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Post by Urizen on Apr 11, 2017 4:31:39 GMT
Just look at the Mattock. If it is not bad, they will make sure it is bad. That`s why guns are bad. 7 headshots and a couple bodyshots later, a simple chosen still lives. The mattock is utter shyte right now. Don´t get me wrong, it wasn´t much better beforehand either, but they chose to balance around the wrong stat. The rof was never an issue with it, it was damage. Now if you excuse me, I´ve to bang my head against the wall in lieu of bws stream.
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Post by malanek on Apr 11, 2017 5:00:16 GMT
It could well be because people were bitching and moaning about how the game needed to be more cooperative than ME3mper. So now you need 4 people shooting and spamming powers together to kill things at the same speed. If the devs did base the game around that philosophy then those people have a lot to answer for.
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Post by zorinho20 on Apr 11, 2017 5:01:39 GMT
Weapons suck on Gold, because they are balanced for Bronze. Simple as that.
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Post by No Snakes Alive on Apr 11, 2017 5:07:20 GMT
1:06:50 They took out heavy melee because it's too risky to be tied down to an action that long in MEAMP. What the actual fuck.
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Post by andy_3_913 on Apr 11, 2017 5:39:21 GMT
Out of curiosity, is anyone familiar with either of these guys work on other games? Because damn they seem clueless. Think Buskell worked on DAI. If I remember correctly, he seemed to be in a livestream called dragons and donuts quite often according to my Twitch notifications. Not sure about the other one.
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Post by hardcoresalmon on Apr 11, 2017 5:46:10 GMT
I don't even....the amount of cringe....
These guys have no idea what they are talking about. The balance team in ME3 said and did a lot of things that I didn't understand or agree with but I still thought they had a good grasp of how powerful weapons should be.
But this....it's like they used the vanilla eagle as a benchmark for everything except snipers.
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Post by 3rdpig on Apr 11, 2017 5:54:29 GMT
MP is a total hot mess. It's not disappointing to me that it's a hot mess, it's disappointing in that they think it's not. Because that means they have no plans to fix it.
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Post by argentus on Apr 11, 2017 5:54:40 GMT
1:02:50 They discuss weapon weight and cooldowns. Basically they say that they didn't like how people min/maxed for low casting times by using just one weapon, so they took the recharge bonuses out so you can carry a pistol as a back-up. 1:06:50 They took out heavy melee because it's too risky to be tied down to an action that long in MEAMP. whaaaaattttt?! 1) People STILL only use one weapon before there's really no POINT to carrying two weapons in the multiplayer. you are always 3 seconds away from an ammo box. Better off carrying a single high power weapon that keeps you *around* 100 recharge. Only time i've ever used a pistol so far is specifically because the Scorpion compliments the Angaran Avenger kit way too well (Stun on Avenger Strike isn't ended by loading them up with scorpion grenades, so 5 second stun means BURY THEM IN EXPLOSIVES. ALL THE STICKY GRENADES!) 2) ....what? "Too risky to be tied down to an action that long?!" If my krogan could heavy melee, the ability to one shot stuff while raged would offset the slow chargeup for heavy melee. Especially stupid because you can't do repeated melees in Andromeda because the melee doesn't Lock on/home in like it used to so if I try to melee more than once it just results in my character flying off in the wrong direction as the enemy sidestepped me after the first hit. Oh my god this is stupid. I guess at least we all know for certain now that this MP won't have the same longevity of ME3mp.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Apr 11, 2017 6:25:58 GMT
This......explains a lot. Smh.
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Post by KLGChaos on Apr 11, 2017 6:34:55 GMT
Certain guns are decent... On the right classes. A Havoc Soldier with a Revenant and Turbo Charge melts things in the air. The problem is, that class is made for using guns. Most of the classes aren't and rely much more on their powers, which are also weak. So you've got a bunch of classes with no gun bonuses and crappy powers with weak combos to boot.
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Post by CursedPanther on Apr 11, 2017 6:35:47 GMT
Perhaps bioware needs to implement extensive drug testing before the next round of extensive testing. No drug test will be enough to save it. It's in the hands of a bunch of fucking baboons.
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Post by kalil on Apr 11, 2017 6:36:14 GMT
Now wait just a second.... Have we finally found one SINGLE topic upon which the entire BSN agrees? Do _every_ single person here agree that the persons responsible for ensuring the balance, enjoyability and long-term validity of this game are a pair of bumbling baffoons that scrub out on bronze? That would be an amazing world first!
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Post by Leland Gaunt on Apr 11, 2017 6:41:13 GMT
Perhaps this game really is in the hands of idiots. I didn't want to think that, but after seeing/reading this, it is the only sensible explanation left. Damn.
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Post by Abramsrunner on Apr 11, 2017 6:45:18 GMT
The P.A.W. is literally worse than the Avenger, & knowing these guys they'd nerf the Avenger after what they did with the Mattock. lmao
< MRW these two guy are calling the balance shots, when they call the P.A.W. the "Strongest Assault Rifle" in the game.
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Post by obsidian on Apr 11, 2017 6:47:17 GMT
I was so thrilled when I finally got the Mattock from one of those fucking rng crates. Flashbacks happened, a wide smile crept int my face... I remembered those glorious days back in ME3 where I rocked platinum with my mattock x on a biotic, dishing out solid damage and pulling my weight through the tough as nails banshee/phantom/pretorian mobs.
