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Post by themikefest on Apr 12, 2017 21:24:57 GMT
I don't agree with a few of the moments in that video For me, one of the best scenes/moments is the conversation between Harbinger and Shepard in Arrival Yep I feel overall Arrival was a better DLC than people give it credit for and the Harbinger conversation was a good way to end ME 2 and fire up ME 3 (always saved Arrival for the very end of my ME 2 playthroughs before importing into ME 3). I still wish Harbinger had a bigger role in ME 3. Yep My Shepard enjoyed hearing him talk smack to her in ME2. She missed him in ME3.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 12, 2017 21:30:32 GMT
Like someone said it's not fair to compare one game to three. A lot of the MET moments where built up to in a previous game like curing the Krogan or the Geth and Quarians stuff. Killing Ash or Kadian wasn't a big deal because I barely knew them and they are not that interesting. I didn't really like Garrus and Tali that much in ME 1. They only grew on me in ME 2.
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 12, 2017 21:30:41 GMT
I really didn't have the attachment that people are having with Mass Effect 1. It had a lot of hooks and a few moments that I remember, but not a lot triggered emotions within me. Anything that did was because it was an unknown which is something no matter how BioWare will try can do for I haven't been able to find that in any game for years.
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Post by AnDromedary on Apr 12, 2017 21:31:48 GMT
I am just playing ME1 again now and I couldn't agree more. Sure, ME2/3 profit a lot from the setups (as they should) but ME1 has such great moments as well, even the xth time around (I don't even count anymore). Already looking forward to "Destiny Ascension you are all clear, I repeat you are all clear." It's cheesy as hell but with the music and the VO delivery, it just frigging works! I didn't have hardly any feels for ME2, I simply didn't get into the 'Michael Bay in Space' chapter of the trilogy. ME3 had a few especially the Citadel DLC was good. ME1 though, man that game was loaded with the feels. ME2 has the Overlord DLC, the end of which is probably one of the most emotionally manipulative scenes ever. But god, was I thankful for that paragon interrupt on Gavin Archer. I really needed that one.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Apr 12, 2017 21:34:01 GMT
Can't compare a trilogy to a new game. ME1 had a few moments, but nothing big, same as MEA. It's the later ME games that took off. ME 1 is my least favorite of trilogy (which is saying something because I still rate it at least a 90) but Virmire alone had three moments for me. The Wrex confrontation (where the outcome can set the context for the genophage arc in the rest of the series), the vs decision (which is permanent for the rest of the series), and the conversation with Sovereign (which is when I first realized the gravity of what was coming). To me Virmire alone set the tone for the rest of the trilogy.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 12, 2017 21:34:56 GMT
I didn't have hardly any feels for ME2, I simply didn't get into the 'Michael Bay in Space' chapter of the trilogy. ME3 had a few especially the Citadel DLC was good. ME1 though, man that game was loaded with the feels. ME2 has the Overlord DLC, the end of which is probably one of the most emotionally manipulative scenes ever. But god, was I thankful for that paragon interrupt on Gavin Archer. I really needed that one. True, Overlord is pretty emotional. I have a nephew that is autistic so I was especially enraged by it. Given the chance I would have hunted down TIM long before ME3 after that.
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Post by DalishRanger on Apr 12, 2017 21:59:54 GMT
ME2 has the Overlord DLC, the end of which is probably one of the most emotionally manipulative scenes ever. But god, was I thankful for that paragon interrupt on Gavin Archer. I really needed that one. True, Overlord is pretty emotional. I have a nephew that is autistic so I was especially enraged by it. Given the chance I would have hunted down TIM long before ME3 after that. I have friends and family on the spectrum to varying degrees, and I work for a company that specializes in educational methods and materials for autistic learners and related learning disabilities so Overlord was a punch in the gut. I still get teary at the end. I'm glad I got to punch Dr. Archer at least.
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Post by cypherj on Apr 12, 2017 22:19:27 GMT
- Walking through the Normandy to the bridge with the Mass Effect theme playing, and then going through the mass relay for the first time - Seeing the Citadel for the first time. Your crew running to the windows to see the Citadel because they were sharing the first time moment with you - Shepard talking to Sovereign, which was hands down one of the best dialogue exchanges in the series - Taking the Paragon option with the reporter instead of punching her and having Shepard list off all the ships and people that died protecting the Citadel, and actually changing the reporters perspective in things. Most people missed this because they punched her. - The fifth fleet coming in to rescue the council in ME1 - The hold the line speech - Just Virmire in its entirety, it had so much. Wrex decision, Hold the line speech, rescue the commandoes or not, Kaiden/Ashley decision, Conversation with Sovereign when it all got real really quick. Hands down my favorite mission in all four games.
