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Post by SpiritVanguard on Aug 10, 2016 22:02:52 GMT
Was anyone ever able to get Alistair and Anora to marry? I tried without success I don't know if I did something wrong or the game won't let it happen. I did it in 2 playthoughs with my only 2 male wardens  . In one Alistair was married to Anora with Loghain dead, in the other one he was married to Anora and Loghain was alive. Huh. I didn't know this was possible. I did once. When I saw her slap away his hand in the ceremony, I reloaded and made him solo king. You need to have a pretty high persuade skill in order to get them to agree to marry. And so many people insist in calling it the "perfect ending". The guy is being pushed into a life he never wanted and stuck with a woman that doesn't care about him.Short of death, I feel it is one of the worst endings for Alistair. I'm reluctant to make him King because he very clearly doesn't want to be one and I respect his feelings, but in the cases where he is King I tried to keep him safe by making my Warden Queen or marrying him to Anora. There's also some DAI spoiler reasons: Choosing between him and Hawke in the Fade. I sacrifice Hawke over Alistair every time. But if I want a Hawke to live I have to remove Alistair from the equation. It's more selfishness on my part, I'll admit. But I also like having different World States to use in DAI.
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Post by BevH on Aug 10, 2016 22:36:01 GMT
I did once. When I saw her slap away his hand in the ceremony, I reloaded and made him solo king. You need to have a pretty high persuade skill in order to get them to agree to marry. There is a marriage ceremony scene between the two? I don't remember this at all... Sounds amusing though. It's kind of a wedding/coronation combined.
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Post by BevH on Aug 10, 2016 22:39:17 GMT
I did it in 2 playthoughs with my only 2 male wardens  . In one Alistair was married to Anora with Loghain dead, in the other one he was married to Anora and Loghain was alive. Huh. I didn't know this was possible. And so many people insist in calling it the "perfect ending". The guy is being pushed into a life he never wanted and stuck with a woman that doesn't care about him. Short of death, I feel it is one of the worst endings for Alistair. I'm reluctant to make him King because he very clearly doesn't want to be one and I respect his feelings, but in the cases where he is King I tried to keep him safe by making my Warden Queen or marrying him to Anora. There's also some DAI spoiler reasons: Choosing between him and Hawke in the Fade. I sacrifice Hawke over Alistair every time. But if I want a Hawke to live I have to remove Alistair from the equation. It's more selfishness on my part, I'll admit. But I also like having different World States to use in DAI.
It is possible by talking to them before the Landsmeet and getting them to agree to marry. Of course, you have to duel Loghain yourself and allow him to live. Alistair becomes angry and removes himself from the Wardens. But he lives and will marry Anora with Loghain still alive.
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Aug 10, 2016 23:02:56 GMT
Huh. I didn't know this was possible. Short of death, I feel it is one of the worst endings for Alistair. I'm reluctant to make him King because he very clearly doesn't want to be one and I respect his feelings, but in the cases where he is King I tried to keep him safe by making my Warden Queen or marrying him to Anora. There's also some DAI spoiler reasons: Choosing between him and Hawke in the Fade. I sacrifice Hawke over Alistair every time. But if I want a Hawke to live I have to remove Alistair from the equation. It's more selfishness on my part, I'll admit. But I also like having different World States to use in DAI.
It is possible by talking to them before the Landsmeet and getting them to agree to marry. Of course, you have to duel Loghain yourself and allow him to live. Alistair becomes angry and removes himself from the Wardens. But he lives and will marry Anora with Loghain still alive. I knew about getting them to marry, not about Loghain. I always kill him. But this would be an interesting way to play with Loghain alive and Alistair not a drunk -- because I can't bring myself to do that. Also, don't like letting Loghain live.
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It is possible by talking to them before the Landsmeet and getting them to agree to marry. Of course, you have to duel Loghain yourself and allow him to live. Alistair becomes angry and removes himself from the Wardens. But he lives and will marry Anora with Loghain still alive. I knew about getting them to marry, not about Loghain. I always kill him. But this would be an interesting way to play with Loghain alive and Alistair not a drunk -- because I can't bring myself to do that. Also, don't like letting Loghain live. I'm playing that world state right now. I must say it's nice having Alistair, Anora AND Loghain all alive in one world together, even if you do only see Al/Anora for 2 milliseconds at Redcliffe. 
