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Post by sortiv on May 4, 2017 2:24:58 GMT
soundcloud.com/exalted-march/playing-hawke-as-a-hardcore-pro-mage-character-in-dragon-age-2This is basically me thinking out loud (with coffee) about why I roleplay Hawke the way I do most recently. Short version is that I like roleplaying Hawke to grow more and more extreme, which ultimately leads to a turning point and redemption of sorts in DA:I. Interested to see what people think... does anyone else role play like this? Has anyone ever done a mage Hawke who sides with templars? How did you think of Hawke's mentality for that?
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Post by Catilina on May 4, 2017 10:29:26 GMT
I mostly play with radical pro-mage Hawke (Anders/Fenris romance). Here is a playthrough, with my a bit crazy warrior. Once I sided with Templars for Carver, but only at the end, when would need to confront with him. This was a boring diplomatic, who always search a peaceful way, even is that seems impossible. (Maybe weird, but it was uncomfortable to play this end, I just see: my Hawke lost his mind that support that lunatic and kill his friend. I know, I'm a lame role player...) I don't see so much (logical) reason to support templars in DA2, they are just cruel and corrupts by the led of Meredith. Meredith is the biggest problem to Kirkwall. Despite this, I see a very protective, but an opportunist and peaceful Hawke how can support Meredith for Bethany. It makes some sense, to licking Meredith ass for some benefits for Bethany, but Meredith's unpredictable, and Bethany capable of keeping safe herself (this seems from her letter). So this would an interesting viewpoint, but a bit foolish to count with Meredith's benevolence. Not mentioned, that if she would able to support Hawkes ambitions for the Viscount title, under her "reign" Hawke would be only a puppet, than Dumar, because Meredith could blackmail him/her with Bethany. The opposite is my hot-headed warrior, who so angry, that undertakes the open confrontation with Meredith and Cullen, not counts the consequences... this also foolish, but was a good feeling to play this way. A smart pro-mage Hawke, if Bethany is Circle Mage can support the Mages, but avoid the open confrontation with Meredith and the Templars (lying, giving neutral answers). With Carver it depends on his/her temper: in friendship, I suppose s/he doesn't want to make his position more difficult, so, rather lying and giving neutral answers, while can support the mage rescue actions; in rivalry, Hawke doesn't care about, how can make more easy Carver's Templar life... Grey Warden or dead siblings, of course, do not affect his/her decisions. (True, Carver doesn't understand, why Hawke supports the Templars and betray his/her own fellows.) In this case, Hawke can support the Templars, if s/he hated his family and/or life. The key, that Meredith's lunatic, cruel and wants rule over Kirkwall. In Act1 this is clear, because Meredith breaks the Chantry's law with Carl's tranquilizing, and Samson also can speak about, what experienced he in the Gallows. This makes difficult to support Meredith, I think Hawke must extremely fear from magic to do it, but I don't see any reason, why Hawke would fear from Magic with his/her background. I can imagine that Hawke supports the Circles in another city (Malcolm was moderate about this issues), but not Kirkwall, ad not Meredith's Circle.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 15:15:28 GMT
My first Hawke was a Rogue, a Scoundrel that supported Anders all the way. It made a perfect sense to me, the easy-going, authorities hating kind of a character that was a law in himself. He got his noble papers as a front, and in my head-canon knew and approved of Anders’ plan to blow up the Chantry. My second Hawke is what you have asked about – the one that would side with Templars. She is an extreme, dark and jealous version of Merrill, and overall would like to be the only mage roaming free and untouchable, while the rest are confined and controlled. She’ll kill Anders and change her plans on the fly and hopes to capitalize on his actions and come to rule eventually as The Mage-Tyrant with Templars at her heels. If Inquisition weren’t such a drag, I’d have re-imagined her as an Inquisitor that keeps Inquisition and have Templars in her thrall. Obviously, such characters most often get ground into dust by the very machinery they set in motion, but she is too grandiose to think it will happen to her.
