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Post by odetotrees on Apr 16, 2017 9:33:44 GMT
I'm trying to decide what kind of (race and class) inquisitor I should made for Dorian romance.
I have already played dual wielding female Trevelyan with Cullen romance and I'm currently playing as a dual wielding (I'm sorry, I just love dual wielding) female Lavellan with Solas romance (ugh, the feels). I really want to try something else with Dorian but I cannot decide if I'd make a human or an elf (I would really love the height difference between Dorian and elf, that'd be so cute so I might go with Lavellan again). Another thing I just can't decide is the class. I would love to play a mage but I don't know if I should 'cause I would already have Dorian in my party and I don't know if I want to make either my character or Dorian a support mage, I was thinking to keep Dorian as a necromancer and my character as a knight enchanter. And i don't even know that much about support, defence etc. stuff, usually my party is just what feels good for my inquisitor (in my party there is one or two ranged and one of them is always mage, one tank and one melee rogue). It would be nice to try something else as well, like a warrior templar but I've no idea how Dorian would react to that...
What do you guys think? Im really bad at deciding stuff and im always overthinking everything so I would really appreciate your opinions. All i want is a cute romance with Dorian and I maybe want a mage but I have a zero experience with a two mages party. I obviously want Dorian to be in my party but if I'm a mage as well I don't know how that would go. Any advice on that? Or should I just make a warrior for Dorian romance and a mage for another Cullen romance?
(Sorry, if I don't make any sense, english is not my first language)
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Post by Catilina on Apr 16, 2017 11:22:11 GMT
Overthinking No matter, what class or race, but I prefer him NOT with Trevelyan, because of the end, but this is just me, the people like it, and the chemistry working well. Two Mages in the group are very effective. Lavellan is not much shorter than him, if you want size difference, then try with an Adaar.
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 16, 2017 21:12:44 GMT
If you want someone shorter than Dorian then go with a dwarf. Each race gets some race specific dialogue with him. With a human the dialogue depends on whether you are a mage or not.
As for the class, I don't think there is any problem with a warrior Templar and I believe they actually get some class specific dialogue with that specification. I had a lot of fun playing with my archer assassin and that specialisation also gets some special dialogue from Dorian.
As for mages, I found the Knight Enchanter a blast because you can virtually take on dragons single handed but there are no specialisation specific dialogues with Dorian for it, or for rift mage either. In fact I'm pretty sure Dorian doesn't comment if you take Necromancer, though I have never done so myself.
Don't worry about having more than one mage in the party. I normally like to run with two and at times I have even had a three mage party without any real problems. If you have not experienced Dorian in a party with either Vivienne or Solas, then I suggest you make your PC a non-mage and then always take one of them in the party with you and Dorian. Otherwise you are missing out on a lot of interesting dialogue, particularly between Dorian and Solas.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 13:02:13 GMT
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Post by Catilina on Apr 17, 2017 13:13:12 GMT
I think, you can't see difference in romance with a Templar, even if he's very bigot... sadly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 14:07:57 GMT
I think, you can't see difference in romance with a Templar, even if he's very bigot... sadly. It would've been perfect if you could though
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Post by Catilina on Apr 17, 2017 14:12:18 GMT
I think, you can't see difference in romance with a Templar, even if he's very bigot... sadly. It would've been perfect if you could though I think, it would a purely sexual attraction, not a real love (if the Templar can't change his mind, and stay bigot).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 14:16:20 GMT
It would've been perfect if you could though I think, it would a purely sexual attraction, not a real love (if the Templar can't change his mind, and stay bigot). I really like the romance of the opposites concept like this or Cass and mage inquisitor romance
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Post by Catilina on Apr 17, 2017 14:28:47 GMT
I think, it would a purely sexual attraction, not a real love (if the Templar can't change his mind, and stay bigot). I really like the romance of the opposites concept like this or Cass and mage inquisitor romance I liked too, but I don't see Cassandra so bigot, and mage Inquisitor can be Andrastian. As dalish elf, I don't see so much future to this romance. I spoke about a stubborn, bigoted Inquisitor. I don't think, that the love conquers everything .