So, with a raging hardon that I finally could drop my avenger, I equipped my newly found favorite gun to the turian havoc, entered bronze and... Ended up doing melee the entire game cause my once beloved mattock was now as effective as a butter knife. No, less than that, considering that you can actually hurt someone with a fucking butter knife.
Fuck you, bioware. How is this rubber ball shooting ripoff viable as a uncommon weapon?! Just a little rant I needed to get off my chest.
Guns need like a 50% dmg increase imo. Same as powers. Increase the number of enemies to keep it challanging, but, for the love of god, make the guns and the gear effective. This shit is so frustrating.
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Post by zorinho20 on Apr 11, 2017 6:50:05 GMT
The P.A.W. is literally worse than the Avenger, & knowing these guys they'd nerf the Avenger after what they did with the Mattock. lmao < MRW these two guy are calling the balance shots, when they call the P.A.W. the "Strongest Assault Rifle" in the game. Nerf the Avenger? Oh boy,that made me laugh
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Post by TormDK on Apr 11, 2017 6:59:07 GMT
I would love to see the comparison of how many are playing this still compared to ME3 at this point. I can feel people are leaving because everyday my Apex rank goes up pretty steady and faster. ...and I don`t even play that much... It evens out at around 10.000 in rating, after that you have about everything up to, and including rares.
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Post by stysiaq on Apr 11, 2017 7:01:26 GMT
1:06:50 They took out heavy melee because it's too risky to be tied down to an action that long in MEAMP. What the actual fuck. BioWare wanted to avoid taking more risks after outsourcing lip-sync to some hillybillies in Bumfuck, Tennessee And heavy melee was a high-risk high-reward* move. Now you have no risk, no reward. *actually it was minimal risk - mediocre reward, or just fun all around
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Post by d4rkfallen on Apr 11, 2017 7:07:45 GMT
Hey now those "game changers" did extensive testing & game was perfect no need to beta
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Post by valorofarms777 on Apr 11, 2017 7:25:33 GMT
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I give up mentally thinking.
I'm not "cringe" no
I'm just awe struck that they prob won't listen
EA cut off the MEA original forums and balance groups.
It's just a dream we had that is now in the hands of fools that couldn't get anything correct and believe their "basis" of fans that the grand whole MIGHT honestly be right and these stupid balances being done are...outright just "dumb"
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Post by xaijin on Apr 11, 2017 7:31:35 GMT
Insulation is a hell of a drug.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 8:28:35 GMT
1:02:50 They discuss weapon weight and cooldowns. Basically they say that they didn't like how people min/maxed for low casting times by using just one weapon, so they took the recharge bonuses out so you can carry a pistol as a back-up. 1:06:50 They took out heavy melee because it's too risky to be tied down to an action that long in MEAMP. whaaaaattttt?! 1) People STILL only use one weapon before there's really no POINT to carrying two weapons in the multiplayer. you are always 3 seconds away from an ammo box. Better off carrying a single high power weapon that keeps you *around* 100 recharge. Only time i've ever used a pistol so far is specifically because the Scorpion compliments the Angaran Avenger kit way too well (Stun on Avenger Strike isn't ended by loading them up with scorpion grenades, so 5 second stun means BURY THEM IN EXPLOSIVES. ALL THE STICKY GRENADES!) 2) ....what? "Too risky to be tied down to an action that long?!" If my krogan could heavy melee, the ability to one shot stuff while raged would offset the slow chargeup for heavy melee. Especially stupid because you can't do repeated melees in Andromeda because the melee doesn't Lock on/home in like it used to so if I try to melee more than once it just results in my character flying off in the wrong direction as the enemy sidestepped me after the first hit. Oh my god this is stupid. I guess at least we all know for certain now that this MP won't have the same longevity of ME3mp. Actually, being able to carry two weapons (and sometimes two weapons of the same type) on a lot of kits might be a game changer to me. Haven't experimented a lot with it yet, but I like that, I "see what they did here". I must say some UR revolves too much around this idea (Valkyrie or Rozerad, for instance, are very light), and are subpar weapons for that reason.
I used the Piranha and the Scorpion a lot in the beginning, and it eats ammo very fast. I thought running to the ammo boxes so many times broke my momentum.
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Post by zorinho20 on Apr 11, 2017 8:36:05 GMT
Vanquisher,Piranha and Thokin are my favorite sidearms.
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 11, 2017 8:45:26 GMT
I mean technically they arent wrong since most assault rifles are pea shooters
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Post by kalil on Apr 11, 2017 9:02:45 GMT
If they wanted us to use two weapons they are doing it all wrong. By just reducing weights across the board all they are accomplishing is to allow us to carry a single super-heavy sniper without taking a hit to cooldowns. They are basically accomplishing the polar opposite to their objective.
Correct solution: Let weapons have weights that correctly reflects their performance. Give each of the two weapon slots a "free allowance". Exmaple: If you equip a single weapon with a weight of 100 your weight would be 100-25=75. And if you equip two weapons with weight 60 and 40 your total weight would be 60-25+40-25=50. How hard can it be?
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