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Post by atalasirion on Aug 16, 2016 7:46:57 GMT
Not only for that, but also to get my feelings down in a place where it won't be locked or deleted - ever. I'm not happy with the draconian deletions and thread lockings going on right now. People want to express their disappointment and talk about where to go after, and the mods are locking everything and dumping them all into 1 or 2 main threads, causing more chaos and stress. It is indeed draconian nonsense. Very frustrating, made even more frustrating since the mods were basically useless up until the news the forum would be closed, then proceeded to start handing out warnings like candy and banning left, right, up, and down for the most mundane and unfair reasons. For instance: i would love if someone who is still on official still existing bsn would inform people there i have been suspended for something that biomod02 called "abusive behaviour" whatever that means...sorry if this is kinda offtopic but i do not know where i should put that amazing news. anyway my suspension will end tomorrow. and i really do not know why exactly i was suspended. sure my post were kinda salty but do not broke any rules afaik. And this: I got the link to Fextra's thread about reclaiming user post history in my signature on the BWF. Edit: I made my final post on the forums. After getting a warning point for keep things on topic, I have had enough.Wow. I also had a post deleted. A post that was ignoring some current vitriol between posters and trying to change topics. Naturally, the actual posts with personal attacks remained. So when I found out about it, I made a post calling out the mods for deleting a post without telling me, and without telling me why, and asking how they expect me not to repeat a "wrong" if I don't know what I did "wrong" in the first place. I also wanted clarification of site-rules, and since mods don't answer PMs, I had to make a forum post (not a thread). So I've been banned for 48 hours. Makes sense. Apparently, asking for clarification on something is "discussing moderation" and ban-worthy Gah, if there is anything good about this, it's not dealing with those incompetent, unprofessional, unhelpful idiots again. Sorry, rant it is even more weird because while i was suspended my account recived another warning and now i have 4 in total, all gained in that topic thread, my 4th warning was because of spamming while i was suspended :/ how on earth i was spamming while i was not able to even view the forum?
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Post by Kantr on Aug 16, 2016 8:42:23 GMT
It's as if someone said to the moderation company. Become active and be assholes.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Aug 16, 2016 20:40:23 GMT
it is even more weird because while i was suspended my account recived another warning and now i have 4 in total, all gained in that topic thread, my 4th warning was because of spamming while i was suspended :/ how on earth i was spamming while i was not able to even view the forum? Well, they're fairly slow to catch up, so they probably banned you and then found more of your posts you'd already written and gave you even more warnings. Now, I have no doubt you weren't actually spamming, but that does make sense in a vacuum. Also, why can't we even access our own account while we're suspended? We can't change settings, see out own posts, or even send PMs, which should always be an option so you can PM mods and avoid unfairness. Not that they care about that though.
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Post by Kantr on Aug 16, 2016 21:19:21 GMT
Bansheee how come you dont have your rather sultry avatar on here?
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Aug 17, 2016 0:52:50 GMT
Bansheee how come you dont have your rather sultry avatar on here? You mean the one on the balcony with Cullen? I don't know. I uploaded it and everything, but the cartoony avatar had its charm. I will probably go back to it though. It would make me more recognizable. And is it sultry? I never thought of it that way
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Post by Kantr on Aug 17, 2016 8:46:25 GMT
Well the face Cullen is making when he looks over your shoulder
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Post by atalasirion on Aug 17, 2016 13:37:12 GMT
it is even more weird because while i was suspended my account recived another warning and now i have 4 in total, all gained in that topic thread, my 4th warning was because of spamming while i was suspended :/ how on earth i was spamming while i was not able to even view the forum? Well, it they're fairly slow to catch up, so they probably banned you and then found more of your posts you'd already written and gave you even more warnings. Now, I have no doubt you weren't actually spamming, but that does make sense in a vacuum. Also, why can't we even access our own account while we're suspended? We can't change settings, see out own posts, or even send PMs, which should always be an option so you can PM mods and avoid unfairness. Not that they care about that though. but the problem is in that day i made only 5 posts, not more so i really doubt it was spammy... i really do not know why they gave me a warning for spamming. and i do not know why we cannot acces our own profile, suspension should be like we are not able to give likes or answers but we still can watch it. i was not banned, only suspended for a day, it just do not make sense...
