Human infiltrator is the best overall character in MP

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Extra damage actually can be redundant. If it takes 1000 damage to kill something, it doesn't matter if you do 1001 damage or 100,000 damage.. the target is just as dead. So all those points investing in jacking damage output to that level are indeed redundant. Where monster damage dealing comes into play is vs Boss spam AKA Platinum.. which we don't have.. so unless you're fighting a boss, it's a useless trait. Since bosses are so few.. doing the 74638275748394+ damage with a cloaked Vanquisher shot now becomes redundant and situational.

this is very cute

using hyperbolic logical fallacy by using extreme and exaggerated examples to try to discredit what i said

i've soloed gold like 6 times, 3 of them were infiltrator, the other 3 was a vanguard and sentinel

but i must admit, in some of those solos, it took me multiple attempts(especially the upload mission on a small map)

Stickies beat anything the huntress can bring to the table. The best support role is killing the things that kill your team.

God I need to figure out how to multiquote.

Anyway, SI, and Avenger bring stickies, and generally better CQC damage as well.

Avenger has stealth grid on top.

Female Human Sentinel Waifu

1. Best Reviver/Support because of Barricade and Team Drain Energy Drain to restore Shields of everyone within 8m radius
2. Best solo because dogs can still smell you through cloak but they can't grab you through your Barricade
3. Weapons training Passives that are always applied
4. Best survivability because of Tech Armor DR that is always applied and Rank 6 50% Shield Recharge time reduction
5. Combos for days with Energy Drain+Throw followed by Cryo/Incendiary Ammo+Throw, repeat
6. Memorable quotes such as "We should go" and "Yikes - an Ascendant!"
7. Loves to party and will try anything once.

It's really just simple math.. but sure, whatever you say boss.

When you start breaking thresholds on how many shots are required to kill a target, then you can truly evaluate the usefulness of MOAR DAMAGE. For instance: If taking certain evos allows you to go from three shotting a gold Berserker, to two shotting them.. then this evo has value. If you max your damage, but it still takes the same amount of shots.. what have you gained? Your TTK is still the same. Is it improved on sponges like Hydras.. yes.. but they're so rare that this qualifies the need for said damage as situational.

Unless someone actually takes the time to test these things.. we'll really never know exactly how much is needed. We DID know things like this with the old game.. but not this one, as we simply don't have the numbers.

A perfect example of my point is the GI with the Javelin from last game.. discussing rank 6 in Hunter Mode. The choice was 10% more damage OR 20% more movement speed and an extra 10 meters of wall hack vision. It was pretty much universally concluded that the extra speed and vision was better, since there were so many other sources of damage that it became redundant vs most enemies, as they could be one-shot regardless of which evo you took.

Hence.. going ham on damage CAN in fact be redundant and situational. But what do I know.. I only had 4,000 hours in the game.

i've played with adepts on teams, but it's not in my train of thought to use them for solo(at least not yet)

based off how i played the adepts, it's easy for me to make an inference that they aren't as good as the infiltrators when it comes to solo.

then again, there are some melee adepts who would occasionally outscore me in team games(they would go rambo and kill everything as fast as possible instead of sitting back and shooting their weapon)

To be fair you really don't seem like someone with much knowledge of the game considering you didn't know how stealth grid and tactical cloak worked before this thread. I'd play the game a bit more before you go around throwing your opinion as facts.

hey man, I didn't mean to trigger you this much for you to act overly patronizing and condescending by intentionally twisting my words and trying to tell me what to do. 

relax, if you disagree with me, that's totally fine. 

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