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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 27, 2018 2:16:42 GMT
The concept by itself as gameplay, visuals and atmosphere goes is straight down my alley. As a BIOWARE game tho? No, it's not what I'd want from them. It's a destiny clone that should have been given to another company not Buoware. And it's creation indirectly caused the failures of Andromeda.
I've got the feeling that the Bio we knew arrived at a Pivotal Point with Anthem. I doubt we will see any future ME or MA type games for at least the next 10 years, especially if Anthem is a success.
DA4 may be the last of the "Old Bio". Even then, I expect some serious design changes.
Hence why I'm hoping for total failure
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 26, 2018 20:38:04 GMT
You like gameplay, visuals and atmosphere but that doesn't feel like a Bioware game? So what did you liked on Bioware games (which were always changing if we look at DA and ME series)? Also it is nonsense saying that this game was responsible for the "failure"(game did sold well enough according to EA) of MEA just because it was made by one of Bioware studios. By the same argument I could also say the game was responsible for DAI sucess (both from critic and sales). ps: We are here for the ride. Thankfully we (fans) don't dictate what bioware does or doesn't do, otherwise we would have to content with some unplayable monster. read the above post for the first part of your question. Uhm.. you trying to ignore things or what? Let's recap. No member of the DAI team, as far as we know, was pulled from DAI to make Anthem. The ME team WAS pulled to make Anthem and MEA was made by the studio responsible for such gems as THE FREAKING OMEGA DLC and no real FULL game experience. DAI was successful, MEA flopped HARD and support to it was cut. How more simply can I put it so you see the connection? Also, we don't decide what Bioware does? Really? Because last I checked Bioware wanted to continue single player support to Andromeda (you know with heavy hints about the Quarian ark and whatnot) yet because of the collective reaction of the fans and media to it they got shut down. So sure, we might not dictate to them exactly what to do but our reaction to Anthem will decide future endeavors hence why I am truly hoping it fails.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 26, 2018 20:29:05 GMT
The concept by itself as gameplay, visuals and atmosphere goes is straight down my alley. As a BIOWARE game tho? No, it's not what I'd want from them. It's a destiny clone that should have been given to another company not Buoware. And it's creation indirectly caused the failures of Andromeda. No disrespect m8 but that reads like more shit than i even post. The concept, gameplay, visuals an atmosphere (basically the game) are what you like but BioWare so frack that? Given to another company? "here dice wee got this idea you an respawn wannae flip for it" Cmon man, as a wee wiseman said, emotions are the way to the darkside uhm..story delivery, squad mate interaction, character building, character development based missions, romances and so on and so forth. The combat gameplay to me is only half of what a Bioware game is. Btw dont even try to tell me that is what Fort Tarsis is for because 1: we know nothing about how that works since Bioware is doing its best to shove the shared world shit in our faces and hide the rest and 2: we already know there are no squad mates and so far I do not even see a proper dialogue interface so fuck that...