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 17, 2017 14:39:53 GMT
Dorian will still romance Bull if he is a fully paid up member of the Qun who sacrificed his entire team for their sake. Then he is surprised when it all ends in tears. I love Dorian but the way his relationships are written he is prepared to overlook a lot when it comes to which faction they belong to, which is odd when you consider how devoted he claims to be to Tevinter. He will break up over specific actions but not over your loyalties to certain organisations. I played one of my Inquisitors as a loyalist mage who allied with the Templars, was an absolute favourite with Vivienne and sacrificed the Chargers for the Qun, yet I could still have romanced Dorian with him had I wanted to. (I couldn't stand my PC eventually and never finished the playthrough)
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Post by Catilina on Apr 17, 2017 14:53:17 GMT
Dorian will still romance Bull if he is a fully paid up member of the Qun who sacrificed his entire team for their sake. Then he is surprised when it all ends in tears. I love Dorian but the way his relationships are written he is prepared to overlook a lot when it comes to which faction they belong to, which is odd when you consider how devoted he claims to be to Tevinter. He will break up over specific actions but not over your loyalties to certain organisations. I played one of my Inquisitors as a loyalist mage who allied with the Templars, was an absolute favourite with Vivienne and sacrificed the Chargers for the Qun, yet I could still have romanced Dorian with him had I wanted to. (I couldn't stand my PC eventually and never finished the playthrough) Loyalist mages just a bunch of miserable people, who hates themselves with a well advanced Stockholm syndrome. This is the most pathetic fraction, headed by this hypocrite, power-hungry Vivienne. I don't surprise, that you found uncomfortable. Dorian and a Templar-hearted bigot Inquisitor's romance isn't about fractions, rather about the freedom. A Templar-hearted bigot man never will accept that there is a mage, who lives freely. And a free mage never will accept, that he should be closed... nonsense. This can't be a true, long-term love relationship. Just as qun-loyal Iron Bull and Dorian. Can you imagine the dialogue? Bigot Templar prick: You know, my love, after we close finally all these rogue apostates, I will protect you from yourself. Dorian: I'm able to protect myself, amatus. Bigot Templar prick: Perhaps, you think that, but believe me, you are dangerous, and always will be, as every mages. At any moment you could destroy yourself and the world. I just worry about you! You must to learn to fear from yourself! Dorian: ... you must improve your room, you have poor taste, let me help you to pick your furnitures! But when the Templar would try to assert his divine right (a'la Cullen, DA2) to dominate over Dorian, would be interesting sexual content...
Okay, now seriously: I don't think, that this relationship would be too healthy.
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Post by phoray on Apr 17, 2017 22:49:35 GMT
I'm going to romance him with a Templar Trev.
I don't see him with a Dalish elf because of some of his lines. But if you're willing to head canon some conversations, I suppose it could work out.
The same line that bothers me for Dalish also kinda bothers me for all the races but human. But I could swing a dwarf well enough.
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Post by dragontartare on Apr 18, 2017 0:41:24 GMT
I did a Templar Lavellan with him, and you do indeed get a bit of special dialogue when you take the specialization. I have no problem headcanoning that Dorian's conversations with any Lavellan Inquisitor gradually cause him to change his mind about slavery. (He doesn't actually look down on elves, after all, he was just raised with some very screwed up views on slavery.)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 14:18:30 GMT
I played with Qunari Mage. Male voice imo compliments the large, placid Qunari, and he balances and grounds mercurial Dorian. If I was into playing Warriors, I would play a Sword and Shield, because I am big on paladins protecting their true love. But Mage worked well as being colleagues, and I have always made sure they fought in concert. I chose Knight Enchanter, and fought my way to either overwhelmed or dying Dorian with my lightsaber enough times to satisfy my paladnesque cravings.
My party was Sera, Dorian and Cassandra, sometimes I replaced Sera with Solas.
In addition, Qunari's background as a merc, and the first in his family to be given a name, contrast so deliciously with the last scion of House Pavus. The lowest of the low... and the altus.
I really liked that pairing, and their love story. It felt epic, a touch star-crossed with a bit of melancholy, but some moments of pure joy as well.
(Blushes) TMI?
P.S. Finally, Qunari men are simply gorgeous....
