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Post by osito on Apr 12, 2017 0:04:12 GMT
Based on my experience so far (which I accept to be relatively limited) it seems to me that for any class you can do the best by just equipping the best sniper rifle and largely ignoring skills. Certainly seems to be possible to do this up to silver, but that's obviously not the best measure. I'm not trying to argue this is true, just saying it's been my experience so far, so I hope there are some good contrary opinions.
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Post by acicm2 on Apr 12, 2017 0:10:42 GMT
did you play ME3 mp when it first came out? you would get kicked out of a gold lobby if you didn't have a infiltrator. this path is better.
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Post by kaind on Apr 12, 2017 0:11:44 GMT
Classes don't matter too much, they are just flavor. You use powers to support your gun play - stagger, reposition, surviveability these are the things you are looking for in your powers. At higher difficulty all the damaging powers fall off. So if you are using say a singularity you are using it to CC targets and to deal 20% more damage to anything affected by your biotics, as opposed to using singularity to detonate your enemies, because that damage is minuscule.
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Post by kaind on Apr 12, 2017 0:12:18 GMT
did you play ME3 mp when it first came out? you would get kicked out of a gold lobby if you didn't have a infiltrator. this path is better. No it was Asari adepts running around with Carnifex. |
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Post by Ryoku on Apr 12, 2017 0:14:23 GMT
Based on my experience so far (which I accept to be relatively limited) it seems to me that for any class you can do the best by just equipping the best sniper rifle and largely ignoring skills. Certainly seems to be possible to do this up to silver, but that's obviously not the best measure. I'm not trying to argue this is true, just saying it's been my experience so far, so I hope there are some good contrary opinions. It's also possible to completely ignore guns and use nothing but skills and punching in gold, I barely use my guns, only time I do is then I run into an Observer or Boss really. |
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Post by osito on Apr 12, 2017 0:14:47 GMT
No, I played the trilogy to death, but I never tried the multiplayer till MEA, so it is a genuine, relatively uninformed, question.
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Post by kaind on Apr 12, 2017 0:16:15 GMT
Based on my experience so far (which I accept to be relatively limited) it seems to me that for any class you can do the best by just equipping the best sniper rifle and largely ignoring skills. Certainly seems to be possible to do this up to silver, but that's obviously not the best measure. I'm not trying to argue this is true, just saying it's been my experience so far, so I hope there are some good contrary opinions. It's also possible to completely ignore guns and use nothing but skills and punching in gold, I barely use my guns, only time I do is then I run into an Observer or Boss really. That is a significantly slower approach to kill enemies. |
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Post by osito on Apr 12, 2017 0:17:55 GMT
Based on my experience so far (which I accept to be relatively limited) it seems to me that for any class you can do the best by just equipping the best sniper rifle and largely ignoring skills. Certainly seems to be possible to do this up to silver, but that's obviously not the best measure. I'm not trying to argue this is true, just saying it's been my experience so far, so I hope there are some good contrary opinions. It's also possible to completely ignore guns and use nothing but skills and punching in gold, I barely use my guns, only time I do is then I run into an Observer or Boss really. Ok, I forgot about punching :-) But presumably you can't ignore guns and punching, and just rely on skills. In ME3 single player it was an option to play purely skill based. The option seems to be largely gone in single player MEA too, but I'm interested in opinions about the multiplayer, as I'm actually trying to play it. |
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Post by megabeast37215 on Apr 12, 2017 0:25:31 GMT
Weapons and your ability to hit headshots with them are infinitely more important than powers.. from a damage/killing perspective. Your best investment in early skill points are going to be in passives/fitness.
