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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 8, 2019 2:26:33 GMT
Honestly all I care about is the SP experience. They can do what they want, as long as they deliver a story I can enjoy.
Everything else is icing on the cake.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 8, 2019 2:24:17 GMT
haha It would be nice to see a hunky, buff desire demon whispering sweet nothings in my mage's ears. Of course I would promptly set him on fire, but some foreplay is cool. I don't know why but listening to this description made me think of Thor/ Chris Hemsworth. Though I suppose Jason Mamoa might also work. I like your imagination.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 8, 2019 2:15:18 GMT
Imshael was a desire demon, wasn't he? Well I felt no desire so he failed. haha It would be nice to see a hunky, buff desire demon whispering sweet nothings in my mage's ears. Of course I would promptly set him on fire, but some foreplay is cool.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 8, 2019 2:04:58 GMT
Odyssey ran with cosmetic and gameplay microtransactions though, which is definitely an alternative to multiplayer. Personally I'd prefer multiplayer over a store as at least the former has some story potential in it. In DAI/ME3/MEA I would weave in MP games with my SP experience in order to increase immersion through simulated environments where my character wasn't the center of the narrative/universe. I particularly loved it in ME3 as there was a serious immediacy to the whole situation and I really felt like I was part of the scramble no matter who I played as, with Shepard at point. I know, and I even agree with you to a point I'm just saying there have been very successful modern Tripple A RPGs...and even western RPGs which don't have any MP component at all. I'm kind of interested to see BioWare continue to experiment with various forms of Multiplayer but just pointing out that in the wake of Odyssey it might happen. Well yes. Multiplayer exists to support game longevity and the subsequent transaction potential. If a company can procure that differently then it's an option. Dragon Age games have longevity by nature of their existence as a multi-class, multi-racial, strongly narrative-oriented, party-focused, and relatively non-linear gameplay. So the transaction potential is already there. So it's quite possible for a Dragon Age store to be even more successful than the Odyssey one whether it's XP pots or armor sets. However, Dragon Age fans in particular (moreso than the typical BioWare fan) love to mod and a store runs directly counter to that as a store's success depends on who holds the cards and mods put that squarely in the player's (much to my relief). Modding would be heavily restricted for sure, but I'm sure industrious fans will crack the code at some point But yeah I still favor multiplayer. Not only is that at no extra cost to enjoy (unlike a store), it can enhance SP RPG experience if you, well, roleplay
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 8, 2019 1:51:23 GMT
You know there is a possibility that with Odysseys success DA 4 might not have any mp at all. Odyssey ran with cosmetic and gameplay microtransactions though, which is definitely an alternative to multiplayer. Personally I'd prefer multiplayer over a store as at least the former has some story potential in it. In DAI/ME3/MEA I would weave in MP games with my SP experience in order to increase immersion through simulated environments where my character wasn't the center of the narrative/universe. I particularly loved it in ME3 as there was a serious immediacy to the whole situation and I really felt like I was part of the scramble no matter who I played as, with Shepard at point.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 7, 2019 12:05:10 GMT
People often think that multiplayer detracts from single player when there isn't a shred of evidence that this is the case. Multiplayer uses the same resources and art as single player and is often constructed using mechanics also used in the single player game. BioWare games in particular don't have a unique multiplayer experience distinct from the single player game. There isn't any evidence that multiplayer prospects can add to the single player game's budget but if one is willing to believe that MP cuts from SP costs despite there being no evidence then you can probably believe this as well if your agenda leaned in a different direction. Point is multiplayer is a significant asset that can supplement a single player game. A pure SP experience with no microtransactions and no MP is no longer a sustainable business model. Even purely "SP" games have lootboxes and microtransactions. And ultimately your opinion, while shared by many, is also disagreed upon by many. Assassin's Creed Odyssey contained all that you mentioned and people still roasted it for having microtransactions. God of War wants you to hold their beer. I guess Sony Santa Monica is going to go out of business because according to you: "A pure SP experience with no microtransactions and no MP is no longer a sustainable business model." Just because it can still work in some situations doesn't make it a standard business model that most companies/investors will rely on. You can quote a few examples that managed to make it work. It doesn't make them the rule. It makes them the exception. There are quite a few parameters that you are gladly ignoring for your agenda such as the fact that all these games you listed being PS4 exclusives. This means that they not only have to support just one platform (so their measure of success is also pretty relative), they also likely have deals with Sony in place for that exclusivity in the first place. In some cases, like Horizon, the developer is not based in North America. If you want to dig in to the intricacies of tax benefits, developer wages, and business costs between the USA and Europe (especially Netherlands and Eastern Europe), go right ahead. Lower relative costs means lower investment count means more risks. All of that makes up for the lack of live service options. One-dimensional hyperbolic reasoning is standard around here though. I'm sure you think those companies were being altruistic and the investors just love gamers so much! Roflmfao Maybe DA4 should be PS4 exclusive. RIP Romance mods. Maybe just relocate all of BioWare to Poland so that we can have cheaper games! Screw devs' livelihood I can't have MP in my games!
