Where are all overweight people in Andromeda?

Yeah they got some real beauty pageant queens there.

Fair point. 

However, even if it's all done with manufacturing tech - tech is still expensive, and needs operators to be used, and etc etc etc. 

Right? Same burden of care.

Yeah, not fat in the future, just ugly with perfect bodies.   

Irrelevant.  It doesn't really matter if they are real faces or sculpted in a modelling tool.  All that matters is how they look in game.

For that matter BW's face scans have never been that great.  The default Sara doesn't really look anything like her model and Miranda only ever had a passing resemblance to Yvonne Strahovski.  Add into that the 'rumor' that BW deliberately made the female faces, less attractive, and for all we know those presets don't look anything like the real life people.

Shep and Scott's in game faces aren't exact duplicates of their real life models either, though it is obvious BW made the effort to stay much closer to the source for the male faces and to make them appealing in that oh so dreaded 'typical Hollywood fashion'.  Many of the custom male presets I've seen tend to be rather attractive as well (can't really say for in game, didn't even look at them in the CC).

I don't feel bad at all for wanting my Sara or my femShep to be attractive, there is a reason beauty is so prized in places like Hollywood and fashion modelling.  People like it, they gravitate toward it, and it sells. 

If I want to spend my free time surrounded by 'not attractive' people I'll go hang out at Wal-Mart. 

Considering the evidence, it's hard for me to believe that is wasn't deliberate.

Funny how you contradict yourself by first defending ugly faces and then mentioning women body image issues. So according to you having an attractive female faces in game does contribute to body image issues, yet the fact that every NPC has perfectly fit athletic body - doesn't?  I would have understood if it was vice versa, but standing as it is - it doesn't make any sense.  

Or what BW thinks women should look like.  Conspiracy?  Who's talking about a conspiracy?  Soon as I hear people throwing that word around I know straight out of the gate I'm dealing with someone who already knows their argument isn't going to carry weight and so just try and discredit the other side.    Its not a stretch to think that BW of all companies would take some weird inclusion theory about what women want way too far.

The other part of the rumor is also how BW treated the face scans.  You can't just scan a face and throw the raw 3D model into the game.  It still requires artists to manipulate it, make corrections, adjust skin textures and facial geometries, it needs to be rigged properly to the 3D skeleton, animations (at least for a main character in close ups) need adjusted and perfected.  From what we have heard a lot of that didn't happen, or at least happen properly.  The human faces scans were outsourced and the in-house artists weren't allowed to work on and touch them up and even when they offered to they were turned away.

If BW decided to just take raw face scan data and say "eh good enough" its no wonder things look the way they do.  Face scan tech can be a good starting point but it can't perfectly recreate a face and even if it did that doesn't mean it would look any good when rendered in a video game. 


Yep me too and the facial structures clearly don't match up.  The brow line and cheekbones are over exaggerated the jaw line widened the mouth stretched further across the face the eyebrows made bushier and the nose rounded and made more bulbous.  Are these the results of the face scan tech or the artists manipulating the game model?  Apparently you think you know better than I so I'll let you answer that question.


Hey, you know what?  Maybe.  Maybe myself and my family and friends and co-workers and everyone else I know are just that insanely good looking that my perception of myself and women is just completely warped.  Who knows?  If it was would I even know?

Given the appearance of the presets something is certainly at play.  They all share many of the same hallmarks of adjustment that I outlined for the default Sara to the point that they just become odd looking.  Throw aside whether the faces are "ugly" or not they all have a very uncanny valley quality to them that I don't find in any of the male presets.

Now you are obviously very offended by all this, but I can't say I really care.  I never bought into the feminist view that anything attractive or considered good looking is supposed to be viewed as hurtful to me personally or somehow supposed to make me feel like less of a person.  It just doesn't.  Video games are a fantasy, I enjoy pretty things in my fantasies. 

If you don't well at least you'll be happy with MEA.

Yeah kinda funny considering what else is going on in the thread.

I like Cora and Sara having more athletic bodies, femShep always looked weird doing the things she does with those little stick arms she had.   Problem now is every female in Andromeda looks like a fitness model.  They really should have kept the old OT female body for everyone but Cora and Sara, would have helped make them stand out as unique.

I never thought Miranda's face was attractive at all, quite the opposite.  I wonder if the love fest with her may have been the way that suit fit her more than anything else.  It was like two sizes too small with her buns sticking out like torpedoes.         

You'd think they'd have improved plastic surgery, because these women are fugly.

Yeah. BW has never really been big on being able to make pretty faces. Hell, I would give a female  protagonist a shot if I was able to give her a Super model face, but I don't see that happening.