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Post by marikahaliwell on Aug 11, 2016 15:47:51 GMT
Popping in to say Hi ! Also I can't romance anyone else in DAO except Ali 
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 20:41:19 GMT
And if I may be so blunt, a Cousland who does that is just using Alistair to ascend to power even though she is aware that he never wanted to be king. Aww, that's kind of harsh. I don't think so. The way that my Cousland was seeing it was that Ferelden is gonna need a whole lot of work, it's basically jacked up and she knows that she and Alistair can put in the hard work, I mean look at how they just saved friggin' Thedas. And Alistair does become reconciled to becoming king if you harden him, so later in the game I didn't get a feeling from him that he was hating the whole thing at all. And I can see that if you look at it a certain way it could be Disney Princess, but honestly, I think they're both very jacked up after all that. I think it's a tough road for them personally. I just didn't see a need for it to continue to be tough physically (i.e. endless camping foreeeevvvaahhhhh). BW obviously doesn't think it's a picnic either, because my Queen is off doing "cure for the calling" stuff and dealing with the Architect/Mother situation. That's actually what I image too, but my Queen Cousland couldn't help herself but to romance him before marrying an Hardened Alistair. I can't help myself; Alistair is such a doll, and I like happy marriages, but yeah, I do agree with you, I image my Cousland was like HOLY. CRAP. When she saw the mother for the first aftertime, afterall, the Mother is a Human Broodmother afterall. I image after that, she didn't go the deep roads for sometime, as she kept on thinking that she was going to turn into the next sentient Broodmother, lol.
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Post by Iddy on Aug 12, 2016 1:12:45 GMT
Hardened Alistair could be reassuring if he didn't complain so much about being king in the graphic novels.
Hell, he even has a Fade dream where the Theirin family is alive and together but Cailan STILL is Maric's successor.
Truth is that softening/hardening are irrelevant. From what I've heard, it only changed recently regarding Leliana, since it is an available choice in DAI's section of the Keep.
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Post by Julilla on Aug 12, 2016 1:56:23 GMT
Hardened Alistair could be reassuring if he didn't complain so much about being king in the graphic novels. Hell, he even has a Fade dream where the Theirin family is alive and together but Cailan STILL is Maric's successor. Truth is that softening/hardening are irrelevant. From what I've heard, it only changed recently regarding Leliana, since it is an available choice in DAI's section of the Keep. I think that this is because he's so good hearted. He was also told his whole life not to want anything, that he wasn't going to get it. Despite that, he so obviously yearns for his family. I don't think the Fade dream means any more than that he wishes terrible things hadn't happened to his family. It is hard to be a king, no doubt. It's a heavy burden for anyone.
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Post by Shinobu on Aug 15, 2016 5:24:29 GMT
I like the options with his romance. My first character threw herself at him, then my second was all shy and virginal and waited for him to make the first move. I think I preferred leaving him as a Warden though, if I ever do a canon run I may leave him like that. He's a King in my current run and I don't think the poor pet is very happy about it. Which do you guys prefer? (I have had him as a wandering drunk once, but I flat out refuse to kill him) I'd like to have him as a warden but I can't do the DR because I want Kieran to be human and I won't sacrifice Alistair (we have Loghain for that) so I made him king . But since he is unhappy as king (and lets be honest he is not a good king) I don't know if I should make him a drunk for my canon. He eventually returns with the wardens but the friendship... I don't know what to do.Ultimate Sacrifice? With a male warden or at least one that wasn't romancing Alistair, because breaking his heart is bad. I loved Steve Valentine's voice acting so much that I wanted to hear all of Alistair's lines, so I tried every outcome, including having Alistair executed once. (My advice: YouTube it, don't do it -- it is truly terrible.) My canon Warden is a pragmatic city elf who convinces the love of her life to impregnate someone else to save his soul. Yeah. Totally worth it in DAI to hear they've been happy together for a decade. (Relevant: I hated Hawke.) I'm not sure I agree that Cousie Queen outcome is crueler than Warden outcome for Alistair. At least he is (potentially) marrying his true love, who will help him. Also, when hardened he actually feels confident in his ability to become king. (I didn't read the comics, so I'm ignoring them. Also, his line during the Landsmeet where he seems to be wimping out is evidently a bug and should only come up for unhardened Alistair.) On the other hand, asking him to do the DR is pretty selfish of the Warden because she is asking him to agree to 1) participate in blood magic by 2) having sex with a woman he hates and 3) possibly endanger the world in the process, all things which go against everything he believes in. Finally, we know how scarred he was by being a bastard with an absentee father and then the warden asks him to do the exact same thing, which is pretty insensitive in my opinion. He would have been well within his rights to say: "If you love me, how could you ask me to do this?" None of this stopped my Warden, though. The one thing I wish is that he took more of an interest in Kieran in DAI. I always think of Alistair as yearning for a family, so I wanted him to try to establish a relationship with Kieran. (In my headcanon he gives Kieran some of his warden action figures.)
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Post by Seven Zettabytes on Aug 19, 2016 12:44:40 GMT
 Alistair tarot card by Swevenfox. They explained the symbolism:
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Post by Tarshana on Aug 20, 2016 2:35:11 GMT
You know what was nice about the Alistair romance compared to the others? It felt more natural and progressed. Even to hold it up against other BW games he was never "OH you gave me a compliment?! LET'S FUCK!" I remember when I first played Mass Effect as FemShep and Kaiden is like "So you were nice to me but I am getting static.." "Kaiden I just want codex entries. I'd rather tango with a Turian."
