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Post by wizeman305 on Apr 13, 2017 8:15:38 GMT
So I decided to give the Crusader a shot and it is not bad but it is useless at anything longer than mid range, the accuracy is way off if it was pinpoint accurate it would be top tier. It does decent damage it could use a slight buff but as little as 10-20% would be great, the reload on it is ok, but the accuracy will have you miss most your shots even if you have the reticle right over the enemy. Other than that the gun actually feels great.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 9:20:57 GMT
It needs accuracy AND innate piercing to be worthwhile in my opinion.
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Post by riviet on Apr 13, 2017 9:28:31 GMT
It needs more than a 10-20% buff, given its rarity. According to Quick and Dirty Gun DPS bsn.boards.net/thread/6444/quick-dirty-gun-dps it has the second lowest DPS among the shotguns. Yes, even the katana, a common weapon, has higher DPS.
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Post by wizeman305 on Apr 13, 2017 9:41:43 GMT
It needs more than a 10-20% buff, given its rarity. According to Quick and Dirty Gun DPS bsn.boards.net/thread/6444/quick-dirty-gun-dps it has the second lowest DPS among the shotguns. Yes, even the katana, a common weapon, has higher DPS. On paper sure but given its a single projectile it works loads better than other shotguns because you don't have to deal with pellet spread. It feels like what the Paladin used to be, but far less accurate.
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Post by niroz on Apr 13, 2017 9:50:25 GMT
It needs more than a 10-20% buff, given its rarity. According to Quick and Dirty Gun DPS bsn.boards.net/thread/6444/quick-dirty-gun-dps it has the second lowest DPS among the shotguns. Yes, even the katana, a common weapon, has higher DPS. On paper sure but given its a single projectile it works loads better than other shotguns because you don't have to deal with pellet spread. It feels like what the Paladin used to be, but far less accurate. Dunno man...Crusader's damage is pretty horrid on gold. That's with a Crusader V.
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Post by megabeast37215 on Apr 13, 2017 9:51:00 GMT
I unlocked it yesterday but haven't taken it out for a spin yet. Will try. I wonder if the pellet spread evolutions make it better..
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Post by wizeman305 on Apr 13, 2017 9:54:07 GMT
On paper sure but given its a single projectile it works loads better than other shotguns because you don't have to deal with pellet spread. It feels like what the Paladin used to be, but far less accurate. Dunno man...Crusader's damage is pretty horrid on gold. That's with a Crusader V. I used it fine, this was with a Crusader 3 but like I said its just too inconsistent, this was on a sentinel geared towards weapon use though.
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Post by Leland Gaunt on Apr 13, 2017 9:59:04 GMT
I unlocked it yesterday but haven't taken it out for a spin yet. Will try. I wonder if the pellet spread evolutions make it better.. It's a good weapon, but not a great as it was. As OP stated, the accuracy is off on anything further then mid-range. Actually, it seems to me that it is way more accurate when hip-fired than when actually aimed, but that might just be my feeling. Or BW pulled a BW and reversed the hip-fire and aim-accuracy. I wouldn't be surprised (looking at you, ME3 Harrier).
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Post by rlro on Apr 13, 2017 12:12:57 GMT
It is by far the worst UR that I have. I still miss the Ushior, so this might change in the near future, but Crusader will still be a crap weapon.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Apr 13, 2017 12:25:46 GMT
Well, if the Crusader didn't have accuracy issues, it would confuse those of us who used to use it in ME 3!
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Post by Mortiel on Apr 13, 2017 13:14:51 GMT
The Crusader just doesn't do it for me... The low damage and poor accuracy make it feel like a completely different weapon.
I mean, am I the only one that gets bugged by changing key traits (good or bad) of a weapon? I understand it's a different galaxy and all, but these Milky Way guns are still largely the same as they were, so the alterations seem weird. The Disciple has little to no stagger, the Hornet has low damage but no recoil, Raptor is full auto, and the Crusader has bad accuracy. I mean, why not do a Phalanx -> Eagle change? Change the name of the weapon, tweak the model a bit, and then alter whatever properties you want.
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 13, 2017 13:24:20 GMT
Well, if the Crusader didn't have accuracy issues, it would confuse those of us who used to use it in ME 3! Which ones? The ones of us of two seconds ago or those right now?
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Apr 13, 2017 13:25:12 GMT
Well, if the Crusader didn't have accuracy issues, it would confuse those of us who used to use it in ME 3! Which ones? The ones of us of two seconds ago or those right now? I tried to read your post, but it turned out to be where my eyes were looking .2 seconds ago and I missed.
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 13, 2017 13:30:46 GMT
Which ones? The ones of us of two seconds ago or those right now? I tried to read your post, but it turned out to be where my eyes were looking .2 seconds ago and I missed. That and lag and me lastmanstanding was one of the most embarrassing moments in ME3MP. When everyone else could spectate me missing Brutes with the Crusader.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Apr 13, 2017 13:35:06 GMT
In spite of everything, Crusader was my favourite shotgun until I learned the joys of GPS/Graal.
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Post by nucleartech76 on Apr 13, 2017 13:47:07 GMT
It needs more than a 10-20% buff, given its rarity. According to Quick and Dirty Gun DPS bsn.boards.net/thread/6444/quick-dirty-gun-dps it has the second lowest DPS among the shotguns. Yes, even the katana, a common weapon, has higher DPS. On paper sure but given its a single projectile it works loads better than other shotguns because you don't have to deal with pellet spread. It feels like what the Paladin used to be, but far less accurate. Single slug that can land randomly anywhere within the reticle. That's fucking horrible and whoever did it should be briskly kicked in the nuts.
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Post by bacon4breakfast on Apr 13, 2017 14:43:41 GMT
I wish it had a firing delay based on framerate.
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Post by bjorndadwarf on Apr 13, 2017 15:48:23 GMT
I had a rant about it last week along the same lines. I tried tweeting at Mike Gamble, heard nothing, and then this week tried tweeting at a couple of other devs, still haven't got a reply. Can't hurt to have a few others weigh in with them with the same concerns though.
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