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Post by opuspace on Apr 18, 2017 15:34:42 GMT
Dorian will still romance Bull if he is a fully paid up member of the Qun who sacrificed his entire team for their sake. Then he is surprised when it all ends in tears. I love Dorian but the way his relationships are written he is prepared to overlook a lot when it comes to which faction they belong to, which is odd when you consider how devoted he claims to be to Tevinter. He will break up over specific actions but not over your loyalties to certain organisations. I played one of my Inquisitors as a loyalist mage who allied with the Templars, was an absolute favourite with Vivienne and sacrificed the Chargers for the Qun, yet I could still have romanced Dorian with him had I wanted to. (I couldn't stand my PC eventually and never finished the playthrough) Loyalist mages just a bunch of miserable people, who hates themselves with a well advanced Stockholm syndrome. This is the most pathetic fraction, headed by this hypocrite, power-hungry Vivienne. I don't surprise, that you found uncomfortable. Dorian and a Templar-hearted bigot Inquisitor's romance isn't about fractions, rather about the freedom. A Templar-hearted bigot man never will accept that there is a mage, who lives freely. And a free mage never will accept, that he should be closed... nonsense. This can't be a true, long-term love relationship. Just as qun-loyal Iron Bull and Dorian. Can you imagine the dialogue? Bigot Templar prick: You know, my love, after we close finally all these rogue apostates, I will protect you from yourself. Dorian: I'm able to protect myself, amatus. Bigot Templar prick: Perhaps, you think that, but believe me, you are dangerous, and always will be, as every mages. At any moment you could destroy yourself and the world. I just worry about you! You must to learn to fear from yourself! Dorian: ... you must improve your room, you have poor taste, let me help you to pick your furnitures! But when the Templar would try to assert his divine right (a'la Cullen, DA2) to dominate over Dorian, would be interesting sexual content...
Okay, now seriously: I don't think, that this relationship would be too healthy. I laughed at how you wrote Dorian's reply! More banter please!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 9:03:28 GMT
I made a Warrior Trevelyan to romance him.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Apr 22, 2017 12:00:06 GMT
I made a Warrior Trevelyan to romance him. Same. I like the idea that they are peers in nobility. Dorian doesn't hold mage superiority views (magic>all), so the fact that my Trevelyan doesn't have magic is of no consequence. Since the Trev mage has been living in the Circle under Chantry supervision, it's not really the same dynamic. My warrior is champion spec. There are roleplay reasons for why he is not a templar, which I'm not going to get into, but I do have them. In addition, seeing Cullen's struggle was enough to put the final nail into that coffin. They're both Andrastian and have similar views on the Chantry, even if my Inquisitor's come from a different place. My character has some elements of the KISA archetype, and I imagine that is partly why Dorian falls for him, not having much experience with such men (or people in general really) that fit that mold in Tevinter... because, Tevinter. As for the aesthetics of it all, I play humans. With m/m romances, I also prefer them to be similar in size and build; that is appealing to me. Finally, since I do play humans, I just didn't like how bulky the male human looked in mage armor. I was that way with male mage Hawke as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 21:11:05 GMT
I made a Warrior Trevelyan to romance him. Same. I like the idea that they are peers in nobility. Dorian doesn't hold mage superiority views (magic>all), so the fact that my Trevelyan doesn't have magic is of no consequence. Since the Trev mage has been living in the Circle under Chantry supervision, it's not really the same dynamic. My warrior is champion spec. There are roleplay reasons for why he is not a templar, which I'm not going to get into, but I do have them. In addition, seeing Cullen's struggle was enough to put the final nail into that coffin. They're both Andrastian and have similar views on the Chantry, even if my Inquisitor's come from a different place. My character has some elements of the KISA archetype, and I imagine that is partly why Dorian falls for him, not having much experience with such men (or people in general really) that fit that mold in Tevinter... because, Tevinter. As for the aesthetics of it all, I play humans. With m/m romances, I also prefer them to be similar in size and build; that is appealing to me. Finally, since I do play humans, I just didn't like how bulky the male human looked in mage armor. I was that way with male mage Hawke as well. Mine was a Templar though; even allied with them. My dude was very much a KISA as well.