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Post by Kantr on Aug 17, 2016 14:19:07 GMT
It finally happened I got a bloody warning point for noting that someone's post was edited and then wondering why talking about it was worth a warning or a ban. I did expect it to happen but it's still very stupid. I even took a screenshot knowing it would be deleted (but then forgot to paste into paint) First ever warning but my points remain at zero
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 17, 2016 14:58:52 GMT
I'm expecting the last 7 days on BSN Prime to go poorly.
Traffic there continues to fall.
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Post by NRieh on Aug 17, 2016 16:00:00 GMT
I'm expecting the last 7 days on BSN Prime to go poorly. Traffic there continues to fall. I bet the Final Hours are going to be populated. I want to be there the moment before they go RO. (Being the last one to make a post would be a priceless achievement too, hehe)
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 17, 2016 16:07:59 GMT
I'm expecting the last 7 days on BSN Prime to go poorly. Traffic there continues to fall. I bet the Final Hours are going to be populated. I want to be there the moment before they go RO. (Being the last one to make a post would be a priceless achievement too, hehe) I'm expecting the lock will happen earlier than people expect. I think it will be as soon as it hits August 26th, i.e. midnight, Canadian Mountain Time.
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Post by Ahriman on Aug 17, 2016 17:35:47 GMT
I've noticed one problem. On "bioware forums" google doesn't give this site nor on first nor on second page. I'm no expert in google bots, but maybe you could use words "bioware forums" somewhere?
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 17, 2016 18:22:36 GMT
I've noticed one problem. On "bioware forums" google doesn't give this site nor on first nor on second page. I'm no expert in google bots, but maybe you could use words "bioware forums" somewhere? Well spotted, it's something the moderators have been discussing. And yes, dealing with our 'SEO' will be more keenly addressed once BSN Prime locks.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Aug 17, 2016 18:42:08 GMT
Well the face Cullen is making when he looks over your shoulder Ah, yeah, I can see that. Well fear not, I'll probably change it back soon. Well, it they're fairly slow to catch up, so they probably banned you and then found more of your posts you'd already written and gave you even more warnings. Now, I have no doubt you weren't actually spamming, but that does make sense in a vacuum. Also, why can't we even access our own account while we're suspended? We can't change settings, see out own posts, or even send PMs, which should always be an option so you can PM mods and avoid unfairness. Not that they care about that though. but the problem is in that day i made only 5 posts, not more so i really doubt it was spammy... i really do not know why they gave me a warning for spamming. and i do not know why we cannot acces our own profile, suspension should be like we are not able to give likes or answers but we still can watch it. i was not banned, only suspended for a day, it just do not make sense... Oh, I know you weren't actually spamming. The mods are ridiculous. Yeah, I thought you all it would do was stop you from interacting, not lock you out of your own account. That's lame. I'm expecting the lock will happen earlier than people expect. I think it will be as soon as it hits August 26th, i.e. midnight, Canadian Mountain Time. Actually, I think that's exactly when most people expect it to close
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Post by Sartoz on Aug 17, 2016 19:43:21 GMT
Snip That the mods were nowhere to be found until the last month. Snip <<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that it was Himself that closed threads left right and centre for the first week, after the announcement. Himself = Conal
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Post by Kantr on Aug 17, 2016 19:55:50 GMT
I wonder if I make a thread talking about moderation if I'll be banned for that.
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Post by Sartoz on Aug 17, 2016 20:02:26 GMT
I wonder if I make a thread talking about moderation if I'll be banned for that. <<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> Probable a mistake. he/she took moderation for moderator.
