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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 3:52:18 GMT
I never installed mods for DAO, but apparently someone has made one so different origins can marry Alistair. In honor of Beregond5, the Amell wedding: I love how judgmental Isolde looks. Also, seeing Dagna in the background is a nice touch. And for GoldenGail3 and me, the Tabris version: There are Surana, Mahariel and Cousland versions, but I'm not sure about the dwarf origins. The Amell and Tabris version are both totally relevant to me, I love my Elizabeth Amell. She's one of my favorites, and plus she's also a Alistair romance (a Warden Alistair - I'm alive! Worldstate!)
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Post by Beregond5 on Sept 9, 2016 9:28:40 GMT
I never installed mods for DAO, but apparently someone has made one so different origins can marry Alistair. In honor of Beregond5, the Amell wedding: <vid> I love how judgmental Isolde looks. Also, seeing Dagna in the background is a nice touch. And for GoldenGail3 and me, the Tabris version: <vid> There are Surana, Mahariel and Cousland versions, but I'm not sure about the dwarf origins. Oh, thanks! XD And I've got to admit, those mods look quite good.
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Post by phoray on Sept 21, 2016 15:19:14 GMT
So. My rule through 3 play throughs has been to never kill Alistair.
But on this very thread, I find out romanced Alistair will sacrifice himself.
And I find that so tragically romantic that I want to see it, but it conflicts with my rule.
Is it still killing him if he chooses to do it himself? -meep-
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Post by Domakir on Sept 21, 2016 16:16:35 GMT
So. My rule through 3 play throughs has been to never kill Alistair. But on this very thread, I find out romanced Alistair will sacrifice himself. A nd I find that so tragically romantic that I want to see it, but it conflicts with my rule.
Is it still killing him if he chooses to do it himself? -meep- Not really. You're not forcing him to do it, he's the one who chooses. Console yourself with that. xD
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Post by phoray on Sept 21, 2016 16:18:43 GMT
So. My rule through 3 play throughs has been to never kill Alistair. But on this very thread, I find out romanced Alistair will sacrifice himself. A nd I find that so tragically romantic that I want to see it, but it conflicts with my rule.
Is it still killing him if he chooses to do it himself? -meep- Not really. You're not forcing him to do it, he's the one who chooses. How many ways can he die? - Execution by Anora
- Ultimate Sacrifice
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Post by Domakir on Sept 21, 2016 16:19:22 GMT
Not really. You're not forcing him to do it, he's the one who chooses. How many ways can he die? - Execution by Anora
- Ultimate Sacrifice
?? Don't forget the Fade in Inquisition.
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Post by phoray on Sept 21, 2016 16:22:41 GMT
How many ways can he die? - Execution by Anora
- Ultimate Sacrifice
?? Don't forget the Fade in Inquisition. Oh yes. But there, I definitely have a choice and have not made that choice. And Anora executes only if Alistair dueled and she is Queen, right? Does Alistair ever do the US when he's not romanced?
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Post by Domakir on Sept 21, 2016 16:27:26 GMT
Don't forget the Fade in Inquisition. Oh yes. But there, I definitely have a choice and have not made that choice. And Anora executes only if Alistair dueled and she is Queen, right? Does Alistair ever do the US when he's not romanced? You can ask Anora to let him live. That's also up to you. xD No. He only sacrifice himself without asking if he is romanced otherwise he will ask your permission.
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Post by phoray on Sept 21, 2016 16:42:25 GMT
I was trying to come up with a Warden who would do the Ultimate Sacrifice, because even my do gooder signed Alistair up for the DR with nervous trepidation.
Queen Cousland didn't even care what happened to the baby, she wanted to be Queen and nobody was soul kerplouding on her watch.
So, I started formulating, ironically, a Morrigan like murder Warden blood mage who didn't trust Morrigan from the first second. She recognized a kindred selfish spirit. And would suspect the whole thing was a setup to get some sort of power, but that Morrigan wouldn't hold up her end of the deal. Then I asked myself who she would romamce, and I was like, I think Alistair because his do gooder attitude would soften her towards being more noble and saving the world by Ultimate Sacrifice.
Then I learn that romanced Alistair won't let you do it. So then I have this epic to me story arch that breaks my rule about Alistair and I...don't know. Mete knowledge tells me he'll die, so it's the same as choosing him to die.
But apparently you can just not bring him with you to final battle and he won't get the chance?
But then tragic romance drama that will make me cry cry cry will be missed and I do so like being that immersed.
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Post by Beregond5 on Sept 21, 2016 17:41:10 GMT
^^ Oh, I can guarantee the cry. Been there, done that. XD However, I also remember there used to be a mod in which a romanced Warden could actually trick Alistair and go through with the US anyway, if you want to try that as well. Mind you, the only clip over at youtube where it shows how it works is heavily modded and even Alistair looks... not Alistair. 