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 26, 2018 19:08:28 GMT
Anger...bitterness...disappointment....incredulity....perhaps in the future schadenfreude Take your pick oh ok, glad to see you're covering all the bases... Maybe this is just a game you don't like? One not made for you? The concept by itself as gameplay, visuals and atmosphere goes is straight down my alley. As a BIOWARE game tho? No, it's not what I'd want from them. It's a destiny clone that should have been given to another company not Buoware. And it's creation indirectly caused the failures of Andromeda.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 26, 2018 16:20:15 GMT
It literally söunds like Destiny withöut PVP. It has some similarities with Destiny (the looting part). But there's also a lot of Mass Effect 3 & Andromeda multiplayer in there. I think it could be interesting. and none of its SP, we had this conversation before
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 26, 2018 16:19:16 GMT
1: DO NOT tell me what I want/feel/wish for. I will do that, thank you very much. 2: I want it to fail because EA only understand MONEY, if the game fails just like Andromeda did then it will he abandoned and Bioware will go back to Mass Effect with its A Team not with the scrubs that made MEA. 3: Exactly what was the hyperbole in my post? 4: Lastly, Check my gamertag. See what Buoware games I played, to that Add Baldur's gate on PC. Jade Empire on Xbox and MDK on PS1. I'm no hater but yeah I will not enjoy the game because, lo and behold, I do not like Destiny and its ilk and this is. De facto, a destiny clone from all those who have had their time with it in particular the people from this video. That's all very well, and those are opinions you may of course hold. People don't have to like every game. But I'm curious: I notice you post exclusively in the Anthem sub-forum (in recent months anyway). So why nigh on 50 posts about a game you won't enjoy, and have no interest in playing? Something's compelling you to write. Just wondered... Anger...bitterness...disappointment....incredulity....perhaps in the future schadenfreude Take your pick
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 26, 2018 13:05:06 GMT
You want if to fail because you are a hater who can't/won't enjoy the game and also don't want anyone else enjoying it too, hence why all the hyperbole in your post. Pretty sad if i say so. 1: DO NOT tell me what I want/feel/wish for. I will do that, thank you very much. 2: I want it to fail because EA only understand MONEY, if the game fails just like Andromeda did then it will he abandoned and Bioware will go back to Mass Effect with its A Team not with the scrubs that made MEA. 3: Exactly what was the hyperbole in my post? 4: Lastly, Check my gamertag. See what Buoware games I played, to that Add Baldur's gate on PC. Jade Empire on Xbox and MDK on PS1. I'm no hater but yeah I will not enjoy the game because, lo and behold, I do not like Destiny and its ilk and this is. De facto, a destiny clone from all those who have had their time with it in particular the people from this video.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 25, 2018 1:30:25 GMT
Three things so far... Very Destiny-esque. Very looter-shooter. Very bullet spongey. And the video is barely halfway done. Time to plaster on a shit eating grin and plow through the rest of this shit. "It's a real contender for the MMORPG market, like Destiny, The Division," "MMO lite." Heh. I hate to say that I told ya so... But. I told ya so. /facepalm And this is me taking them AT THEIR WORD. I'm simply tossing back WHAT WAS SAID. and yet....Casey said this was going to feel "distinctly Bioware " Lol, and people still defend this WTF? Mass Effect was effectively, tho indirectly, killed FOR A DEDTINY CLONE!? And then people wonder why I want this to fail miserably
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 18, 2018 23:04:00 GMT
no I was agreeing with a specific part of your post... I didn't tget the translation part. sorry it's a turn of phrase in ny language
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 18, 2018 11:48:36 GMT
Translation it is more immersive than having some rando scream "Maaaa....the MEATLOAF. We want it NOW!!!" But did you not see Anthem and the division's presentation? The people you play with are gonna a be super hardcore in character all the time and having "real people" say something funny during your gameplay is SO MUCH BETTER than having squadmates amirite???? -headdesks several times- hit the wrong quote maybe? no I was agreeing with a specific part of your post...
