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Post by ostepop on Apr 8, 2017 16:46:20 GMT
So... what's the consensus on these?
I'm old and frequently inebriated while playing, so my aim is sub par. To compensate I like being really close. While not having many viable shotguns, I have done ok on lower difficulties with ruzad on a human. Is it something to take into gold difficulty? I've not even tried gold yet, but would like to soon. Could solo it on quite a few characters in me3, but that's a while back heh.
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Post by LemurFromTheId on Apr 8, 2017 16:57:22 GMT
Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by kalil on Apr 8, 2017 17:01:47 GMT
Shotguns are a bit underpowered atm (except piranha appatently) . The two pistols Talon and Equalizer works well for CQC tho.
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Post by pitka17 on Apr 8, 2017 17:03:13 GMT
Consensus is there is nothing that hits hard enough to be worth using in the shotgun category. Maybe the Dahn, but the ball sometimes just misses at close range (like the harpoon gun did in ME3MP). If you look at ME3MP Charged Graal/Geth or Reegar or the amazing one I can't name recall at this exact moment... they did 2-3 times more than MEA choices. And the choke doesn't work on shotguns. At least pre-patch. The Pirahna does good damage, but without a choke you should just be a melee build at that range. The talon is actually the best "shotgun".
Snipers didn't get the 50% damage nerf, therefore a Sniper is always a better choice. Unless you want to do half damage.
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Post by missileglitcher on Apr 8, 2017 17:03:34 GMT
You could potentially use a hesh or scattershot, but to make them viable you'd need level 4 ammo and level 4 shotgun amp, otherwise they do zero damage.
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Apr 8, 2017 17:04:11 GMT
Haven't tried it myself. What shotgun would you use? I guess if you had a Piranha. I don't.......I got the Rozerad IV tho!!!!!
Talon prob good too.
Tbh I wouldn't waste my time with any of the guns in this game.....well we got the makeshift balance patch with the ammo consumables if you have enough, but I'm sure that won't last now that its posted here.
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Post by nanotm on Apr 8, 2017 17:05:05 GMT
So... what's the consensus on these? I'm old and frequently inebriated while playing, so my aim is sub par. To compensate I like being really close. While not having many viable shotguns, I have done ok on lower difficulties with ruzad on a human. Is it something to take into gold difficulty? I've not even tried gold yet, but would like to soon. Could solo it on quite a few characters in me3, but that's a while back heh. the talon has the same punch factor in terms of unloading ammo into mobs, with the pistol magazine and barrel mod it will be even more effect + its slightly lighter so you can pack a backup weapon with it. I prefer vanguard with talon for that reason rather than shotguns, also the talon seems to me like its doing considerably more damage per shot than most of the actual shotguns.... if I ever get the hurricane I might use that instead of the charger smg as the backup weapon as well but the RNG system doesn't seem to like me yet  |
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Post by No Snakes Alive on Apr 8, 2017 17:23:16 GMT
Dhan on a melee-spec'd Huntress is dope af but only really to provide staggers when you can't with Throw or Lance if you get caught on cooldown. But hey if you're too old and drunk to aim proper you may wanna go the melee route anyway.
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Post by someN7orother on Apr 8, 2017 18:09:54 GMT
Agreed. Shotguns, on the other hand... |
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Post by nucleartech76 on Apr 8, 2017 18:56:25 GMT
Shotguns just suck at this point other than the piranha. Talon is probably your best shotgun.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 8, 2017 18:57:34 GMT
I guess the Piranha. Most shotguns are awful atm.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Apr 8, 2017 19:50:46 GMT
I kick infiltrators that don't equip the Vanquisher while farming Outlaw/Gold games.
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 8, 2017 21:38:39 GMT
I feel like it's only good with the piranha. Piranha on a human or salarian infiltrator with max damage combat cloak is strong though.
My first gold runs was with a dhan on human infiltrator, I wouldn't call that a good setup though since the dhan is pretty underwhelming, but if you must use it a human infiltrator is the way to go since you can get it up to 3 in the mag and the damage boost obviously helps.
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Post by gethadept on Apr 8, 2017 22:34:19 GMT
Not even remotely as effective as ME3MP shotgun infiltrator.
U will find yourself relying on grenade and melee more than your cloak boosted shotgun.