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 20:23:16 GMT
^^ Oh, I can guarantee the cry. Been there, done that. XD However, I also remember there used to be a mod in which a romanced Warden could actually trick Alistair and go through with the US anyway, if you want to try that as well. Mind you, the only clip over at youtube where it shows how it works is heavily modded and even Alistair looks... not Alistair.
That Alistair is kind of ugly. Sorry for whoever modded him but man, that Alistair is twice as worst as DA2 Alistair...
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Post by Beregond5 on Sept 21, 2016 20:35:57 GMT
^^ Oh, I can guarantee the cry. Been there, done that. XD However, I also remember there used to be a mod in which a romanced Warden could actually trick Alistair and go through with the US anyway, if you want to try that as well. Mind you, the only clip over at youtube where it shows how it works is heavily modded and even Alistair looks... not Alistair.
That Alistair is kind of ugly. Sorry for whoever modded him but man, that Alistair is twice as worst as DA2 Alistair...
I have to agree. I didn't even recognise him at first...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 20:38:41 GMT
That Alistair is kind of ugly. Sorry for whoever modded him but man, that Alistair is twice as worst as DA2 Alistair...
I have to agree. I didn't even recognise him at first... He looks too old for his age... something is wrong with his face. it's like the time I tried to mod Wynne, and she came out looking real creepy...
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Post by Seven Zettabytes on Sept 22, 2016 9:06:12 GMT
But apparently you can just not bring him with you to final battle and he won't get the chance? I've wondered whether this is possible, too. If it is, has anyone done this? Does he mention the Warden in DA:I in a way that differs from friendly Wardens? Also, modded Alistair doesn't look that bad to me. Certainly not worse than DA2 Alistair. I like the dark hair on him.
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Post by phoray on Sept 22, 2016 13:06:32 GMT
But apparently you can just not bring him with you to final battle and he won't get the chance? I've wondered whether this is possible, too. If it is, has anyone done this? Does he mention the Warden in DA:I in a way that differs from friendly Wardens? Also, modded Alistair doesn't look that bad to me. Certainly not worse than DA2 Alistair. I like the dark hair on him. Guess one could just play with the Keep a bit. Wonder if you could reflect it even if it happens. Because apparently a Male Warden can talk Alistair into doing the Dark Ritual instead (to stay true to LI). So, I made that world state for a gay dalish elf who romance Zevran and the Warden Alistair I got from that World state said my Warden had done the Dark Ritual even though he hadn't.
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Post by floratheelf on Sept 22, 2016 13:58:57 GMT
So. My rule through 3 play throughs has been to never kill Alistair. But on this very thread, I find out romanced Alistair will sacrifice himself. A nd I find that so tragically romantic that I want to see it, but it conflicts with my rule.
Is it still killing him if he chooses to do it himself? -meep- Love the rule  I can't even romance anyone but Alistair, the thought that people have actually killed him off mortifies me Haha I didn't even know he'd sacrifice himself until my.. fourth play through? My first play through was a fairy tale ending (romanced, kept as warden, DR done, happily ever after  ) Second play through another elf, tried to marry him after crowning him and he said nuh uh, he dumped me then I reloaded faster than I could blink. Third play through I intended to marry him but got bored half way through haha. My fourth I decided I wanted to see them tears and was all ready to have my warden kill over, I was panicking so hard when I was about to lose Alistair. Shut the game off before I could see it. Never again will I make that mistake.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 21:32:18 GMT
But apparently you can just not bring him with you to final battle and he won't get the chance? I've wondered whether this is possible, too. If it is, has anyone done this? Does he mention the Warden in DA:I in a way that differs from friendly Wardens? Also, modded Alistair doesn't look that bad to me. Certainly not worse than DA2 Alistair. I like the dark hair on him.
I should show you a picture of my modded Zevran, he looked like an abomation escaped from the circle... modding companions is not a good idea...
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Post by Seven Zettabytes on Sept 23, 2016 7:40:53 GMT
Guess one could just play with the Keep a bit. Wonder if you could reflect it even if it happens. Because apparently a Male Warden can talk Alistair into doing the Dark Ritual instead (to stay true to LI). So, I made that world state for a gay dalish elf who romance Zevran and the Warden Alistair I got from that World state said my Warden had done the Dark Ritual even though he hadn't. Hmm, that sounds like it was a bug with the Keep and not because they didn't make that world state possible. Unless I'm misunderstanding and that's what you are saying.
I should show you a picture of my modded Zevran, he looked like an abomation escaped from the circle... modding companions is not a good idea...
I agree with you on that. I've never modded my companions because I think that takes away from how the writers wanted to represent them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 8:14:11 GMT
Guess one could just play with the Keep a bit. Wonder if you could reflect it even if it happens. Because apparently a Male Warden can talk Alistair into doing the Dark Ritual instead (to stay true to LI). So, I made that world state for a gay dalish elf who romance Zevran and the Warden Alistair I got from that World state said my Warden had done the Dark Ritual even though he hadn't. Hmm, that sounds like it was a bug with the Keep and not because they didn't make that world state possible. Unless I'm misunderstanding and that's what you are saying.
