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Post by eriador117 on May 4, 2017 20:12:58 GMT
I've been playing on the PC with the Ser Gilmore mod, and this is who I am actively trying to romance. I don't know what I did, but Alistair was around 80 warm, and suddenly he's gone up to 90 adore! And Alistair has been teased by Wynne for staring at my character. I don't think I've flirted with him, at least not deliberately. Maybe I just didn't know what was a flirt. The red hearts make it so much easier in the later 2. And now Ser Gilmore has given me a jealousy talk. So Any ideas on how to let Alistair down gently? Ser Gilmore is at 100 Love and I'd like to keep it that way, but at the same time I don't want to be nasty to Alistair.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 20:32:32 GMT
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Post by MarilynRobert on May 4, 2017 20:44:37 GMT
I've been playing on the PC with the Ser Gilmore mod, and this is who I am actively trying to romance. I don't know what I did, but Alistair was around 80 warm, and suddenly he's gone up to 90 adore! And Alistair has been teased by Wynne for staring at my character. I don't think I've flirted with him, at least not deliberately. Maybe I just didn't know what was a flirt. The red hearts make it so much easier in the later 2. And now Ser Gilmore has given me a jealousy talk. So Any ideas on how to let Alistair down gently? Ser Gilmore is at 100 Love and I'd like to keep it that way, but at the same time I don't want to be nasty to Alistair. I can't give you the answer to this because the one time I was going to romance Ser Gilmore, using the mod, I couldn't help falling for Alistair AGAIN, and ditching Ser Gilmore. For the most part, Ser Gilmore ended up being a good place to store armor and weapons. Poor guy.
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Post by eriador117 on May 5, 2017 10:27:48 GMT
I've been playing on the PC with the Ser Gilmore mod, and this is who I am actively trying to romance. I don't know what I did, but Alistair was around 80 warm, and suddenly he's gone up to 90 adore! And Alistair has been teased by Wynne for staring at my character. I don't think I've flirted with him, at least not deliberately. Maybe I just didn't know what was a flirt. The red hearts make it so much easier in the later 2. And now Ser Gilmore has given me a jealousy talk. So Any ideas on how to let Alistair down gently? Ser Gilmore is at 100 Love and I'd like to keep it that way, but at the same time I don't want to be nasty to Alistair. I can't give you the answer to this because the one time I was going to romance Ser Gilmore, using the mod, I couldn't help falling for Alistair AGAIN, and ditching Ser Gilmore. For the most part, Ser Gilmore ended up being a good place to store armor and weapons. Poor guy. That's hilarious! I'll wait till we get back to camp and maybe give him a lump of coal
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 11:26:39 GMT
I had that problem with Zevran thinking we were in love because my character was flirty. I wanted to pretend it had never happened (rather than break up with him) so I gave him lots of onions from the gifts and he never mentioned it again. I hate the way BioWare used to deal with that tho, having to be super mean to Alistair or Ashley just because they ninja-manced you.
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Post by eriador117 on May 5, 2017 15:35:31 GMT
I had that problem with Zevran thinking we were in love because my character was flirty. I wanted to pretend it had never happened (rather than break up with him) so I gave him lots of onions from the gifts and he never mentioned it again. I hate the way BioWare used to deal with that tho, having to be super mean to Alistair or Ashley just because they ninja-manced you. I accidentally clicked on Alistair while we were in Redcliffe and he gave me a rose. I turned him down, but he still seemed to think we were in a relationship. Wynne thought we were too and told me off. That I had bigger concerns in the world than loving Alistair. When we got back to camp I talked to him and he was all lovey-dovey and I had to break his heart. Sorry Alistair I lost 26 points with him, but he still seems to be my friend. Hopefully just friend this time Finally managed to get together with Ser Gilmore this time and it's so romantic. I just have to watch out for Zevran or Leliana ninja-mancing me as well, LOL!
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 15:59:25 GMT
I accidentally clicked on Alistair while we were in Redcliffe and he gave me a rose. I turned him down, but he still seemed to think we were in a relationship. Wynne thought we were too and told me off. That I had bigger concerns in the world than loving Alistair. When we got back to camp I talked to him and he was all lovey-dovey and I had to break his heart. Sorry Alistair I lost 26 points with him, but he still seems to be my friend. Hopefully just friend this time Finally managed to get together with Ser Gilmore this time and it's so romantic. I just have to watch out for Zevran or Leliana ninja-mancing me as well, LOL! It's tough being so damn irresistable isn't it.
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Post by secretrare on May 5, 2017 18:37:24 GMT
Ser Gilmore is not available in the game,unless you was talking about the mod. I like him way more than Alistair,in fact I've never went along with AListair at all.
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Post by eriador117 on May 5, 2017 22:02:00 GMT
Ser Gilmore is not available in the game,unless you was talking about the mod. I like him way more than Alistair,in fact I've never went along with AListair at all. Yes, I used the mod from the Nexus.
