ME:A is basically laying the ground work for going back to the Milky Way (or establishing connection with the Milky Way, so that in the next game we get to play as those "Milkies" who received the signal from Andromeda Initiative and try to get in touch with them).
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 28, 2017 20:48:04 GMT
As much as I enjoy Andromeda, I miss the Milky Way. There is so much stuff that can be happening now there after those 600 years, that no matter which ending ME3 might have had as canon, its effect must have "mitigated" after such a long time (except maybe Synthesis, but even here they could avoid problems with proper explanation why its effects no longer last ect). I just have this nostalgia that kinda keeps me from fully diving into ME:A. Even looking at the turian race dossier in the ME:A codex made a tear in my eye when I saw Garrus photo as "icon" for turian race in the codex... knowing that he is long dead now breaks my balls... If it were up to me - ME:A DLCs would expand on how we establish contact back with the Milky Way and ME:A2 is where we go back to the Milky Way (I'm taking sweet Vetra with me there!). We cannot assume every Mass Effect game now will be set in Andromeda... Mass Effect was always about the Milky Way and its affairs and I hope ME:A is existing as a "detox" after ME3 ending, so we may get a bridge back to the Milky Way. Don't get me wrong here - I like ME:A and I think it's GOOD that is exists. It's just that the theme of ME:A is "wide as an ocean" with that exploration, that even a big team cannot fill it with so many interesting characters like we used to have in ME1-3. So the way I see it OP is similar to your's: ME:A is basically laying the ground work for going back to the Milky Way (or establishing connection with the Milky Way, so that in the next game we get to play as those "Milkies" who received the signal from Andromeda Initiative and try to get in touch with them). Eh, I'm not as nostalgic as you but... What I'd want: -DLC that is the optional (fan-oriented) bridging back to the Milky Way while leading into continued Andromedan stories, now that the fresh start/restart for the oldies and newbies is done. -Next game involves the Milky Way but used in effort to recognize some continued importance and sometimes focus, Heleus as our base but not the focus anymore, and we expand through more of Andromeda with faster travel tech, continuing the theme of exploration but in different ways and extents (perhaps exploring secrets more than exploring new worlds). We still recognize Milky Way as an important factor but not the center, Heleus as the new center but no longer content focus, and get to still see new things in new perspectives. -Maybe introduction of stranger tech at times, that implies something greater than the foundation elements of series or even the gradual exploration and advancement. I can largely 'buy into' the idea of this game, and I have for years before release of it, but if they hoped that this means I'd mostly let go of the trilogy, Bioware is mistaken, I guess.
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Post by ulic3190 on Mar 29, 2017 19:37:33 GMT
How about the elephant in the room that has not yet been mentioned.... Who are the aliens who created meridian... why did they fill it with life... including an entire new species designed to thrive in the helius cluster. Well think about what a farmer does ... he plants the seeds waits for things to grow in their own time and when the time is right ... the gathering begins.... This now brings a massive moral problem as they created life with their machines then surely they deserve to be able to process them for food... fuel..etc ...therefore completely justified in culling the system ... but WAIT!!! Something unforeseen has happened, the system or "garden" of the creators has been settled by a diverse populace from the milky way, not only that but these technically inferior species are also responsible for FIXING the garden as the weeds or "Scourge" would have decimated it. This has made the initiative the caretakers of the garden and as such did they not earn a say in this debate? What once was a clear cut case of this is my garden has become clouded, as now there is no way to gather in the fruit of their labours without killing and uprooting the members of the initiatve. Some among the aliens will no doubt scream that this is their garden and nothing else matters they are the creators and therefore gods to the angara, while others will of course take the position that they are not gods of the initiative and have no right to kill this new life they have found and make the cluster a .... ( just for a word picture) wild life preserve. The fact that some among us can even use their own technology is astonishing there is a space for collaboration and maybe just maybe even greater exchanges of knowledge and advancement... or a new and powerful enemy or .... both! Who the hell knows ... I mean maybe they may like the taste of the Kett better SO MUCH SCOPE!
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Post by Fogg on Mar 29, 2017 20:09:34 GMT
I'm thinking a DLC about the Benefactor (and Cora still being TIM's daughter).