I should show you a picture of my modded Zevran, he looked like an abomation escaped from the circle... modding companions is not a good idea...
I agree with you on that. I've never modded my companions because I think that takes away from how the writers wanted to represent them. I think modding companions (i've modded Morrigan before - she turned out okay...) can be a terrible thing because the modders that mod DAO on Nexus can be... well, not very good. it's wise to take certain mods from that place though; sometimes they can be worth all the hassle.
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Post by phoray on Sept 23, 2016 11:00:04 GMT
Guess one could just play with the Keep a bit. Wonder if you could reflect it even if it happens. Because apparently a Male Warden can talk Alistair into doing the Dark Ritual instead (to stay true to LI). So, I made that world state for a gay dalish elf who romance Zevran and the Warden Alistair I got from that World state said my Warden had done the Dark Ritual even though he hadn't. Hmm, that sounds like it was a bug with the Keep and not because they didn't make that world state possible. Unless I'm misunderstanding and that's what you are saying. Well. The keep seemed to work fine for my other two games, so either that world state is bugged, or it's such a rare one they didnt bother changing one line and so it's not represented. I clicked all the right tiles, even took pics of the tiles to confirm I'd done it right. And Warden Alistair said my Warden had walked down a dark path. I was like, na uh! You did! But in the end, I don't like that world state anymore, so I've no interest in playing again to see if a reload would fix it. 1. Warden Alistair vs one of my beloved Anders/Hawke in the Fade Choice 2. If Zevran is with the Warden in DAO, they never part. Which romantically, is probably the best scenario instead of all these separated working romances. But all it means for DAI is you get zero Zevran war table missions. A romances Zevran feels no need to abolish the Crows apparently.
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Post by phoray on Sept 23, 2016 22:30:37 GMT
This is a Warden Alistair in DAI question:
What does he say about the Warden if he was romanced but she did US? Is there any dialogue at all? I'm on the fence about him being a Warden vs Solo King vs Political marriage Anora King. If he isn't grieving me ten years later in Forever Alone tragedy, then I may as well let him be married and have some happiness. Maybe.
Found this already discussed on BSN prime
Essentially, he'll never mention romancing the dead HOF. Lame.
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Post by Beregond5 on Sept 24, 2016 7:12:52 GMT
This is a Warden Alistair in DAI question: What does he say about the Warden if he was romanced but she did US? Is there any dialogue at all? I'm on the fence about him being a Warden vs Solo King vs Political marriage Anora King. If he isn't grieving me ten years later in Forever Alone tragedy, then I may as well let him be married and have some happiness. Maybe.
Found this already discussed on BSN prime Essentially, he'll never mention romancing the dead HOF. Lame. As far as I remember, he doesn't say anything about the particular outcome. That's a shame.Edit: And I don't have any observation skills whatsoever. *hides*
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 9:20:22 GMT
Hmm, that sounds like it was a bug with the Keep and not because they didn't make that world state possible. Unless I'm misunderstanding and that's what you are saying. Well. The keep seemed to work fine for my other two games, so either that world state is bugged, or it's such a rare one they didnt bother changing one line and so it's not represented. I clicked all the right tiles, even took pics of the tiles to confirm I'd done it right. And Warden Alistair said my Warden had walked down a dark path. I was like, na uh! You did! But in the end, I don't like that world state anymore, so I've no interest in playing again to see if a reload would fix it. 1. Warden Alistair vs one of my beloved Anders/Hawke in the Fade Choice 2. If Zevran is with the Warden in DAO, they never part. Which romantically, is probably the best scenario instead of all these separated working romances. But all it means for DAI is you get zero Zevran war table missions. A romances Zevran feels no need to abolish the Crows apparently. i killed my Hawke in all my Warden Alistair romance worldstates (i have like three of them... I just love seeing more of Alistair, he's so cute as a warden i just can't help myself!)
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Post by phoray on Sept 24, 2016 17:46:52 GMT
Oh nuuu, my morally questionable Surana is starting to put Alistair in the friend zone! Alistair didn't get time to make a move before Zevran arrived to call her a sex goddess and offer to be her bed warmer. But she's slotted for tragic love story with Alistair! Bad Zevran, bad Surana! Maybe I'll enjoy an ongoing love triangle for once. I did an "all Alistair" PT followed by "how many can I get in bed serial". So, other than the two jealousy break up with that person talks, there was never any comments on Zev and Alistair both liking me at once. Who will win Surana's love? Tune in next time.  (Alistair will always have MY love, that's a given.)
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Post by BevH on Sept 26, 2016 17:09:52 GMT
I modded Alistair myself and I think he turned out fine. I didn't actuallly change much, though, so I think he still looks like Alistair.  The name of the mod where you can get the option to knock out an Alistair insisting on killing the Archdemon is IRS-Alistair. I also have a run from before I had that mod. The only way I found that a romanced Alistair will not kill the Archdemon is to leave him behind at the gate. I haven't taken that world state into DAI so I don't know what happens there.
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