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Post by sigge on Apr 12, 2017 0:28:41 GMT
It's also possible to completely ignore guns and use nothing but skills and punching in gold, I barely use my guns, only time I do is then I run into an Observer or Boss really. Ok, I forgot about punching :-) But presumably you can't ignore guns and punching, and just rely on skills. In ME3 single player it was an option to play purely skill based. The option seems to be largely gone in single player MEA too, but I'm interested in opinions about the multiplayer, as I'm actually trying to play it. It's definitely not gone in SP. I barely use my gun, tbh. I'm actually incentivized not to, since I get +30% power damage with a full clip. Paired with the fusion mod that gives +50% power recharge speed, I got all the damage I could wish for with my powers. |
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Post by osito on Apr 12, 2017 0:29:57 GMT
Weapons and your ability to hit headshots with them are infinitely more important than powers.. from a damage/killing perspective. Your best investment in early skill points are going to be in passives/fitness. So do any classes have skills that are worth levelling up before the passives, in your opinion? Maybe tactical cloak is worth it? Or annihilation? |
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 12, 2017 0:31:35 GMT
It's also possible to completely ignore guns and use nothing but skills and punching in gold, I barely use my guns, only time I do is then I run into an Observer or Boss really. That is a significantly slower approach to kill enemies. Nope - you need a good weapon to do it faster. |
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Post by megabeast37215 on Apr 12, 2017 0:34:55 GMT
Weapons and your ability to hit headshots with them are infinitely more important than powers.. from a damage/killing perspective. Your best investment in early skill points are going to be in passives/fitness. So do any classes have skills that are worth levelling up before the passives, in your opinion? Maybe tactical cloak is worth it? Or annihilation? Yeah.. the ones you mentioned, Charge, Invasion, Singularity, maybe Turbocharge. That's all I can think of off the top of my head. |
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Post by osito on Apr 12, 2017 0:37:40 GMT
Ok, I forgot about punching :-) But presumably you can't ignore guns and punching, and just rely on skills. In ME3 single player it was an option to play purely skill based. The option seems to be largely gone in single player MEA too, but I'm interested in opinions about the multiplayer, as I'm actually trying to play it. It's definitely not gone in SP. I barely use my gun, tbh. I'm actually incentivized not to, since I get +30% power damage with a full clip. Paired with the fusion mod that gives +50% power recharge speed, I got all the damage I could wish for with my powers. (Ok, I dragged it slightly off topic ... ) I had those items in SP too, but I still end up using guns a bit, whereas in ME3 I didn't use guns at all except when the script demanded it (or the citadel dlc beginning). Maybe I'm still missing some equipment, but the cooldowns are still too slow compared with what I remember from ME3. In ME3 you could spam the powers non-stop. |
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 12, 2017 0:39:56 GMT
Weapons and your ability to hit headshots with them are infinitely more important than powers.. from a damage/killing perspective. Your best investment in early skill points are going to be in passives/fitness. So do any classes have skills that are worth levelling up before the passives, in your opinion? Maybe tactical cloak is worth it? Or annihilation? Barricade. Annihilation. Shield Boost, Invasion, Stealth grid, Tac Cloak... Most classe I would assume you would spread the love a little hitting 2-3 ranks of what you want then max out what you consider most important next... |
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Post by P51Mus7ang on Apr 12, 2017 1:09:35 GMT
did you play ME3 mp when it first came out? you would get kicked out of a gold lobby if you didn't have a infiltrator. this path is better. Along with level 3 consumables and gear on the weapons, at least level 18......remember those days, MEA changed that quite a bit |
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Post by nucleartech76 on Apr 12, 2017 1:24:00 GMT
If you're a new player, level your fitness tree first. If asari adept I would level AF before passives just BC you'll be able to Crowd control a lot better. Concussive shot is also pretty decent to level to charge for cc as well.
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Post by poultrymancer on Apr 12, 2017 1:25:22 GMT
did you play ME3 mp when it first came out? you would get kicked out of a gold lobby if you didn't have a infiltrator. this path is better. No it was Asari adepts running around with Carnifex. Forgot about all the Stasis snipers.. |
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Post by Ryoku on Apr 12, 2017 1:28:57 GMT
It's also possible to completely ignore guns and use nothing but skills and punching in gold, I barely use my guns, only time I do is then I run into an Observer or Boss really. That is a significantly slower approach to kill enemies. I disagree Weapons and your ability to hit headshots with them are infinitely more important than powers.. from a damage/killing perspective. Your best investment in early skill points are going to be in passives/fitness. So do any classes have skills that are worth levelling up before the passives, in your opinion? Maybe tactical cloak is worth it? Or annihilation? Most classes will have an ability that is a must max first which you should use the points from the 10 character cards to max Tactical Cloak and Annihilation are examples. |
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Post by adangada on Apr 12, 2017 2:11:33 GMT
I like to drop a couple of skill points into recharge speeds of certain abilities at low levels. The rest of my points go into passives.
Having a 10 or 15% recharge on most abilities is worth it. Faster recharge on anything that CCs is going to help your survivability and damage. Energy drain will help with survivability and combos. Turbocharge recharge is worthy of a few points. Charge is worth all 6 ranks. I'd think going to rank 4 on annihilation would definitely be worth it, possibly even rank 6. Having an extra power cell on some abilities is also worth the 2 points.
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Post by reyzaburrel on Apr 12, 2017 2:41:21 GMT
Yes class matters and whoever thinks opposite is a liar. Now prove me wrong, I dare you. If you do, you're a liar too. Hmph hmph hmph
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 12, 2017 2:45:41 GMT
I always play with class like a proper gentleman.
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Post by gethadept on Apr 12, 2017 5:26:03 GMT
Class matters a lot to me. I played human adept, human infliltrator, krogan vanguard and asari adept so far. None of them really needed gun except for certain enemy types.
I was largely motivated by biotic combo & juggernaut shield. They r decent simply with charger x. i often score too 2 & die maybe 3 times per game.
i rarely ever died in me3mp but meamp i can't keep myself from dying. i die a lot like 2-3 times per match.
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Post by xaijin on Apr 12, 2017 5:27:56 GMT
It's also possible to completely ignore guns and use nothing but skills and punching in gold, I barely use my guns, only time I do is then I run into an Observer or Boss really. That is a significantly slower approach to kill enemies. You have clearly not unlocked an asari or ghetto phantom |
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Post by zorinho20 on Apr 12, 2017 5:28:11 GMT
No, I played the trilogy to death, but I never tried the multiplayer till MEA, so it is a genuine, relatively uninformed, question. You poor thing |
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