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 6, 2019 5:00:22 GMT
*is in Australia where new AAA games cost upwards of $90 and even $100 for no good reason* That's usually monetary conversion or tariffs at work. Yeah 1 AUSD = 0.7 USD so a 60$ game in the USA costs ~85$ in AUS
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 6, 2019 4:49:14 GMT
People often think that multiplayer detracts from single player when there isn't a shred of evidence that this is the case. That's because multiplayer does detract from single player. ME3 (EMS) is one example. The what now? How is this relevant to development costs? One could achieve max EMS and then some without ever touching MP. That MP can supplement the SP experience indirectly is hardly a problem. Bahahaha. This is rich. Games provide dozens of hours of entertainment at such a cost efficient rate that it's outright hilarious how game's still cost in the range of 60$
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 6, 2019 3:33:29 GMT
People that dont want any MP need to get a reality check. Why? I'm perfectly happy not playing any MP in my SP games, or any MP at all actually.
Between shitty connections, grinding for decent gear, and generally being nothing but a time sink....why would I want MP?
Give me weapon and armor packs for my SP game and I'll buy them. DLC for my SP game? I'll buy it. Dragon décor for Skyhold? LET ME BUY IT ALREADY!
People often think that multiplayer detracts from single player when there isn't a shred of evidence that this is the case. Multiplayer uses the same resources and art as single player and is often constructed using mechanics also used in the single player game. BioWare games in particular don't have a unique multiplayer experience distinct from the single player game. There isn't any evidence that multiplayer prospects can add to the single player game's budget but if one is willing to believe that MP cuts from SP costs despite there being no evidence then you can probably believe this as well if your agenda leaned in a different direction. Point is multiplayer is a significant asset that can supplement a single player game. A pure SP experience with no microtransactions and no MP is no longer a sustainable business model. Even purely "SP" games have lootboxes and microtransactions. And ultimately your opinion, while shared by many, is also disagreed upon by many. Assassin's Creed Odyssey contained all that you mentioned and people still roasted it for having microtransactions.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 5, 2019 11:47:30 GMT
People that dont want any MP need to get a reality check.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 4, 2019 18:32:39 GMT
As any other BioWare game I'm sure there'll be beautiful charismatic women NPCs.
Interestingly I found most of Anthem's NPCs to be rather attractive. I think it's that they look a lot more realistic in their animations as opposed to them being conventionally alluring or anything. So if DA4 follows suit I think all will be well for the thirsty.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 3, 2019 3:26:21 GMT
Today in Anthem I solo'ed a Titan that came with elemental spawns on my Storm while doing one of the agent quests.