They missed a lot, and had a lot I didn't think were that great. But I agree, I can't think of any of these moments in ME:A so far.
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Post by setokaiba on Apr 12, 2017 22:25:41 GMT
Like someone said it's not fair to compare one game to three. A lot of the MET moments where built up to in a previous game like curing the Krogan or the Geth and Quarians stuff. Killing Ash or Kadian wasn't a big deal because I barely knew them and they are not that interesting. I didn't really Garrus and Tali that much in ME 1. They only grew on me in ME 2. Everyone was just kinda there in ME1
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Post by sdzald on Apr 12, 2017 22:26:09 GMT
"That's for Thane you son of a bitch!" One very emotional moment in 3 games packed with them.
As others have said it is not really fair to compare one game to 3. I will just say that there was a blonde security guard right after you arrive on Noverai, I despised the bitch and my joy over killing her was only tempered with the fact that she dies too quickly and I didn't have time to look her in face and tell her to go to hell. In that simple bit part moment I felt more emotional then at ANY time in MEA.
Before I am flamed again for doing nothing but flaming of MEA I will give credit to the Exaltation Facility Quest. It is the one time in MEA I really felt like I was back in the ME Universe.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 12, 2017 22:26:28 GMT
I didn't really Garrus and Tali that much in ME 1. They only grew on me in ME 2. Everyone was just kinda there in ME1 I really liked Ashley in ME 1 though.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 12, 2017 22:26:54 GMT
- Walking through the Normandy to the bridge with the Mass Effect theme playing, and then going through the mass relay for the first time - Seeing the Citadel for the first time. Your crew running to the windows to see the Citadel because they were sharing the first time moment with you - Shepard talking to Sovereign, which was hands down one of the best dialogue exchanges in the series - Taking the Paragon option with the reporter instead of punching her and having Shepard list off all the ships and people that died protecting the Citadel, and actually changing the reporters perspective in things. Most people missed this because they punched her. - The fifth fleet coming in to rescue the council in ME1 - The hold the line speech - Just Virmire in its entirety, it had so much. Wrex decision, Hold the line speech, rescue the commandoes or not, Kaiden/Ashley decision, Conversation with Sovereign when it all got real really quick. Hands down my favorite mission in all four games. They missed a lot, and had a lot I didn't think were that great. But I agree, I can't think of any of these moments in ME:A so far. I thought the end of MEA was pretty good. It still didn't give me goosebumps the way ME1 did, but it was really cool seeing it. Kinda what I wish ME3's ending would have been, only on a much larger scale.
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Post by cypherj on Apr 12, 2017 22:29:52 GMT
- Walking through the Normandy to the bridge with the Mass Effect theme playing, and then going through the mass relay for the first time - Seeing the Citadel for the first time. Your crew running to the windows to see the Citadel because they were sharing the first time moment with you - Shepard talking to Sovereign, which was hands down one of the best dialogue exchanges in the series - Taking the Paragon option with the reporter instead of punching her and having Shepard list off all the ships and people that died protecting the Citadel, and actually changing the reporters perspective in things. Most people missed this because they punched her. - The fifth fleet coming in to rescue the council in ME1 - The hold the line speech - Just Virmire in its entirety, it had so much. Wrex decision, Hold the line speech, rescue the commandoes or not, Kaiden/Ashley decision, Conversation with Sovereign when it all got real really quick. Hands down my favorite mission in all four games. They missed a lot, and had a lot I didn't think were that great. But I agree, I can't think of any of these moments in ME:A so far. I thought the end of MEA was pretty good. It still didn't give me goosebumps the way ME1 did, but it was really cool seeing it. Kinda what I wish ME3's ending would have been, only on a much larger scale. I still have to do Meridan, hence the so far lol. I'm just finishing up loyalty missions. So thanks for not saying what actually happened.
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Post by vonuber on Apr 12, 2017 22:30:57 GMT
Have to say I'm not sure that a repeat of the trilogy is possible nowadays. I think that they are to an extant too much of a risk for a studio to make, despite wishing for it to happen. I think that you would need a new IP to get the same sense of wonder as the first approach to the citadel for example. Mass Effect is probably too familiar and the 3 games cast too long a shadow. As much as I enjoy ME:A I think it should have been the start of a new IP, and the MET left as it is. Certainly using a lot of the Milky Way species leaves their stories already told (unless you have smaller personal ones), and if you are introducing entirely new ones then you might as well just create a new universe without the baggage. Anyway one of my favourite 'feels moment' is oddly enough probably the ship on 2181 Desponia. There's something about the abandoned ships and the story of the crew that just chills me.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 12, 2017 22:31:06 GMT
I thought the end of MEA was pretty good. It still didn't give me goosebumps the way ME1 did, but it was really cool seeing it. Kinda what I wish ME3's ending would have been, only on a much larger scale. I still have to do Meridan, hence the so far lol. I'm just finishing up loyalty missions. So thanks for not saying what actually happened. Sure, I didn't want to give anything away.
