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Post by derrame on Apr 20, 2017 22:46:39 GMT
as soon as i completed ME1 or 2 i started again right away, i wanted to explore more, put more attention to dialogs, t exploraton, to explore and be more in that universe, after i cmpleted andrmeda, i had enough, it's like i already seen everything, nothing will change if i do all again, and the exploraition and fetch qusts are soo boring, i dnt want to to all that again
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 20, 2017 22:52:17 GMT
To start, let's get the elephant in the room outtathaway: ME1-3 is a trilogy of games, Andromeda is more or less standalone. Even so, imagining Andromeda as the start of a new trilogy (as they originally claimed it would be), does it add to its replayability for you? For me it doesn't. I have replayed the original trilogy at least 5 times from start to finish, and I can see myself starting a 6th. I'm 55% into completion and I don't particularly feel the urge to finish Andromeda. But I'm gonna finish it because I paid close to 100 bucks for it. Though I'm not curious about how it ends and I'm DEFINITELY not seeing myself replaying it a second or third time. Too many reasons why to mention. This is what makes a game replayable. Did I have fun and enjoy it. I don't care if it has 100 endings or one if I had fun the answer is yes. Exactly my feeling too even games like Battlefield I play a few times even though I know the story and all that I don't play MP only SP but even though the Battlefield/COD campaigns can be short I still play them now and then because I enjoy shootingg things and blowing things up and playing the hero in them. I find that fun and if I find it fun I'm more likely to do it more than once. I haven't played any of them recently but I do have a few of them. But I mostly only boot them up if I want to play something short and simple. Andromeda I had plenty o ffun with in that first playthrough so I know I'm going back to it. TBH I ma yhave started m ysecond one straightaway had I not ran into so much stuttering and crashes but that was pre patch 1.05. Based on one of my saves it looks like 1.05 has fixed a lot of the issues I faced so I'm pretty sure I'm gong back after I finish my latest ME3 run to do my second and possibly 3rd playthrough's if things do end up running nicely this time.
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Post by capn233 on Apr 20, 2017 22:52:41 GMT
Just hard to say. Depending on what is in store via patches, the replay value could improve.
I think I will finish the main plot in my current NG+ run, then consider maybe trying to take a run to 100%.
Unlike in previous installments I don't really feel any urge to use a lot of different builds or play "every class," but as above could change if the game gets rebalanced.
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Post by Gilsa on Apr 20, 2017 23:09:57 GMT
Well, generally speaking, I don't like prequels. I feel that no matter what happens, it doesn't change the ultimate outcome. There was a real lack of satisfying closure to the way ME3 ended. It's not damning in and of itself, but it cast a real long shadow over the trilogy as a whole. No matter what I do in ME1, no matter how many alliances or people I help out, no matter how many war assets I get, nothing is going to change the inevitable march to a certain death. (Please don't start with the "Shepard does live" stuff.) There's certainly value in realistic endings, sure, but I'm only going to watch Titanic, 300, Gladiator maybe once. As much as I enjoy Game of Thrones, there's no way I'm going to rewatch it. They're all real downers. And the ending to ME3 is a big enough of a downer that I feel content with the time I've already put in the trilogy. Plenty of other games to play. MEA has a higher replayability because we tend to want that big ass trophy and a babe on our arm when we stand on that pedestal in front of an adoring crowd. It's satisfying and provides closure.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 23:13:43 GMT
I've replayed the trilogy (as a trilogy and each game alone) more than I can count. Andromeda I played through twice. Was on my third when I got bored and moved to MET again.
The combat for me is more fun than MET. I like profiles, I like being able to mix and match skills and that is the one thing that I really note hugely.
I know I will go back to MEA again, but I feel like I need a cooldown time because of all back and forth on quests where I am now a shuttle driver and because honestly it just doesn't really suck me in. ME1 and ME2 I felt like the pulled me into the story. ME1 even with is sloppy combat is still fun to me because the story is fun and the side quests as sub par as some might see them are were nearly all related to what was happening in the galaxy at that moment or were used in the future as I run through them. You have the emergence of cerberus, you see exogeni has been up to some things. You find husks. You run across rachni. Even the Rogue VI on Luna is kind of related because AI in the galaxy at that time is pretty out of control and you have this VI that has gone crazy. When you get that mission, you have no idea what it could be and if it could be related to the geth somehow. Later it evolves into something more interesting but my point is that all the quests both side and main in ME1 were pretty awesome. Despite the clunky as a tin can combat, you really have some interesting things happening. Feros is under siege by geth and some krogan. It's got a mind controlling plant alien that is right in line with the whole indoctraintion aspect. Noveria is fun because you have to clean up the mess made by Benezia and Saren under indoctrination and you get insight into the Rachni and that the war with them was likely because they were indoctrinated (sour yellow tones from dark space). That's pretty damn relevant. Vimire is fantastic. The battle of the citadel is very well done. The music throughout the game is amazing and it is the kind of music that sticks with you.