The adrenaline rush was real. Playing privately while doing the story has really paid off.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 2, 2019 21:49:04 GMT
I want to be a Human Altus Mage really. Equally fun would be a Human from an important mage family that has no magical skills whatsoever. the last one please. It would be fairly straightforward to do both actually. If they retain the concept of the Mage/Warrior/Rogue class, a Human character who picks the "Altus origin" or whatever would have a different starting experience depending on their class. Imagine a scene where you are to meet you and your sibling are to meet your mother before you do something. If you're a Mage, the scene involves you mother being proud of you and showering you with a kind of self-serving love. If you're a Warrior or Rogue, your mother treats you almost with disdain and disappointment. Your sibling has the opposite experience, and you react to it differently depending on your personality. Bonus points if your sibling is a sweetheart as a warrior/rogue but a complete jerk if they're a mage, just to drill how being a mage in Tevinter can change you.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 2, 2019 17:08:35 GMT
Crowdsourcing your opinion simply doesn't work. Crowd sourcing information and experiences to form an opinion before I act or make a mistake has worked really damn well in all aspects of my life so far, be it medications, buying stuff, visiting places... We're talking about digital entertainment. It is far more subjective than medications and tools. Vacation spots are comparable but again this is the digital sphere and is far less tangible and costly so it's almost a hyperbolic comparison. You can't crowdsource your opinion on a game. It just does not work, because again your experiences are not likely to be the same as anyone else as you have a unique machine, a unique set of perspectives and goals, and a unique set of expectations. When you latch on to other people's set of "uniqueness" you internalize them yourself even though they don't apply to you. This cannot be said for medications, tools, and vacation spots. And worst of all, a lot of these "concerns" others may have may never be noticed or encountered by you. There are posts on the internet that can break down the faults with any book or movie that may have enchanted you in the past. The profileration of information, while beneficial, runs counter to entertainment as the "magic" of first time experience is lost. There is a reason that people's standards keep rising and rising. Not only do people expect the game to work for them, they now apparently expect it to uniformly work for everyone else. Games have been buggy messes since time immemorial. The difference is that people are now aware of all faults at all times at all points of release There's something to be said about "Ignorance is bliss". When it comes to entertainment, does anything matter other than entertainment and having fun? Would Dragon Age Origins have been as revered if people cared about every single bug that ever plagued it? Every glitch? That awful memory leak? It seems that many people lose sight of why they play games in the first place. Sad truth.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 2, 2019 13:49:08 GMT
I want to be a Human Altus Mage really.
Equally fun would be a Human from an important mage family that has no magical skills whatsoever.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 2, 2019 13:40:42 GMT
Fuck review. Fuck youtubers. Just buy the bloody game,play it and form your opinion and stop being a little bitch about "oh God I wasted my money". Thats unwise advice because that way you end up with a lot of trash products you wasted your money and time on. I don't have enough money to spend it on stuff I might end up not liking - before I buy stuff, no matter if its games, cars or what have you, I always check out as many different sources for information as possible to keep my frustration at a minimum. And in case of games that is reviews and demos. I assume one has an understanding of what they enjoy or not. One can easily dislike actually playing something even when people say it's great. So no it's not unwise advice. You are interested in Anthem. You play Anthem to form your opinion. And frankly, a lot of the time the things that reviews and even demos show you aren't reflected in your experience. Crowdsourcing your opinion simply doesn't work.For all the bugs I hear about Anthem, I barely experienced any myself (although I have had a random crash or two). I haven't reached endgame yet because I don't have all the time in the world, so complaints about the "grind" just don't exist for me yet. I actually talk to NPCs unlike many of these reviewers who often just jump from mission to mission. I mostly play Private so bad experiences with randoms doesn't affect me... etc.. etc.. etc.. If I had crowdsourced my opinion I wouldn't have given the game a chance because I'd have been concerned about things that never applied to my experience.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 2, 2019 1:08:45 GMT
Just the villain bit. Getting the impression he's had arguments with people about how to classify Solas.