Then I'd like a DLC that takes place on a undiscovered planet, where you'll meet members of a primitive society who think Drack is a god. Help them fight big creatures and make sure they'll go on to become a civilzation someday, with only myths about the men from the sky. One of them might go along on the Tempest.
And a new squadmate DLC.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 20:19:53 GMT
I'm thinking a DLC about the Benefactor (and Cora still being TIM's daughter). Then I'd like a DLC that takes place on a undiscovered planet, where you'll meet members of a primitive society who think Drack is a god. Help them fight big creatures and make sure they'll go on to become a civilzation someday, with only myths about the men from the sky. One of them might go along on the Tempest. And a new squadmate DLC. I never knew how much I wanted this... Make it happen pls bioware
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Post by Fogg on Mar 29, 2017 20:22:46 GMT
I'm thinking a DLC about the Benefactor (and Cora still being TIM's daughter). Then I'd like a DLC that takes place on a undiscovered planet, where you'll meet members of a primitive society who think Drack is a god. Help them fight big creatures and make sure they'll go on to become a civilzation someday, with only myths about the men from the sky. One of them might go along on the Tempest. And a new squadmate DLC. I never knew how much I wanted this... Make it happen pls bioware I expected more of these 'Star Trek episodes' to happen in the main game. Now I hope they'll show up as DLC.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 20:27:29 GMT
Doesn't quarian ark have 5 species on it plus a threatening signal? That is a huge dlc I think it should either like trespasser and an ending dlc or a whole new game.
Maybe a year from now for that one. I think we need to deal with primus too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 20:29:10 GMT
I never knew how much I wanted this... Make it happen pls bioware I expected more of these 'Star Trek episodes' to happen in the main game. Now I hope they'll show up as DLC. Exactly. It's odd, I felt the loyalty missions and some of the side missions were really good and seemed well developed, while the main plot was somewhat lacking. DLC provides a great opportunity for more smaller, self contained side plots, such as the quarian ark
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Post by osito on Mar 29, 2017 23:03:34 GMT
I'm expecting a Quarian ark dlc too. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Liara T'Soni (and maybe one or two other recognisable faces) is on it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 23:08:17 GMT
I'm expecting a Quarian ark dlc too. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Liara T'Soni (and maybe one or two other recognisable faces) is on it. That would be left-field. And controversial. I'm not saying its a bad idea, but I think bioware are going to steer well clear of anything like this. They've been pretty clear that this is a clean break from the OT, and something like that would probably reopen a lot of old wounds. Edit: Obviously the quarian arc dlc is all but confirmed, I just don't expect anyone we know to turn up on it.
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Post by roseofquartz on Mar 29, 2017 23:33:47 GMT
I'm thinking a DLC about the Benefactor (and Cora still being TIM's daughter). Then I'd like a DLC that takes place on a undiscovered planet, where you'll meet members of a primitive society who think Drack is a god. Help them fight big creatures and make sure they'll go on to become a civilzation someday, with only myths about the men from the sky. One of them might go along on the Tempest. And a new squadmate DLC. God, imagine how poor Drack would feel about that
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Post by osito on Mar 29, 2017 23:35:43 GMT
I'm expecting a Quarian ark dlc too. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Liara T'Soni (and maybe one or two other recognisable faces) is on it. That would be left-field. And controversial. I'm not saying its a bad idea, but I think bioware are going to steer well clear of anything like this. They've been pretty clear that this is a clean break from the OT, and something like that would probably reopen a lot of old wounds. Edit: Obviously the quarian arc dlc is all but confirmed, I just don't expect anyone we know to turn up on it. You're probably right. I was just struck by one of the things Liara said in MEA to the effect that she would have loved to go to Andromeda, but there was too much keeping her in the Milky Way. Anyway, it would probably cause too many problems for them to do it, but it would certainly be a surprise (even for me, because, actually, I'd be really surprised if they did it!).
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Mar 30, 2017 0:59:32 GMT
Nothing in MEA has grabbed me so far. It's not terrible / bad. I just find it bland. There is little brilliance in the writing. When it constantly makes me question the practicality / logic of a dialogue / event /chars instead of enjoying / absorbing the info / wondering at a potential mystery, it's a fail.
