Is BSN biased against black characters?

I loved Vivienne and Liam's pretty fun so far. Didn't even realize Liam was considered unpopular aside from the usual Human vs Alien teammate comparison. Him and Cora will never win me over as much as my aliens because I'm a space weirdo.

Jacob was alright in the ME2 intro, all the way up until I talked to him on the Normandy. Then he creeped me out a lil. His convos with my FemShep were weirdly flirty by default and I wasn't down with that (and then I saw his romance on youtube and his "priiiiize" line??? THAT WAS CREEPY AS HECK WHY WHY).

But yea. I think we all know why when it comes down to folk who write them off as ugly teammates.

Like I said before.


Shes good.

How can anyone not like Anderson? He was a straight up, solid character with depth and passion. <raises eyebrow>

Bet you chose Udina to be Ambassador.

 Please, do enlighten us.

Well for Liam and Jacob it's easy. I'm not racist. I'm sexist and speciesist. I'm a human guy, and so given the opportunity I would rather not take a human guy on my squad with me nor interact with other human males (in Mass Effect games). I'd rather take females and males of other species (Krogan, Drell, Turians, what have you).

I liked Viv in DAI and took her basically everywhere.

Anderson from MET is probably the best portrayal of a black person in the entire Mass Effect universe. He was educated, articulate, intelligent and He came across as moral and human and unbiased concerning his judgment of Shepherd and the things surrounding him. You also get a sense of a flawed history with him. He gave the impression that he really believed in a good and right way and he regretted his genuine mistakes.

His voice actor also did a very, very good job.

Chalk it up to poor writing if you want, but it feels in general like all the black people since thing are mere shadows of how Anderson was portrayed.

I get the feeling that Vivienne was meant to be hated? I'm on the fence about her to be honest, sometimes I like her and then other times I want to smack her. My biggest complaint about her is one I had about Miranda in that several of her conversations where skewed in her favor. i.e. you can't argue with her. In ME2 there is a conversation with Miranda about Cerberus and how so many of their past projects have been shady Miranda has all sorts of responses to Shepard's accusations, but most of her responses are half arsed and could easily be argued but Shepard isn't given the opportunity. It's frustrating and that's kinda how I feel about Vivienne.

Jacob is kinda there and he actually bugs me because I feel like he could have been a great character... if he'd had a different VA. Jacob comes off as a stereotypical boy from the 'hood and I feel like that comes not from his writer, but from his voice actor. I also absolutely hate the way FemShep acts around him (and that one is on Jennifer Hale). It's irritating.

I actually like Liam, he's a dork, and a screw up, but he's a lovable dork and screw up. His heart is in the right place, but I don't know where the hell his brain is. I feel like Liam is just impatient and has poor impulse control and gets him (and his friends) in trouble.

If people don't think race plays a part in some people's dislike of the characters then I think they are incredibly naive. Yes, of course race does play a role in how people perceive a character pretending otherwise would be intellectual dishonesty.

I'm just waiting for Cloud9 to show up

Jacob is fine, but I generally avoid squad mates whose primary weapon is shotgun who also isn't krogan. I benched tali and jack for the same reason

I didn't actually know people didn't like vivi. I think she is generally angry at my inquisitor during conversation.

Liam is insufferable, he and Peebee represent everything I hate about characters in andromeda.

Not really, but a ton of guys ARE super biased against lead male squadmates and ya'll know it. Hating on Carth, Kaidan, Jacob, Alistar etc. It never ends, the male "competition" always gets called boring and stuff