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Post by duckley on Aug 31, 2016 4:18:28 GMT
Does it matter which advisor leads the Sutherland war table missions. I started using Cullen but switched to Josie as my other two advisors were busy. All of a sudden the chain of missions ended...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 31, 2016 4:56:37 GMT
Yes, for some of his missions it requires you to use a certain adviser.
In order: New to the Crew: A Young Hopeful: Cullen A Patrol for the Crew: Cullen Outfitting the Crew: Any(only difference is cosmetic in what kind of gear they have. Josephine gives them Light Armor, Leliana gives them Medium Armor, Cullen gives them Heavy Armor) A Test of Mettle and the Crew: Leliana A Crew of Ambassadors: Any A Crew of Adventurers: Any Sutherland and Company Missing: Any(unlocks quests where you have to go to the Storm Coast to help them) A Company of Heroes: Any
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Post by naughtynomad on Aug 31, 2016 5:39:41 GMT
You can tell most of this by actually reading the operation text. Leliana recommends that Sutherland become a kitchen boy, so if you use him for that, that's all he ever becomes and the chain ends.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 31, 2016 11:22:07 GMT
That is the thing about War Table missions. Some of them it doesn't matter who you use, usually the ones that are only single episodes, where the difference is in the amount of time it takes and the rewards you receive.
However, with others, particularly the ones where it can result in a sequence of related missions, it is vitally important that you select the right one for the string. In addition to the Sutherland string, there is the sequence for Grey Wardens (if you don't banish them), for the Belles of Hunter's Fell and for Lavellan's personal clan missions (if you are an elf). With each of these the outcome can be disastrous if you choose wrong.
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Post by wickedcool on Aug 31, 2016 12:20:54 GMT
Had no idea the quest ended a certain way depending on advisor. Any other npcs show up for other wartable quests
Ive always picked them based on time
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Post by naughtynomad on Aug 31, 2016 12:35:33 GMT
There are a few more that have different outcomes or that can end early depending on Advisor. Namely which Red Jenny you choose to contact. And the Forging Alliances chain which culminates in the wedding.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Aug 31, 2016 12:59:17 GMT
You can tell most of this by actually reading the operation text. Leliana recommends that Sutherland become a kitchen boy, so if you use him for that, that's all he ever becomes and the chain ends. Yeah... Some of the missions required that you actually read to determine the desired outcome. Note that I say "desired," because what is the "best" will depend on your own roleplay. For example, I like to enable the young Orlesian couple to get married, but that is because of my Inquisitor RP, whereas your Inquisitor might not care, or be into the idea of the Game and so plays along with it. The Belle's of Hunter Fell is another series of missions where you CAN figure it out based on the clues provided, but you need to read and likely take notes so that you can recall the path you're on and use a process of elimination to determine the agent. There are several such missions where the choice of advisor determines the outcome of the events, even if it doesn't change the ultimate reward for the Inquisitor. These choices, like many of the dialogue options, are about roleplay. There is one series that involves sending aid, or not, to a Chantry priest. If you decide to send aid and her party survives, later on you can decide whether she can retire to a small chantry, or should aid the Inquisition and be assigned to a more notable position where she can have influence. Nothing in the game actually changes as a result of this, but it's the choices that your Inquisitor make that matter. That is the thing about War Table missions. Some of them it doesn't matter who you use, usually the ones that are only single episodes, where the difference is in the amount of time it takes and the rewards you receive. However, with others, particularly the ones where it can result in a sequence of related missions, it is vitally important that you select the right one for the string. In addition to the Sutherland string, there is the sequence for Grey Wardens (if you don't banish them), for the Belles of Hunter's Fell and for Lavellan's personal clan missions (if you are an elf). With each of these the outcome can be disastrous if you choose wrong. Well, they all matter in determining the type of Inquisition you will have, as the majority of type chosen determines the type of Inquisition you have build by the end of the game, whether it is one that focuses on military might, uses subterfuge to manipulate events, or relies on diplomacy to smooth the way. However, that doesn't actually do anything beyond change the epilogue and Morrigan's statement about it, so that may not matter to some people. But again, it's about roleplay.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 31, 2016 13:22:46 GMT
That's true but sometimes I wonder whether it also depends on which tile you choose in opening up new areas. Very often that can have all 3 offered but there seems no real difference so it must go towards determining your type of Inquisition. Also the ones where you are just gathering resources. So you might think one particular resource is more what you want but it is not the right advisor for your "type". I say this because one run I thought I was mostly choosing diplomatic and spy options for the missions and yet I ended up with a military organisation. Plus taking the "right" advisor for your "type" can mess up the sequences. So I stopped bothering about what sort of organisation I was going to be, since you can change it in the Keep if it doesn't work out right, and focussed on getting the outcomes I wanted.
