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Post by operatorm1 on Apr 3, 2017 8:58:37 GMT
So...
Combat cloak always causes full cloak recharge time no matter how fast you break it?
Assuming yes, I'm thinking tactical cloak setups can go either:
damage bonus, duration, optional escape artist
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recharge speed, duration, combat cloak
What would you do and why?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 11:03:34 GMT
Depends on your weapon AND playstyle, I think. Sniper with several rounds in the magazine? Combat cloak. Single-shot sniper? Escapist. Something like that.
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Post by hardcoresalmon on Apr 3, 2017 11:13:50 GMT
Combat cloak rank 6B is complete garbage and bugged, it gives you the full cooldown everytime, basically the only choice I would consider is between movement speed or duration.
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Post by srgtcolon on Apr 10, 2017 20:41:48 GMT
Tested this on v1.05 and combat cloak is fully legit now. Not sure if it was bugged or not before the patch. Compared human male infiltrator with rank 5 TC (4B 5A) with human female infiltrator with rank 6 TC (4B 5A 6A). Wight power recharge speed was -1% for both. Test was a cloak > quick scope > shoot and check CD.
rank5 TC: cloak: 0.000 sec de-cloak: at 0.367 sec (crosshair CD reticle first visible) cooldown = 5.404 sec (measured until CD reticle flashes white before disappearing)
rank 6 TC w/ combat cloak: cloak: 0.000 sec shot at: 0.368 sec de-cloak at: 2.368 sec cooldown = 5.405 sec
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Post by gethadept on Apr 10, 2017 20:50:23 GMT
I thought it was working as intended? With 6B evo of 2 seconds damage boost option, if you break it with damage bonus you always get full recharge penalty. If you manually turn it off.. you still get shorter cooldown time. So this is another glitch? I found escape expert evo kinda useless.. because while you are cloaked you don`t regenerate shield but your shield recharge time still applies which means you start recharging as soon as you get out of cloak.
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Post by nucleartech76 on Apr 10, 2017 21:10:21 GMT
Duration for pee breaks and sandwich making.
Pro tip: wash your hands if doing both.
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Post by pitka17 on Apr 10, 2017 21:11:15 GMT
Combat cloak CD issue was broken, is now fixed.
Damage, Duration, Combat is my always.
Your shield recharge CD doesn't reset when you break cloak like it did in ME3. So usually your shields will be able to regenerate the moment you break stealth, unless you take damage again (which gethadept stated in different words as I typed this). This, combined with the human fitness 5a talent (if you sacrifice an ability), makes shield recharge while cloaked quite underwhelming compared to shots 2+ doing 80% more damage.
Also, as far as I know, the only way to get sticky grenades to get their damage bonus is by timing breaking cloak so that they explode during combat cloak.
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Post by missileglitcher on Apr 10, 2017 21:15:21 GMT
You can't really abuse something that has a 10 second cooldown hahaha. This ain't mass effect 3
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Post by gethadept on Apr 10, 2017 21:19:43 GMT
Duration for pee breaks and sandwich making. Pro tip: wash your hands if doing both. Kinda agree. I went duration for device objective, but it probably will feel useless now if I take out my infiltrator again..
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Post by XCPTNL on Apr 10, 2017 21:34:42 GMT
I use Damage, Movement and Escape... Combat Cloak is not really good because of the cooldown and I also don't see a big difference when it comes to damage. I have one Infiltrator with movement speed and one with duration. I have no real use for duration though to be honest.
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Post by nucleartech76 on Apr 10, 2017 21:42:10 GMT
Duration for pee breaks and sandwich making. Pro tip: wash your hands if doing both. Kinda agree. I went duration for device objective, but it probably will feel useless now if I take out my infiltrator again.. You can spec out if tactical cloak entirely if you got one of those female characters in your reward packs. Spec into Sammich Making on her.
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Post by nanotm on Apr 10, 2017 21:45:06 GMT
off host cloak doesn't work very well, and no matter if your host or not the sodding dogs ignor cloak and grab you anyway why would you play infiltrator and spec any points in cloak ????????
about the only thing its useful for is wasting points right now
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 10, 2017 21:50:29 GMT
off host cloak doesn't work very well, and no matter if your host or not the sodding dogs ignor cloak and grab you anyway why would you play infiltrator and spec any points in cloak ???????? about the only thing its useful for is wasting points right now I disagree. It sill works for me, and the bonus is worth it.
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Post by cryosferon on Apr 10, 2017 21:50:50 GMT
Combat cloak rank 6B is complete garbage and bugged, it gives you the full cooldown everytime, basically the only choice I would consider is between movement speed or duration. seems to work fine on PC. What are you playing on? In fact: the Infiltrator was the first character I played from day one and then quickly noticed myself that the cooldown was significantly faster when I didn't shoot but then broke the cloak manually. So it MUST work fine. Because I have always used 6b.
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Post by hardcoresalmon on Apr 10, 2017 21:56:32 GMT
Combat cloak rank 6B is complete garbage and bugged, it gives you the full cooldown everytime, basically the only choice I would consider is between movement speed or duration. seems to work fine on PC. What are you playing on? In fact: the Infiltrator was the first character I played from day one and then quickly noticed myself that the cooldown was significantly faster when I didn't shoot but then broke the cloak manually. So it MUST work fine. Because I have always used 6b. I posted that on 3 April before the fix. It now works fine and won't give the full cooldown
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Post by cryosferon on Apr 11, 2017 5:41:11 GMT
seems to work fine on PC. What are you playing on? In fact: the Infiltrator was the first character I played from day one and then quickly noticed myself that the cooldown was significantly faster when I didn't shoot but then broke the cloak manually. So it MUST work fine. Because I have always used 6b. I posted that on 3 April before the fix. It now works fine and won't give the full cooldown like I said, I played from day one. and noticed the different cooldowns - even mentioned that somewhere on this forum. BEFORE the patch
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