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Post by eriador117 on May 12, 2017 20:45:48 GMT
I've romanced Dorian with every class. I normally play male Trevelyan. All of them had their moments, but since I usually play a mage, that's what I've done the most. I do enjoy the line he tells you if you're a human noble and not a mage though
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Post by arvaarad on May 13, 2017 2:26:25 GMT
Everyone else has given good rationales from an RP perspective, and ultimately I think that's the most important angle.
...but, if you still end up undecided, here's a combat perspective: either rogue tempest or rogue assassin inquisitors complement necromancy well. Dorian's at his most effective when he can predict when people will die. Both a tempest's Flask of Lightning or an assassin's Mark of Death can help guarantee that specific kills happen when Dorian needs them.
Also creates less companion forcing when you need to pick locks... though I expect most people romancing Dorian tend to take Cole too.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 13, 2017 2:42:20 GMT
Everyone else has given good rationales from an RP perspective, and ultimately I think that's the most important angle. ...but, if you still end up undecided, here's a combat perspective: either rogue tempest or rogue assassin inquisitors complement necromancy well. Dorian's at his most effective when he can predict when people will die. Both a tempest's Flask of Lightning or an assassin's Mark of Death can help guarantee that specific kills happen when Dorian needs them. Also creates less companion forcing when you need to pick locks... though I expect most people romancing Dorian tend to take Cole too. That is definitely the case for me. Dorian and Cole are my constant characters. Cassandra is also there most of the time, but I will occasionally switch her for Varric. That is my main team. I play a SnS warrior tank, but party comp doesn't concern me much. I have Cassandra specced into SnS damags skills, but she doesn't tank; the buffs from templar spec work well so it's not a problem.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2017 3:26:05 GMT
Why Cole with Dorian? I tried Cole and ended up with Sera as my rogue instead. Cole's too much trouble. Is there some good dialogue? He was mostly silent for me.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 13, 2017 3:41:37 GMT
Why Cole with Dorian? I tried Cole and ended up with Sera as my rogue instead. Cole's too much trouble. Is there some good dialogue? He was mostly silent for me. This just applies to Cole+everyone, really. Because of the way Cole IS, he has revealing dialogue that can show a character's pain and lingering issues. In Dorian's case, it doesn't have to do with the romance, but rather his father. This is a banter series that plays in succession as you're exploring. It shows how Dorian is still very much hurt over the whole thing, and also conflicted because he cares for his father, so he's wrestling with that anger and pain, and trying to reconcile all of those things. One of the banters even has him get so upset that the Inquisitor is allowed to intervene and tell Cole to stop (dialogue wheel choice -- alternately say that Cole is only trying to help, or tell Dorian to do it himself). I don't know that it helps, really. After some thinking, Dorian is able to explain to Cole why it hurts so much, but it's not like anything is resolved. Dorian was betrayed on a deep level, and nothing can build that trust again. It's a great deal of characterization that you can miss through not hearing banters. As I said, Cole has this with everyone. The Cole romance banter is nice as well, but I've never gotten it in my game.
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Post by Catilina on May 13, 2017 7:57:55 GMT
Why Cole with Dorian? I tried Cole and ended up with Sera as my rogue instead. Cole's too much trouble. Is there some good dialogue? He was mostly silent for me. Cole much more interesting than Sera (as Nightscrawl also wrote), not mentioned, that Sera's annoying (to me ofc). And I already know Varric, but his dialogues can be interesting too.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 13, 2017 8:35:23 GMT
Why Cole with Dorian? I tried Cole and ended up with Sera as my rogue instead. Cole's too much trouble. Is there some good dialogue? He was mostly silent for me. Cole much more interesting than Sera (as Nightscrawl also wrote), not mentioned, that Sera's annoying (to me ofc). And I already know Varric, but his dialogues can be interesting too. I think @carefull was referring to combat. I do agree that it's sometimes annoying to keep tabs on Cole in certain situations, like dragon fights. I just power through it, though. Heh... on some dragons, I have 3 melee -- my Inquisitor tanking, Cassandra, and Cole -- with Dorian as the lone ranged. It can be frustrating.
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