Much of the same of that goes for ME2 though we take a detour that many don't really like for that game. Later you see that there was a relevance because the collectors were made by reapers and that is what becomes of these races after they have been taken. They still serve the reapers in some awful form 50,000 years later much like the keepers who have been around forever. Only with the protheans, you know who they were. They were the reason you are part of the galactic community. Gameplay is improved greatly. The quests are generally good and all of them are relevant by design. ME3 becomes a war game but still has all the great kind of moments we came to expect. Downside of that one is cerberus because a headache, but gameplay is kicked up a few notches to be the best of the series.
Compare any of that to Andromeda and it feels like andromeda has lost its way trying to be too much like ME1 but missing the important part that ME1 was very fun even with crappy combat because the story and the quests were interesting and fun. You didn't even have any really cool discoveries in MEA that were little side things like talking to one of the salarians that were captured and getting their take on indoctrination in virmire or feeling like going through every aspect of the dialogue tree was going to yield you more intel so you could begin to put the puzzle together. In MEA they hint and skirt around it but the dialogue is just so poor. You are there to unravel what is going on while also making a home for the races and allying with the Angara but you don't learn stuff because nobody knows jack and at the end you never really learn much more than when you started. It's completely lackluster from start to finish in story, design and even the music which is almost never playing.
I know now I will be waiting to see what happens with the next one. I will not buy it having learned my lesson twice now with MEA and DAI. DA series is dead to me at this point. MEA series is one I will actually now be forced to watch all footage I can related to the story because going in, I really could not imagine they could come up with such a lackluster story for any ME series and make the game so unimpressive. Now, I have seen it happen so I have to actually spoil myself because I don't think I can even count on reviews.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Apr 20, 2017 23:15:44 GMT
I've replayed the trilogy (as a trilogy and each game alone) more than I can count. Andromeda I played through twice. Was on my third when I got bored and moved to MET again. The combat for me is more fun than MET. I like profiles, I like being able to mix and match skills and that is the one thing that I really note hugely. I know I will go back to MEA again, but I feel like I need a cooldown time because of all back and forth on quests where I am now a shuttle driver and because honestly it just doesn't really suck me in. ME1 and ME2 I felt like the pulled me into the story. ME1 even with is sloppy combat is still fun to me because the story is fun and the side quests as sub par as some might see them are were nearly all related to what was happening in the galaxy at that moment or were used in the future as I run through them. You have the emergence of cerberus, you see exogeni has been up to some things. You find husks. You run across rachni. Even the Rogue VI on Luna is kind of related because AI in the galaxy at that time is pretty out of control and you have this VI that has gone crazy. When you get that mission, you have no idea what it could be and if it could be related to the geth somehow. Later it evolves into something more interesting but my point is that all the quests both side and main in ME1 were pretty awesome. Despite the clunky as a tin can combat, you really have some interesting things happening. Feros is under siege by geth and some krogan. It's got a mind controlling plant alien that is right in line with the whole indoctraintion aspect. Noveria is fun because you have to clean up the mess made by Benezia and Saren under indoctrination and you get insight into the Rachni and that the war with them was likely because they were indoctrinated (sour yellow tones from dark space). That's pretty damn relevant. Vimire is fantastic. The battle of the citadel is very well done. The music throughout the game is amazing and it is the kind of music that sticks with you. Much of the same of that goes for ME2 though we take a detour that many don't really like for that game. Later you see that there was a relevance because the collectors were reapers and that is what becomes of these races after they have been taken. They still serve the reapers in some awful form 50,000 years later much like the keepers who have been around forever. Only with the protheans, you know who they were. They were the reason you are part of the galactic community. Gameplay is improved greatly. The quests are generally good and all of them are relevant by design. ME3 becomes a war game but still has all the great kind of moments we came to expect. Downside of that one is cerberus because a headache, but gameplay is kicked up a few notches to be the best of the series. Compare any of that to Andromeda