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Post by saberchic on Aug 31, 2016 14:09:13 GMT
Had no idea the quest ended a certain way depending on advisor. Any other npcs show up for other wartable quests Ive always picked them based on time I ignore time and pick by whichever option sounds best by whatever advisor to that inquisitor.
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Post by naughtynomad on Aug 31, 2016 14:24:01 GMT
Yeah, especially if you download the mod that makes all war table mission instant. :-)
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Post by saberchic on Aug 31, 2016 14:30:46 GMT
Yeah, especially if you download the mod that makes all war table mission instant. :-) I didn't know there was such a mod. I assumed everyone making it instant just sped up their clocks. LOL
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Aug 31, 2016 18:02:13 GMT
Don't leave it to chance. Whenever you have a War Table mission you've never run before, or even if you have run it but aren't sure which advisor to choose, refer to the guide linked below. There are a lot of chains that are dependent on advisor choices, more than listed above. Some are dependent on what race your IQ is, some are dependent on which companion you have, some on which agent you recruited or quest you completed. Even if it is not a chain, if you'd rather have Influence than gold, this guide shows you which advisor gives what. dragonage3.wiki.fextralife.com/War+Table
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Post by Iakus on Aug 31, 2016 18:14:19 GMT
That is the thing about War Table missions. Some of them it doesn't matter who you use, usually the ones that are only single episodes, where the difference is in the amount of time it takes and the rewards you receive. However, with others, particularly the ones where it can result in a sequence of related missions, it is vitally important that you select the right one for the string. In addition to the Sutherland string, there is the sequence for Grey Wardens (if you don't banish them), for the Belles of Hunter's Fell and for Lavellan's personal clan missions (if you are an elf). With each of these the outcome can be disastrous if you choose wrong. The Belles chain doesn't really require guesswork. But you do have to pay attention to the clues your agents supply you with. I had to jot them down on a piece of paper to keep them straight.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 31, 2016 18:37:39 GMT
Yes, that was my problem first time round. I played one night, came back the next and couldn't remember what had gone before. There was also the problem that sometimes I kept wanting to use the same advisor and the number of outstanding quests was mounting up because of the time some of them took. I then realised that the timer keeps going even when you are not playing, so I made sure I waited to do the lengthy quests at the War Table just before signing off for the night. Then by the time I returned the following day, it was usually done.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 18:41:31 GMT
Don't leave it to chance. Whenever you have a War Table mission you've never run before, or even if you have run it but aren't sure which advisor to choose, refer to the guide linked below. There are a lot of chains that are dependent on advisor choices, more than listed above. Some are dependent on what race your IQ is, some are dependent on which companion you have, some on which agent you recruited or quest you completed. Even if it is not a chain, if you'd rather have Influence than gold, this guide shows you which advisor gives what. dragonage3.wiki.fextralife.com/War+TableThe Lavellan clan is a big chain!
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Post by Iakus on Aug 31, 2016 18:53:53 GMT
The Lavellan story is a minefield!
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Post by duckley on Sept 1, 2016 0:02:23 GMT
I screwed up with the Lavellen clan
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Post by duckley on Sept 1, 2016 0:03:44 GMT
Yes, for some of his missions it requires you to use a certain adviser. In order: New to the Crew: A Young Hopeful: Cullen A Patrol for the Crew: Cullen Outfitting the Crew: Any(only difference is cosmetic in what kind of gear they have. Josephine gives them Light Armor, Leliana gives them Medium Armor, Cullen gives them Heavy Armor) A Test of Mettle and the Crew: Leliana A Crew of Ambassadors: Any A Crew of Adventurers: Any Sutherland and Company Missing: Any(unlocks quests where you have to go to the Storm Coast to help them) A Company of Heroes: Any Thanks much!!
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Post by naughtynomad on Sept 1, 2016 3:31:42 GMT
Also if you want to RP that you're on good relations with Kal'sharok Dwarves, you need to use Leliana because both Cullen and Josephine's advice leads to failure.
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Post by thesupremedarkone on Sept 1, 2016 4:15:38 GMT
That is the thing about War Table missions. Some of them it doesn't matter who you use, usually the ones that are only single episodes, where the difference is in the amount of time it takes and the rewards you receive. However, with others, particularly the ones where it can result in a sequence of related missions, it is vitally important that you select the right one for the string. In addition to the Sutherland string, there is the sequence for Grey Wardens (if you don't banish them), for the Belles of Hunter's Fell and for Lavellan's personal clan missions (if you are an elf). With each of these the outcome can be disastrous if you choose wrong. The Belles chain doesn't really require guesswork. But you do have to pay attention to the clues your agents supply you with. I had to jot them down on a piece of paper to keep them straight. Or just choose Leliana at the end.
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