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Post by sortiv on May 8, 2017 15:47:21 GMT
My first Hawke was a Rogue, a Scoundrel that supported Anders all the way. It made a perfect sense to me, the easy-going, authorities hating kind of a character that was a law in himself. He got his noble papers as a front, and in my head-canon knew and approved of Anders’ plan to blow up the Chantry. My second Hawke is what you have asked about – the one that would side with Templars. She is an extreme, dark and jealous version of Merrill, and overall would like to be the only mage roaming free and untouchable, while the rest are confined and controlled. She’ll kill Anders and change her plans on the fly and hopes to capitalize on his actions and come to rule eventually as The Mage-Tyrant with Templars at her heels. If Inquisition weren’t such a drag, I’d have re-imagined her as an Inquisitor that keeps Inquisition and have Templars in her thrall. Obviously, such characters most often get ground into dust by the very machinery they set in motion, but she is too grandiose to think it will happen to her. Whoa. Once again, I'm impressed by someone else's roleplaying in the Bioware fandom... that is an excellent take on a Templar supporting mage. Now... damn it... now that might have to be my next run through. Well effing done.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 2:10:15 GMT
My canon was 100% friends with Anders and allied with the Mages. Tis is the luck of a snarky Hawke (who I don't think really cared about either side? He had very little sympathy for the mages after they decided to kidnap his brother.)
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 19:59:29 GMT
Personally I think mage is the most immersing class overall it has allot more flavor to the story line and more depth and extra dialogue options!!! And you get awesome spells !!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 20:34:34 GMT
Yep, I played a mage who sided with the Templars. She was a goody-two shoes, super diplomatic and sensible, very kind and essentially a younger version of Wynne. I RP'd that she had decided to go to the Mage Circle in Ferelden as she was sick of hiding, and wanted to learn more about magic with fellow mages. The tower was annulled in that world and she was heartbroken, then had to leave with her family to Kirkwall. She fell in love with Anders but was against Justice, seeing it as demon possession. She kept trying to get him to see sense but it didn't work, and she ended up in the arms of Fenris after the whole thing with Anders broke her heart. As the years went on she saw Anders less and less, fell in love with Fenris, and was besties with Aveline, Merril and Varric. Isabela thought she was a stick in the mud so ran off and never came back, and when the Chantry was destroyed Hawke knew she had to make things right. She felt somewhat responsible for Anders and still loved him, so she was able to talk him round into fighting with the Templars to restore order and save the lives of the innocent ppl of Kirkwall. (She didn't however have enough rivalry points for that as it would've entailed doing some very un-magey things, so I cheated on the console to give Anders 100% rivalry so she could save his life. The one time the rivalry system really annoyed me tbh. ) It broke her heart, she'd helped mages throughout the whole game but believed they had gone too far. She also wanted to prove to the world that some mages could be trusted, and hoped that by allying with the Templars she would save the lives of many mages all over Thedas by being a voice of reason. She totally understood the ramifications of Anders's act so was trying to stop a mage genocide by being on the side of the law. It was fun. So was my pro-Templar Hawke who was so damn sick of all the mages she spent most of the game killing them, complete with sarcastic quips. Now that was an awesome playthrough and it surprised me, there I was thinking she'd basically be a Nazi but I ended up loving her to death. She wanted to help, but her way of helping was turning up with a sword and killing all the annoying people. I loved her so much I didn't even have the heart to leave her in the fade. Neither got faded actually, I left that for my super rebellious mage who romanced Anders and helped him all the way, I felt that she deserved to be left there as she had been so instrumental in starting the war in the first place by egging him on.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 7:58:58 GMT
Yeah these reasons are good and all but mage Hawke doesn't get Bethany, so no.
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Post by Catilina on May 29, 2017 10:14:59 GMT
Yeah these reasons are good and all but mage Hawke doesn't get Bethany, so no. Mage Hawke can support him, because agree with him in everything about the Circle. Why this so unbelievable?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 10:47:44 GMT
Yeah these reasons are good and all but mage Hawke doesn't get Bethany, so no. Mage Hawke can support him, because agree with him in everything about the Circle. Why this so unbelievable? It's not unbelievable it's very believable in fact but being a mage Hawke means the death of Bethany that's why I said no
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