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Post by setokaiba on Apr 12, 2017 22:39:36 GMT
Everyone was just kinda there in ME1 I really liked Ashley in ME 1 though. Liara was only one I kinda cared about at first. Maybe that's because I romance her and took her on every misson. I didn't like Ashley because she could be a bitch to Liara and even questioned Shepard being interested in her.
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Post by doch on Apr 12, 2017 22:43:02 GMT
Archon didn't even rate as annoying as Kai Leng. I guess Salarians vs Krogan was supposed to be like Ash/kaidan choice? Meh. We can only hope for evolution of characters as interesting as Jack's. They missed a bunch of them but this is a good baseline for some of what they really needed to have. Most noteworthy, where is our Saren in MEA1? Watching this, reminiscing even just a bit, REALLY makes Andromeda look like it was written by some grammar school kid. Sadly I think our best days are behind us, with respect to Mass Effect.
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Post by R1Outcast on Apr 12, 2017 22:47:42 GMT
Gotta love how nostalgic rose tinted glasses make things in the past seem flawless...
Also, comparing one game to three is kinda lopsided and unfair.
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Post by cypherj on Apr 12, 2017 22:50:06 GMT
Gotta love how nostalgic rose colored glasses make things in the past seem flawless... Also, comparing one game to three is kinda lopsided. Is there some kind of handbook that says; "If someone likes older games better than subsequent games, respond with rose colored glasses comment."
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Post by smilesja on Apr 12, 2017 22:50:06 GMT
Gotta love how nostalgic rose tinted glasses make things in the past seem flawless... Also, comparing one game to three is kinda lopsided. Yeah I still had some problems with the games despite the great moments.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 12, 2017 22:55:31 GMT
Gotta love how nostalgic rose colored glasses make things in the past seem flawless... Also, comparing one game to three is kinda lopsided. Is there some kind of handbook that says; "If someone likes older games better than subsequent games, respond with rose colored glasses comment." Yeah apparently that is the copy/paste response to anyone that doesn't think the most current iteration of whatever series is the absolute best.
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Post by doch on Apr 12, 2017 22:57:51 GMT
Gotta love how nostalgic rose colored glasses make things in the past seem flawless... Wrong. We thought it was superb writing back then too. This only sharpens with clarity the contrast. Andromeda is mediocre at best - riddled with clichés and a forgettable story, and characters. It's a shell, and hollow from start to finish. My opinion, anyway.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 12, 2017 23:02:19 GMT
Gotta love how nostalgic rose colored glasses make things in the past seem flawless... Wrong. We thought it was superb writing back then too. This only sharpens with clarity the contrast. Andromeda is mediocre at best - riddled with clichés and a forgettable story, and characters. It's a shell, and hollow from start to finish. My opinion, anyway. To be honest I never though that Mass Effect had stellar writing. And I felt that ME 1's story was forgettable. It was the characters and world that drew me in, the same thing is happening for ME: A.
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Post by R1Outcast on Apr 12, 2017 23:05:10 GMT
Gotta love how nostalgic rose colored glasses make things in the past seem flawless... Also, comparing one game to three is kinda lopsided. Is there some kind of handbook that says; "If someone likes older games better than subsequent games, respond with rose colored glasses comment." I understand you're trying to be sarcastic and facetious, but it's very true that things in the past are often remembered much differently than they actually were. We remember them like they were perfect and flawless when in fact, they were far from it. It doesn't just apply to games either. Memories of movies, relationships, experiences, etc are altered based on our current perception of them, not our initial experience. I love the ME trilogy, but it's unfair to compare ME:A to those three games because those three games and the characters within hold such a special place in many of our hearts. Characters like Garrus and Tali weren't initially "love at first sight" for many. It took time for them to grow. Garrus became Archangel and singlehandedly fought the gangs of Omega. Tali made big contributions to her people through her pilgrimage. We were all a part of their growth through three games and DLC. To compare ME:A to all that is setting up ME:A to lose. So yeah, many people do remember the trilogy through rose tinted glasses. This conclusion was not reached by reading any "handbook", but through objective observation and common sense.
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Post by cheeseandonion on Apr 12, 2017 23:06:44 GMT
ME1 had a few moments, but nothing big, same as MEA What a load of tripe. The Alliance Winged Hussaring the Geth and Sovereign is the greatest moment in the franchise.
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