Not really. I personally hope he's not a villain at all.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 1, 2019 23:55:56 GMT
I mean you played the whole day. I assume on some level you had fun doing so regardless of the loot outcome.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 1, 2019 23:51:05 GMT
As far as I know the only people that want this game to die are mostly doing it because they want to hurt EA or have a bone to pick with BioWare for its progressive "agendas".... and all it takes is some coordinated effort by a couple of reddit subs to trash talk the game. As soon as I saw all the microtransaction/EA QQ on metacritic I knew there was review bombing canned responses going on, because there's barely any microtransactions going on in the game. In fact there's a reddit post right now complaining that the store is too limited. I'm sure Anthem is going to be a financial success. Reviews are an obsolete relic of gaming past and need to be reformed to be of any value to any consumer with a brain. Unpopular opinion. Fuck review. Fuck youtubers. Just buy the bloody game,play it and form your opinion and stop being a little bitch about "oh God I wasted my money". That should be how everyone forms an opinion. It seems that too many people rely on testimonials on social media nowadays. Everyone falls victim to it though at some level. It ruined MEA for me. I've been determined to never let it happen again. I don't follow social media surrounding games anymore near release dates.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 1, 2019 23:47:43 GMT
People glossing over Weekes outright calling Solas a villain. I recall people theorizing that he's actually an anti-hero. Because he didn't. All the time he's talking about the perception of Solas among fans. That's not how I read his statement. Why would they be concerned about the "bisexual" trope when it comes far before the "villain" trope is revealed at the very last DLC? His statement rather implies he's referring to the entire theme of Solas as perceived by the writers from the very beginning and their concern stemmed from users perceiving the trope the same way. But he also does say "amoral" so that circles back to the user as I doubt the writers perceive him as amoral. So I think it's just a poorly conveyed statement and this entire line of discussion has been pointless
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 1, 2019 18:39:10 GMT
This explanation annoys me. If they're really worried about bisexual tropes/stereotyping maybe don't make the promiscuous companion bi again. Dragon age has been better about that then alot of things because they also have bi characters who aren't - but 3 games in a row the "slutty" companion has been bi/pan. Its all very well to say you design the character first and then decide their romancability, that sounds great in theory, but when you decide every slutty/promiscuous companion feels like they're bi then maybe its time to self examine why. It didn't bother me in the first 2 games but now its turned into a pattern. Josie was neither promiscious nor a slut. Personally I'm glad they did this. Diversity should never be about forcing it but what's best for the story/ characters. And for Solas...it works. They were probably referring to Iron Bull.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 1, 2019 18:38:31 GMT
People glossing over Weekes outright calling Solas a villain. I recall people theorizing that he's actually an anti-hero. He been stating the "bisexual villain" thing for years. But its the name of the trope, so...?
I'd say Solas is an anti-villain, anyway, if we're to classify him beyond "antagonist". He could turn anti-hero or stay anti-villain, depending on where things go.
What I meant is that he referred to Solas as filling the trope of a villain.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 1, 2019 18:34:36 GMT
Indeed it is, just checked it myself. Still among the top sellers on the PS Store. It's honestly hilarious how bi-polar this games reception is. People either love it, or hate its guts and want it to die. It's a pretty amusing experience, even more so when I'm so busy having fun playing the game! *Insert hanged man meme from the ballad of buster scruggs*
This your first bioware game release?
Really, it's exactly like previous games. The only difference is that this time it is aimed at not solely an rpg audience (and thus, larger), hence there are more loud voiced opponents.
As far as I know the only people that want this game to die are mostly doing it because they want to hurt EA or have a bone to pick with BioWare for its progressive "agendas".... and all it takes is some coordinated effort by a couple of reddit subs to trash talk the game. As soon as I saw all the microtransaction/EA QQ on metacritic I knew there was review bombing canned responses going on, because there's barely any microtransactions going on in the game. In fact there's a reddit post right now complaining that the store is too limited. I'm sure Anthem is going to be a financial success. Reviews are an obsolete relic of gaming past and need to be reformed to be of any value to any consumer with a brain.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 1, 2019 18:25:26 GMT
Can we stop flaming each other? You are such a sly one. You like his posts where he flames me, but then I respond and it's all "hay guize les be nice okayys?" When you aren't consistent, you become transparent. We see right through. This is Trolling 101
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 1, 2019 18:22:05 GMT
People glossing over Weekes outright calling Solas a villain. I recall people theorizing that he's actually an anti-hero.
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