and it feels like andromeda has lost its way trying to be too much like ME1 but missing the important part that ME1 was very fun even with crappy combat because the story and the quests were interesting and fun. You didn't even have any really cool discoveries in MEA that were little side things like talking to one of the salarians that were captured and getting their take on indoctrination in virmire or feeling like going through every aspect of the dialogue tree was going to yield you more intel so you could begin to put the puzzle together. In MEA they hint and skirt around it but the dialogue is just so poor. You are there to unravel what is going on while also making a home for the races and allying with the Angara but you don't learn stuff because nobody knows jack and at the end you never really learn much more than when you started. It's completely lackluster from start to finish in story, design and even the music which is almost never playing. I know now I will be waiting to see what happens with the next one. I will not buy it having learned my lesson twice now with MEA and DAI. DA series is dead to me at this point. MEA series is one I will actually now be forced to watch all footage I can related to the story because going in, I really could not imagine they could come up with such a lackluster story for any ME series and make the game so unimpressive. Now, I have seen it happen so I have to actually spoil myself because I don't think I can even count on reviews. Probably the best review on BSN. Couldn't agree more.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 20, 2017 23:18:51 GMT
16 Play throughs in 8 years
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The first installment will always be the weakest until the second and third come out. You can't create an entire story from the pieces of one game.
Just....Ryder and...Pathfinding...
When we have a few games we'll know. I suspect Andromeda will be a game I skip over in my future PTs.
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Post by souljahbill14 on Apr 20, 2017 23:19:40 GMT
I'm currently on my 3rd MEA playthrough (1st was Scott, 2nd was Sara, 3rd is Scott on Insanity). I dig the game. I'm ready for DLC.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Apr 20, 2017 23:29:52 GMT
I've played each game in the trilogy several times each and I will definitely be revisiting them again for a long time. The characters, story and universe are superior in every way compared to MEA. I'm about 60% through MEA and I haven't touched the campaign in over a week. I might come back later but not with the aim of a 100% playthrough (too many ridiculously tedious sidequests), especially since I also spent a fair bit of money on it (I never learn: don't preorder, wait for user reviews). The characters just don't have the same charm, and the story is very contrived and uninspired in my opinion. I'm trying to like it but I'm really not into it as much as I'd hoped I'd be. I'm very doubtful if I will ever play it again. >I never learn: don't preorder I'm always of that mindset but seeing as how I gave Bioware a second chance and their product ended up mediocre once again, I'm inclined to never preorder or even purchase a Bioware again. The days of Bioware quality are long gone. Bioware will never be great again. It's the redpill the drones here have yet to swallow.
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Post by kleindropper on Apr 20, 2017 23:31:05 GMT
After finishing the MEA story I ran back to replay ME2 and am enjoying it immensely despite SEVERAL previous playthroughs. What does that tell you?
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Post by cobalt72 on Apr 20, 2017 23:33:06 GMT
Oh Dutch, you say that but you can't quite us drones or Bioware
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Apr 20, 2017 23:37:00 GMT
Oh Dutch, you say that but you can't quite us drones or Bioware Nope. Even on the original forums I never said I would never preorder a Bioware game because I genuinely believed Montreal would give ME justice. They didn't. It's quite easy for me to stop preordering games from beloved franchise. For instance, total War is definetly in my top5 video game franchises, I completely stopped preordering/buying total war games because of their quality issue and won't ever buy warhammer total war. I'm only ever on these forums when I'm playing a biogame and stop when I get bored with it.
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Post by cobalt72 on Apr 20, 2017 23:49:45 GMT
So I guess you're not bored yet?
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Post by mmoblitz on Apr 20, 2017 23:52:51 GMT
Did countless replays on the Trilogy. MEA won't ever have a replay. It's a one and done game for me.
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Post by The Sith Emperor on Apr 21, 2017 0:09:10 GMT
May get around to playing with Scott, but the game lacks any real replayability. Ryder is a static character with dialogue options that are all variations of pretty much the same response 90% of the time. Not worth listening to a second time.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Apr 21, 2017 0:46:12 GMT
Trilogy easily.