Edit: hahaha no pun intended!
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Post by Iddy on Aug 20, 2016 18:01:30 GMT
Sometimes I don't understand Alistair.
He is just so offended by Morrigan's insults and even tries to convince her that he isn't stupid during party banter.
But if just out of curiousity you ever pick the dialogue options where you can insult Alistair, he straight up kicks your ass with sarcasm.
Regardless of approval level or relationship status, the Warden can't get under his skin. However, Morrigan can.
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Sometimes I don't understand Alistair. He is just so offended by Morrigan's insults and even tries to convince her that he isn't stupid during party banter. But if just out of curiousity you ever pick the dialogue options where you can insult Alistair, he straight up kicks your ass with sarcasm. Regardless of approval level or relationship status, the Warden can't get under his skin. However, Morrigan can. My step sister doesn't like Alistair  AND I DO WHY AM I ALL ALONE IN MY LIKING OF ALISTAIR?
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Post by Seven Zettabytes on Aug 21, 2016 1:15:48 GMT
Sometimes I don't understand Alistair. He is just so offended by Morrigan's insults and even tries to convince her that he isn't stupid during party banter. But if just out of curiousity you ever pick the dialogue options where you can insult Alistair, he straight up kicks your ass with sarcasm. Regardless of approval level or relationship status, the Warden can't get under his skin. However, Morrigan can. My step sister doesn't like Alistair  AND I DO WHY AM I ALL ALONE IN MY LIKING OF ALISTAIR? You're not alone, you're in the Alistair thread! Here, have some Alistair and Barkspawn art. Which your stepsister will totally miss out on... Manly Alistair posing with Barkspawn by Donc Desole:Derp Detective Theirin with Dog by Donc Desole: Alistair and Barkspawn out hunting by Donc Desole: "I know. I miss your Warden as you do," by Doragon Eiji. King Alistair visits Ferelden army's newest recruits to boost morale by Syber:A good night kiss:
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My step sister doesn't like Alistair  AND I DO WHY AM I ALL ALONE IN MY LIKING OF ALISTAIR? You're not alone, you're in the Alistair thread! Here, have some Alistair and Barkspawn art. Which your stepsister will totally miss out on... Manly Alistair posing with Barkspawn by Donc Desole:Derp Detective Theirin with Dog by Donc Desole:
[/spoiler] Alistair and Barkspawn out hunting by Donc Desole:
"I know. I miss your Warden as you do," by Doragon Eiji.
A good night kiss:
Don't mind me, I was ranting at the time, yolo. [/quote]
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Post by Iddy on Aug 21, 2016 2:03:19 GMT
Sometimes I don't understand Alistair. He is just so offended by Morrigan's insults and even tries to convince her that he isn't stupid during party banter. But if just out of curiousity you ever pick the dialogue options where you can insult Alistair, he straight up kicks your ass with sarcasm. Regardless of approval level or relationship status, the Warden can't get under his skin. However, Morrigan can. My step sister doesn't like Alistair  AND I DO WHY AM I ALL ALONE IN MY LIKING OF ALISTAIR? I know the answer to that as much as I know why you quoted me, which is to say... not at all.
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My step sister doesn't like Alistair  AND I DO WHY AM I ALL ALONE IN MY LIKING OF ALISTAIR? I know the answer to that as much as I know why you quoted me, which is to say... not at all. Bro.
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Post by lucretia on Aug 21, 2016 3:09:23 GMT
Oh, Alistair... I romanced him with my first warden, and was deeply in love... *sigh* He got dethroned later by Leliana as my favorite LI from Origins, but I still love him. 
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Post by ladyvarda on Aug 22, 2016 1:53:24 GMT
Ah, Alistair my first bioware love. Whenever I play Origins I can't resist him and his stupid, adorable face. I try to go into a playthrough romancing Leliana and then he starts talking and  . One day Leliana one day.
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Post by BevH on Aug 22, 2016 2:16:19 GMT
Ah, Alistair my first bioware love. Whenever I play Origins I can't resist him and his stupid, adorable face. I try to go into a playthrough romancing Leliana and then he starts talking and  . One day Leliana one day. Teehee... I had to make a male warden in order to romance someone else.
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Post by ladyvarda on Aug 22, 2016 2:37:44 GMT
Ah, Alistair my first bioware love. Whenever I play Origins I can't resist him and his stupid, adorable face. I try to go into a playthrough romancing Leliana and then he starts talking and  . One day Leliana one day. Teehee... I had to make a male warden in order to romance someone else. Ha, me too! Though I really want to romance Leliana as a female warden. We need to do something about Alistair...he must be stopped...nah, not really, it is I who fail to resist his charm. He is blameless for whenever romance takes place.
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