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 8, 2017 22:50:27 GMT
Not even remotely as effective as ME3MP shotgun infiltrator. U will find yourself relying on grenade and melee more than your cloak boosted shotgun. If smart choke actually worked and piranha wasn't the only good shotgun then it would probably be more viable. As it stands I've been running an smg infiltrator since I don't have a piranha and I'm bored of sniping. I loved shotgun infiltrator in 3 but the lack of options in this just makes it impossible at the moment. I crie That said, to op, running an equalizer or hurricane works well as long as you max out stickies and you take all damage upgrades + rank 6 combat cloak, it's an effective setup, was rolling throgh golds with that setup earlier. |
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Post by mrfuddyduddy on Apr 8, 2017 22:53:16 GMT
Not even remotely as effective as ME3MP shotgun infiltrator. U will find yourself relying on grenade and melee more than your cloak boosted shotgun. Only shotgun I could see being viable on the Infiltrator is the Dhan, or if your playing single player the Disciple for whatever reason deals like 900+ damage at Rank VII in my game for whatever reason looking at its blueprint. The Dhan however is unreliable as f*** and its single projectile while fairly large often time drifts, either too little or too much and will often times completely miss. It was the only shotgun I used in the Single Player and haven't gotten one yet to try in the multiplayer. |
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 8, 2017 22:57:24 GMT
Not even remotely as effective as ME3MP shotgun infiltrator. U will find yourself relying on grenade and melee more than your cloak boosted shotgun. Only shotgun I could see being viable on the Infiltrator is the Dhan, or if your playing single player the Disciple for whatever reason deals like 900+ damage at Rank VII in my game for whatever reason looking at its blueprint. The Dhan however is unreliable as f*** and its single projectile while fairly large often time drifts, either too little or too much and will often times completely miss. It was the only shotgun I used in the Single Player and haven't gotten one yet to try in the multiplayer. Dhan isn't horrible on a human infiltrator since it gets 3 in the mag with the rank 5 passive bonus. But it's not really good either. Dhan is just really wonky and unreliable. It's stats aren't good either. I don't get why it does less damage than something like a black widow or vanquisher when they have 3 and 4 in the mag and are hitscan, while dhan has 2, a slow reload and a wonky slow travelling projectile heavily affected by lag and unpredictable enemy strafing (looking at you pariahs and new sharpshooter). |
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Post by mrfuddyduddy on Apr 8, 2017 23:11:27 GMT
Only shotgun I could see being viable on the Infiltrator is the Dhan, or if your playing single player the Disciple for whatever reason deals like 900+ damage at Rank VII in my game for whatever reason looking at its blueprint. The Dhan however is unreliable as f*** and its single projectile while fairly large often time drifts, either too little or too much and will often times completely miss. It was the only shotgun I used in the Single Player and haven't gotten one yet to try in the multiplayer. Dhan isn't horrible on a human infiltrator since it gets 3 in the mag with the rank 5 passive bonus. But it's not really good either. Dhan is just really wonky and unreliable. It's stats aren't good either. I don't get why it does less damage than something like a black widow or vanquisher when they have 3 and 4 in the mag and are hitscan, while dhan has 2, a slow reload and a wonky slow travelling projectile heavily affected by lag and unpredictable enemy strafing (looking at you pariahs and new sharpshooter). Yeah I've heard the Dhan took some hits going from the SP to the MP. The Dhan I use in the SP is rank VII and deals 1200+ damage. If it hit even close to that hard I would say its a decent trade off, because when that son of a b**** hits something it ain't getting back up. |
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Post by ramsen on Apr 8, 2017 23:35:12 GMT
Talon is great if you have the magazine size mod. Human Inf has good synergy with it if you have the debuff per shot at munitions rank 6. I'm assuming each pellet/bullet is it's own instance for the debuff, which makes sense logically, but anything is possible.
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Post by cosmiccricket on Apr 9, 2017 1:04:20 GMT
Human Infil + Dhan, Talon or Piranha all check out. I kill things just as fast as I do with the Vanq, and have a lot more fun doing it.
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Post by ostepop on Apr 9, 2017 7:23:31 GMT
Thanks for the replies and advice. The current build goes for shotgun/melee synergy, maybe it will get better with practise. As for suggested guns... well, I wish I had those.  |
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Post by Geitenneuker on Apr 9, 2017 11:23:07 GMT
Forget the Dhan, misses half its shots at point blank.
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Post by spacev3gan on Apr 9, 2017 12:31:00 GMT
Ruzad is pretty awful, except for its melee damage bonus. Use it only for melee, not for shooting. It is absolutely viable for Gold when it comes to melee builds, though it is not ideal for Infiltrators.
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 9, 2017 13:05:35 GMT
Ruzad is pretty awful, except for its melee damage bonus. Use it only for melee, not for shooting. It is absolutely viable for Gold when it comes to melee builds, though it is not ideal for Infiltrators. Does that small (5%?) bonus even matter? If it still takes two melee hits to kill something, the extra small bonus is not very functional. A weapon that could help kill in between melee or when you need to play further back would be far more valuable... |
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Post by wnieves1 on Apr 9, 2017 20:06:17 GMT
Just finished a gold lobby shotgun human infiltrator run. Max cards unlocked level 20.
Spec out of incinerate, sticky grenade for range and combat Cloak 2 seconds.
Skipped melee went with precision and weapon efficiency.
Only have level 10 Katana with level 10 mods. choke and melee optimizer.
Spammed bombs while cloaked, fire shotgun. 1-2 rounds while cloaked. Sticky grenade don't break Cloak. On gold it takes 1-3 shots on low level tier enemies. full 5 on mid.
Bosses take all five bombs and full clip to take out. Spent half the time running to ammo boxes.
It's doable but you need to be running and jumping all the time. Evading perk bonus to survive.
I just went after bosses and ran by low level enemies.
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