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Post by canuckgamer on Mar 30, 2017 15:33:48 GMT
As much as I enjoy Andromeda, I miss the Milky Way. There is so much stuff that can be happening now there after those 600 years, that no matter which ending ME3 might have had as canon, its effect must have "mitigated" after such a long time (except maybe Synthesis, but even here they could avoid problems with proper explanation why its effects no longer last ect). I just have this nostalgia that kinda keeps me from fully diving into ME:A. Even looking at the turian race dossier in the ME:A codex made a tear in my eye when I saw Garrus photo as "icon" for turian race in the codex... knowing that he is long dead now breaks my balls... If it were up to me - ME:A DLCs would expand on how we establish contact back with the Milky Way and ME:A2 is where we go back to the Milky Way (I'm taking sweet Vetra with me there!). We cannot assume every Mass Effect game now will be set in Andromeda... Mass Effect was always about the Milky Way and its affairs and I hope ME:A is existing as a "detox" after ME3 ending, so we may get a bridge back to the Milky Way. Don't get me wrong here - I like ME:A and I think it's GOOD that is exists. It's just that the theme of ME:A is "wide as an ocean" with that exploration, that even a big team cannot fill it with so many interesting characters like we used to have in ME1-3. So the way I see it OP is similar to your's: ME:A is basically laying the ground work for going back to the Milky Way (or establishing connection with the Milky Way, so that in the next game we get to play as those "Milkies" who received the signal from Andromeda Initiative and try to get in touch with them). The size and popularity of this series makes me think we may both end up being right in a way. There will likely be 2 more games based in Andromeda. Bioware seems committed to this course. The Shepard storyline was finished but after 600 years it could be interesting to see what happened back in the Milky Way. I could easily see a scenario where ME:A ends with your establishing a connection back to the Milky Way. Setting up a crossover third series.
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Post by canuckgamer on Mar 30, 2017 15:39:28 GMT
Doesn't quarian ark have 5 species on it plus a threatening signal? That is a huge dlc I think it should either like trespasser and an ending dlc or a whole new game. Maybe a year from now for that one. I think we need to deal with primus too. Primus will playout on the fringe but is more of a set up for a sequel. I don't think they would have teased the Quarian so heavily if we had to wait a year. This will be a large DLC but Bioware has done multiple large DLC for titles before and I can totally see that happening here.
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Post by Ianamus on Mar 30, 2017 15:56:34 GMT
Doesn't quarian ark have 5 species on it plus a threatening signal? That is a huge dlc I think it should either like trespasser and an ending dlc or a whole new game. Maybe a year from now for that one. I think we need to deal with primus too. After all of that teasing in the epilogue they must be planning to release it as DLC. They could get around having to add five species by only having one or two of them out of stasis.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 16:33:00 GMT
They teased 5 races at once though. It's big enough to be worth the wait and teasing 5 but showing 2 would be mean
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 19:03:37 GMT
The real question is, will we get any volus?
And if so, will I be able to play volus adept in multiplayer.
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Post by canuckgamer on Mar 30, 2017 19:18:54 GMT
The real question is, will we get any volus? And if so, will I be able to play volus adept in multiplayer. Someone can correct me but I believe the Volus where one of the 5 races aboard the Qurian Ark along with the Hanar, Drell and Elcor.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 19:32:12 GMT
The real question is, will we get any volus? And if so, will I be able to play volus adept in multiplayer. Someone can correct me but I believe the Volus where one of the 5 races aboard the Qurian Ark along with the Hanar, Drell and Elcor.
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Post by suddendepact on Mar 30, 2017 19:32:36 GMT
i think that we will get DLC 1: Quarian Ark DLC 2: Weapons and Gear pack 1 DLC 3: New Planet with all new side missions and remnant vault DLC 4: Weapons and Gear pack 2 Final DLC: Mysterious Benefactor/Fate of Milky Way
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Post by kastrenzo on Mar 30, 2017 20:32:12 GMT
All this talk of the Quarian ark just reminds me of Fallout 4's DLC. Where everyone thought they'd either be going to the moon, or be using the tranquility loungers.
I want a Quarian Ark mission, and the nerd in me wants a Citadel esque adventure too
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