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Post by NRieh on Aug 17, 2016 21:36:11 GMT
I've noticed one problem. On "bioware forums" google doesn't give this site nor on first nor on second page. I'm no expert in google bots, but maybe you could use words "bioware forums" somewhere? That's not 'somewhere'. That's 'in all your damn headers, bolds and external links'. If I were...well, anyone other than an ex-web&SEO-something-retired-to-raise-kids, I'd have used the main soon-to-be-ex-BW forum for the latter, as much as it's possible. Unless those smarties have noindex on the signatures. It might be too late for that. We need as much 'BSN' links from the prime as we can get. It would be a waste to miss that opportunity.
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Post by Natashina on Aug 19, 2016 7:44:52 GMT
I was personally shocked and very touched that my goodbye post hit "Popular" status. Even when I posted last week it was slowing down and now...it's a few last posters hanging in there. Despite the utter stupidity of the warnings and bans. It's pretty sad to me two of my "Popular" posts are related to this whole closure. I'm still having trouble grasping what the actual fuck Bio-EA is thinking with the orders they've given the Modbots. The forums are their dime. They can do what they want with it. It sucks to high hell, but whatever. But they appear to actively running people off. Between folks simply bowing out and the amount of warning points going on, it's gone full retard. Jesus, I'm not a saint but even I felt like I was being run out of there. It was either stay and get warning points for asking folks to stay on topic or just to bow out gracefully. Seriously, are they trying to alienate as many posters as possible? And do they honestly think that some of those posters aren't going to go to social media to complain about this treatment? For fuck's sake, they can't block everyone that used to use or post in the BSN. They can try, but I think it was Banshee that pointed out that folks will make "egg" accounts just to dodge around blocks. It wouldn't surprise me if they put the entirety of Twitter on auto-mute save the other devs and writers. They've motivated me to find my FB and Twitter passwords. I'll be tactful, but if they want feedback they are going to get an eye full. Several tweets even. Heh, I almost spelled that as twits. Either way... I'm not going to mock any dev for needing therapy after the ME3 debacle. I'm not and it's kinda shameful to me to see people doing so. The behavior that a very sick and loud minority did to some of those people makes therapy understandable. However, it's interviews like that which have cemented the BSN's reputation as this god awful place full of god awful people. I'm betting that other game developers have gone through that kind of therapy after online bullying, but they don't make articles crying about how shitty their fans on the forums are. BioWare used to be more than a game company to me. I always felt that it had it's own identity and sense of community that separated itself from it's publisher. I was so damn naive. I guess you're never too old to have someone/something on a pedestal. I suppose I did. Lesson learned, bitter pill swallowed.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 19, 2016 10:42:52 GMT
The need to improve our community's visibility is getting serious and we need your help please: I have no reason to believe that those at the top of BioWare want to kill off all 'long form' fanbases, but here are some inconvenient facts: - 93% of traffic on BSN Prime comes from guests following google links - we don't have that.
- BSN Prime has backlinks 'disabled' for google purposes, so any 'here are our lifeboat' posts don't get traction.
- Whilst this forum is now more active on a daily basis (sometimes by x2) than BSN Prime among registered members,
the 30,000 posts we've created don't actually create any google traffic. - However successful our community is, unless those that are still unaware that BSN Prime is closing, and new fans post-N7 Day can find us, we will not grow.