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Post by phoray on May 7, 2017 4:09:21 GMT
I thought this was going to be a post like, "How to lose a guy in ten days" except Dragon Age Style. Wee bit disappointed.
I once was playing a Surana meant to romance Alistair and then do the US. Instead she romanced Zevran and let Loghain do the Sacrifice. I played her as being romantically naive and not getting what the rose was all about. So when Alistair finally asked if they were a thing or if he was imagining it, Surane finally "got" that he was into her and let him down gently. It was still painful to me, the player. Didn't occur to me to onion him away!
*imagines throwing onions at Alistair until he flees camp*
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Post by Iddy on May 8, 2017 19:46:05 GMT
"How not to romance Alistair".
Answer: It is impossible not to romance Alistair, unless you're playing as a guy.
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Post by arvaarad on May 9, 2017 2:26:08 GMT
I had that problem with Zevran thinking we were in love because my character was flirty. I wanted to pretend it had never happened (rather than break up with him) so I gave him lots of onions from the gifts and he never mentioned it again. I hate the way BioWare used to deal with that tho, having to be super mean to Alistair or Ashley just because they ninja-manced you. I kind of wish ninjamancing was still a thing. Felt more natural to not 100% know which lines would be interpreted as flirty by the other person.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 21:09:35 GMT
"How not to romance Alistair". Answer: It is impossible not to romance Alistair, unless you're playing as a guy. Or you ninjad by Leliana first.
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Post by Iddy on May 9, 2017 23:33:26 GMT
"How not to romance Alistair". Answer: It is impossible not to romance Alistair, unless you're playing as a guy. Or you ninjad by Leliana first.
I haven't seen any situation where you might trigger Leliana's romance without openly flirting with her. You're more likely to get ninja'd by Zevran, because all it takes is not being clear enough in your rejection of him.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 2:24:13 GMT
Or you ninjad by Leliana first.
I haven't seen any situation where you might trigger Leliana's romance without openly flirting with her. You're more likely to get ninja'd by Zevran, because all it takes is not being clear enough in your rejection of him. I know a way. Talk and agree with her about dem shoes. That is how you get suddenly and ubertly ninjaed by Leliana.
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Post by Norstaera on Jun 2, 2017 15:14:08 GMT
But, the shoes!
I've played a female who never ninjamanced Alistair. One thing I don't usually do, is give gifts for approval. If I am romancing somebody, then I'll give a gift occasionally, but usually not until I'm on the romance path. I find it more satisfying and I have more control over the pacing this way.
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Post by kalasaurus on Jun 5, 2017 8:39:33 GMT
I meta'd the hell out of the dialogue in DAO, looking at the wikis to see which dialogue triggers the romance and approvals. Some obvious, some not so obvious. And some are strangely late in the game. I basically had them memorized. I enjoy picking apart dialogue As for Alistair's romance triggers on the wiki, here they are if you're curious/wish to avoid/want to begin it at certain points: - "Has anyone told you how handsome you are?" (the main romance initiator dialogue by the Warden):
- "And if it is? What then?"
- "That would be nice."
- "Not unless you don't think so."
- "If you were raised in the Chantry, have you never...?"
- "Not really, no." > "I think I'd like that."
- "You think I'm beautiful?" > "I might like hearing it. From you."
- His dialogue upon reaching Redcliffe:
- "You're a prince. Somehow I find that very... thrilling."
- "You're here with me. I think I'm the lucky one."
- "Why did you keep your birthright a secret?"
- "I do like you, and not because of your blood."
- Giving him his mother's amulet:
- "Of course I remembered. You're special to me."
- "What changes about you after the Joining?"
- "Just try that line on me." > "Really? Why don't you try them?"
- At the Arl of Redcliffe's estate after speaking to Anora:
- "I think you'd be a great king, Alistair." > "Power makes men incredibly attractive."
- Giving him Duncan's shield:
- "For you? Anything."
It's probably a bit late to be answering the OP by now, but here are some ways to let him down gently (meaning, lower approval drop ): Nicer Ways (minimal approval drops):- Alistair's Rose
- "I'm not interested, Alistair. I'm sorry." (no approval change)
- "So all this time we've spent together... you know: the tragedy, the brushes with death, the constant battles with the whole Blight looming over us... will you miss it once it's over?"
- "I'm sorry, Alistair. I don't think so." (-20, direct at least)
- "I don't know. It's too soon to say." > "Yes. Definitely too soon for that." (-15, but after he kisses the Warden)
- "If you were raised in the Chantry, have you never...?"
- "Not really, no." > "Not my type." (-3)
- "You think I'm beautiful?" > "I wouldn't, if I were you." (-6)
- "Why did you keep your birthright a secret?" (may be too late for this, but...)