You watch your favorite movies multiple times. That's what the trilogy is.
It's a struggle to merely finish MEA the first time you play.
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Post by dm04 on Apr 21, 2017 1:53:49 GMT
Replayability of MEA is... low. Watched a few ME1-3 vids on youtube which reminded me of something. In most dialogue scenes (major... main story related, and minor... sidemissions), your squad was present, and when they did not say anything (though mostly they did), they were at least visible, gesturing, posing, one could even read their faction expression to some degree. With each playthrough, we could take another squadmates and get another outcome, everyone said something else, was posing some other way. Every play was different.
Now look at MEA... in every major conversation Ryder is alone (+SAM), minor conversation were changed... zoom in to Ryder, but the NPC you talk to keeps doing his/her stuff... mostly wandering off screen, with Ryder staring at a wall. And if your squad have something to say, it is like when talking across 3 rooms and you never see them. The replayability to see the very same thing everytime is low, even when we decide something. (Gues that is even the reason why the squadies feel so bad, since they are actualy quite ok, but never around, except for the Tempest or Hubs)
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Post by setokaiba on Apr 21, 2017 2:12:25 GMT
It depends on the patches and story dlc. I've beaten the game twice already and done everything I wanted to. If I enjoy it's story dlc and the patches fix some problems I will definitely beat it two more times at least.
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Post by brad2240 on Apr 21, 2017 17:01:47 GMT
I'm on my third playthrough. I'll probably take a break after this one to play some other games I picked up, then I'll come back to MEA in a few weeks and try a build or something I haven't tried yet.
MEA's status as a standalone title, the start of a Ryder trilogy, or the start of a trilogy with different protagonists each installment (ugh!) doesn't have any effect on how much I enjoy it or how much I'll replay it in the future. I love it right now and I'll continue to play it for that reason. Down the road, it'll be a game I always come back to. Just like the OT.
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Post by Fogg on Apr 21, 2017 17:04:00 GMT
ME:A made me realize that I mainly really love ME2. The others are just expansions on my ME2 love. I need more ME2.
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 21, 2017 17:11:50 GMT
You know I keep trying to think if there was ever a one and done game for me and the only one I can think of is Alpha Protocol. If there was ever a game that had great potential and failed that would be it. Now I loved it actually but it certainly wasn't issue free but it would have been a great series of games. I just have never played it again. I might reinstall and replay it someday.
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Post by sincro on Apr 21, 2017 19:07:12 GMT
I just finished my first playthrough last night. I think my final save file showed it took me 117 hours. I went everywhere, scanned everything, finished every non-bugged quest in the game, even visited every single system and planet for no reason whatsoever. I'm a little annoyed that my game says 99% complete, but I know it isn't my fault that I can't craft my Nomad shields, and I know I earned that badge. I have been waffling for about a week whether I wanted to go through the whole thing again, and I think that the only way I'd be able to do it, is if I literally skip all the non-essentials and focus on the mission. But, I just don't know if I can do that. I couldn't stop myself from continuing to scan and search every nook and cranny on the final jaunt to the Archon, and I highly doubt I'll be able to ignore the eleventy billion side-quests in my journal for an entire playthrough. I was able to, barely, stop myself from driving the Nomad all over Meridian instead of just going down the canyon to the quest marker. I still feel like I probably missed something there...
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Post by zeypher on Apr 21, 2017 19:28:28 GMT
Maybe if the patches fix the game balance. If not then i got no intention of replaying. Ryder is way too static of a character and i tried the different conversations options which are pretty much meaningless. Ryder through the game remains a swarmy piece of crap which really annoys me. Hell i could probably skip all dialogue which i started doing anyways but the combat and gameplay need a lot of balancing and fixing to actually enjoy it.
So basically waiting to see if patches add replayability back cause atm the game lacks it.
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Post by duckley on Apr 21, 2017 23:19:47 GMT
For me given my preferences in gaming, MEA has much more replayability that the other ME games - just more stuff to finish in future runs like all the tasks....
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Post by lurkinganon on Apr 21, 2017 23:49:06 GMT
ME2 is the most replayable probably because of the endless corridors you can talk and shoot your way through. Not like the Explorable Zones in 1 and Andromeda where you've got to do a fair amount of driving, shooting, inventory management and talking.
Chuck ME3 into the garbage.
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