Suggestions for action (SEO aware please suggest more): One. Share to as many people on BSN Prime Signature suggestion: >1,000 fans of Mass Effect and Dragon Age landed at the new BSN forums. bsn.boards.net Will you make it? Two. Welcome those from other smaller fragmenting forums At one point there were 7 competing forums (many of us joined several), please welcome those people back here. It isn't a competition, we were all looking for the best option with best intentions, so everyone is welcome. This forum presents a clean slate for all. (we can always ban people again if they behave like an ass, but they have a choice not to be). Three. Twitter / Reddit / other sub-optimal locations No need to spam, but let people know we are here. Follow us on Twitter: twitter.com/BSNforums Share our forum: bsn.boards.net/ Let none of us underestimate the task of building and maintaining a fan community without the marketing pull of EA/BioWare. Please do what you can.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 11:24:00 GMT
I've wrapped everything up now on BSN, exchanging emails, saving images and moving conversations on to the messaging site here. I'm not waiting till the last minute just in case they do pull the plug or ban me or something like that. So if anyone has any unfinished business, don't be complacent.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 11:28:49 GMT
The need to improve our community's visibility is getting serious and we need your help please: I have no reason to believe that those at the top of BioWare want to kill off all 'long form' fanbases, but here are some inconvenient facts: - 93% of traffic on BSN Prime comes from guests following google links - we don't have that.
- BSN Prime has backlinks 'disabled' for google purposes, so any 'here are our lifeboat' posts don't get traction.
- Whilst this forum is now more active on a daily basis (sometimes by x2) than BSN Prime among registered members,
the 30,000 posts we've created don't actually create any google traffic. - However successful our community is, unless those that are still unaware that BSN Prime is closing, and new fans post-N7 Day can find us, we will not grow.
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I'll try, though I don't have much of an online presence. Well, for gaming related stuff anyway. So, what would it take for this forum to show up on the first page of google when someone types in a question? Like 'Make Leliana Divine' or 'Harden Alistair' or 'Should I cure the genophage?'. Currently BSN is top for all of that, followed by other sites (which usually don't have as good of an answer). That's how I found BSN, asking those type of questions. Would it be as simple as making threads with very clear titles like that and us all contributing to them, or is a lot more required?
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Post by NRieh on Aug 19, 2016 12:42:02 GMT
So, what would it take for this forum to show up on the first page of google when someone types in a question? Like 'Make Leliana Divine' or 'Harden Alistair' or 'Should I cure the genophage?'. Currently BSN is top for all of that, followed by other sites (which usually don't have as good of an answer). That's how I found BSN, asking those type of questions. Would it be as simple as making threads with very clear titles like that and us all contributing to them, or is a lot more required? BSN Prime is going to sink eventually, after the pages are taken down. The only way to take its place is...tadam! ...to make threads and discuss the subjects. No way around it. Proper thread naming and tagging would help, but we need those 'landing pages' to begin with. By the way, If we are lucky some gaming sites might mention this place in their 'BW-went-offline' news. Not sure about how to make it happen, as it would be the adds (technically), but if someone knows someone who might know someone - it's about time to contact them. I suggest ' BSN.BOARDS.NET, new forum for the Bioware gamers'. Even if they had scripted some kind of nofollow on their signature links, that's our URL in plain text combined with words 'Bioware' and 'forum' in a link. People who miss the dramma are most likely to google for 'bioware forums' or '*insert game name* forums'.
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Post by Natashina on Aug 19, 2016 14:14:51 GMT
@sofa: I apologize that I'm not on the BWF anymore. The link to this place on my signature and on my About Me page. I'm still lurking around incase of PMs and I'm on the third import list for my posts. If anymore stragglers from my friend's list gives me a message I'll send them here.
I'm pretty burned out and disheartened. I don't want to go back. There is a particular poster that's harassed me over little things like asterisks in the past. I'm not giving him an excuse to indulge in his favorite interest in reporting people. Ugh, what some bastards will do to prove a point.
I'm about to go out of town on a much needed mini-vacation, but I'll dig up my Twitter password and do what I can when I get back on Sunday night.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 19, 2016 15:05:27 GMT
As Nrieh rightly explains. 'good' SEO gives from this bring a vibrant place that others mention. That doesn't stop us from dropping by other places that BioWare and Mass Effect are discussed and mentioning we are here. Particularly linking good threads and in time good articles.
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