- "I liked you. Now I don't even know who you are." (no approval change)
- Post-Goldanna chat if you choose not to harden him:
- "I don't feel the same way, I'm afraid." (-10)
- Another nice way (imo) to end it once in a relationship with him unfortunately requires sleeping with him first though (and at Love); so this would likely conflict with your roleplay: "Where do you see this going between us?"
- "I don't know that there is a future for us, actually." > "There isn't. Let's end this now." (no approval change)
- There also is a way to just end it in the "let's speak in private" dialogue, with no approval change as far as I can remember.
Here are the not-so nice ways to end his romance which reset his approval to 0 (if you're curious):- Alistair's Rose
- "And so you give me a flower? Brilliant Plan."
- "So all this time we've spent together... you know: the tragedy, the brushes with death, the constant battles with the whole Blight looming over us... will you miss it once it's over?"
- "More joking? You are a very funny man."
- "Care to join me in my tent?"
- "Forget it, Alistair. I need a real man."
- "Then forget it. I can't be bothered."
- "'Give it a shot?' You weren't wrong about the idiot part." (-20 approval, strangely doesn't drop to 0)
- "What was it like to be a Grey Warden, with all the others?"
- "Duncan deserved what he got." (not mentioned in the wiki, but I'm pretty sure I read this confirmed elsewhere)
- Getting Alistair to marry Anora before the Landsmeet:
- "There is no 'us.'" (no approval change mentioned in the wiki, but I'm going to assume here)
- "You'll do it because I tell you to."
- When Alistair approaches the Warden in the camp (at Love). (Note: I'm not saying it's mean--especially if ninja'd--but I read somewhere it drops the approval to 0):
- "I... don't feel the same way. I'm sorry."
The jealousy conversations concerning Leliana and Zevran are kind of confusing in the wiki, but pretty straightforward in what they mean and a landmine of approval drops for all. Source that's more detailed on his dialogue and approval. It doesn't include all his dialogue, though; I can't find a full list anymore: dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Alistair/Approval
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 12:08:53 GMT
"How not to romance Alistair". Answer: It is impossible not to romance Alistair, unless you're playing as a guy. You can always threaten priests and kick puppies. He won't fall for someone like that. But, why wouldn't you want to? D: He's a sweetheart. XD Yes, yes. I know some ppl don't like him or romance someone else. By the way, I find it harder not to be hit on by Zevran, who unlike Alistair, likes ALL my wardens. Except for the one I've decided to actually romance him on. An elven mage... whut is he being picky about? I think ignoring him turns him on more than flirting. I haven't tried any mods yet, but some minor characters elicit more like from me than Warden's party members. I instantly liked Ser Gilmore too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 12:24:18 GMT
*imagines throwing onions at Alistair until he flees camp* And then he gets the unjust reputation that he smells. Of course if people are sticking onions into his labelled socks. D:
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Post by phoray on Aug 14, 2017 12:48:59 GMT
*imagines throwing onions at Alistair until he flees camp* And then he gets the unjust reputation that he smells. Of course if people are sticking onions into his labelled socks. D: Morrigan approves +10
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 13:20:11 GMT
And then he gets the unjust reputation that he smells. Of course if people are sticking onions into his labelled socks. D: Morrigan approves +10 Wynne disapproves and moves out of the camp windward. -5 Supers disapproves and goes to snuggle to Wynne to bring her back after chewing up Alistair's onion socks. -3
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 16, 2017 22:54:55 GMT
How not to romance Alistair: Step one- Meet Zevran Enjoy your new not Alistair romance
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How not to romance Alistair: Step one- Meet Zevran Enjoy your new not Alistair romance Doesn't work. One of my characters is romancing Zevran and I have a high approval with Alistair, but stuck Alistair into friend zone. Well... Alistair asks Leliana how could anyone fall for a guy like Zevran. Sounds like personal interest right there. So, he's still thinking it.
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 16, 2017 23:28:15 GMT
How not to romance Alistair: Step one- Meet Zevran Enjoy your new not Alistair romance Doesn't work. One of my characters is romancing Zevran and I have a high approval with Alistair, but stuck Alistair into friend zone. Well... Alistair asks Leliana how could anyone fall for a guy like Zevran. Sounds like personal interest right there. So, he's still thinking it. How not to romance Alistair: *written in fine print at the bottom of the page* For any who are floundering after step one an emergency two steps can be used. Step two- Play a male character Step three- Revisit step one
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 23:33:20 GMT
Doesn't work. One of my characters is romancing Zevran and I have a high approval with Alistair, but stuck Alistair into friend zone. Well... Alistair asks Leliana how could anyone fall for a guy like Zevran. Sounds like personal interest right there. So, he's still thinking it. How not to romance Alistair: *written in fine print at the bottom of the page* For any who are floundering after step one an emergency two steps can be used. Step two- Play a male character Step three- Revisit step one Step Four - Declare undying love for Loghain.
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