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 18, 2018 10:16:21 GMT
If it lets you, someone from the 'I did a solo on Platinum' crowd, will inevitably attempt it. From the answers I've been seeing there are 'reasons' why you need more than one. It's not just about beating a challenge. Soloing was different in that the atmosphere was different. No other players contributing to the sound ambience made quite a difference. And fighting Geth chirping in the rain with a lone melee Krogan was something special. Translation it is more immersive than having some rando scream "Maaaa....the MEATLOAF. We want it NOW!!!" But did you not see Anthem and the division's presentation? The people you play with are gonna a be super hardcore in character all the time and having "real people" say something funny during your gameplay is SO MUCH BETTER than having squadmates amirite???? -headdesks several times-
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 15, 2018 23:39:26 GMT
If anthem is a smashing success it will be only a matter of time before that is all Bioware will be doing soon. Sorry to re-reply to the same comment, but I bought this quote from a recent interview was relevant: you mean like when he said that the reason why it took only 2 years for DA2 to come out was not because the game was rushed but because the devs were so awesome they were ahead of schedule? Yeah I'll believe that if and when Anthem is a smashing success and we get a PROPER A team made Mass Effect game TYVM.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 11, 2018 14:38:09 GMT
And more and more I am wishing Anthem to fail miserably, perhaps the message will be received loud and clear at that point and Bioware can go back to make single player narrative and character driven experiences...unless EA just shoots them in the back of the head like they did with other studios. Oh well, if that happens we still have CDPR. Well, that's not very nice and somewhat inconsiderate of many other fans that either do like the sound of the game or in any event would like BioWare to continue in economic health to work on future projects. I hope your wish is utterly dashed. BioWare doesn't make games for you personally. I hope there was an element of hyperbole in your post. if I have a favorite pizza joint that makes REALLY good pizza I do not freaking want them to start serving Chinese food for a year while I have to either find another pizza joint or wait until they decide to serve pizza again. Sure there is a bunch of people who like Chinese food who would be delighted but that is not the point is it. The people who came to expect great pizza are just going to feel betrayed. Especially when there are SEVERAL OTHER Chinese food joints just down the street. Now since EA only understands $$$ the only way they will learn is if the game horribly underperforms (you just like how they simply pulled the plug on Andromeda after setting it up for failure and watching it fail). Simple as that. If anthem is a smashing success it will be only a matter of time before that is all Bioware will be doing soon.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 11, 2018 14:22:41 GMT
And more and more I am wishing Anthem to fail miserably, perhaps the message will be received loud and clear at that point and Bioware can go back to make single player narrative and character driven experiences...unless EA just shoots them in the back of the head like they did with other studios. Oh well, if that happens we still have CDPR. Heaven forbid someone with tastes different from your own enjoy themselves... Dragon Age is coming, nobody’s taking that away from you. heaven forbid other studios could make that kind of game for them while Bioware keeps producing the games I came to expect from them right? Destiny is still out there, no one is taking that away from you. So is the division, so is Fallout 76, so is that new giant mech hunting game, so is a bunch of other titles from other studios.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 11, 2018 14:11:42 GMT
And more and more I am wishing Anthem to fail miserably, perhaps the message will be received loud and clear at that point and Bioware can go back to make single player narrative and character driven experiences...unless EA just shoots them in the back of the head like they did with other studios.
Oh well, if that happens we still have CDPR.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 11, 2018 1:50:41 GMT
Bioware killed the bsn because it was toxic What does that tell you?? That you're full of hyperbole? Uhm..how? They pretty much spelled it out.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 11, 2018 1:12:09 GMT
You know what is disheartening?
Dying light 2 is shaping out to be an open world game with real consequences to your choices that affect the world and the gameplay in an appreciable way with drop in drop out co OP like the first game did....and a full single player story driven campaign with loot and whatnot.
Aaaaand bioware is giving us anthem
Great
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 11, 2018 1:06:41 GMT
Bioware killed the bsn because it was toxic
What does that tell you??
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 10, 2018 19:11:52 GMT
So, how many "I told you so" post were here already since E3 reveal? I'd like to gloat a bit too So, true solo part (designed that way) is only prologue and hub visits. No companions, simplified dialog system, and if you are indeed play in group, the leader makes all the choices (unlike SWTOR with random roll). Ah, and no Anthem-2 in plans since Anthen is going to be "game as service" for the next many years. Everything as it was foretold. Wish all the luck with the game to Destiny fans switching over! But dont you know? People saying I told you do either 1: don't have all the facts 2: are panicking too early 3: should get on with the times 4: should not expect Bioware to stick to the old games concepts LoL the damage control is strong here
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 10, 2018 19:08:36 GMT
Technically speaking, you can play through Anthem’s story missions solo – but you probably shouldn’t. “For the critical path … if you do want to play by yourself, you can,” Gamble says. “We’re not limiting that artificially. But the game itself is built for you and a bunch of friends – because your friends are your companions in this case. That’s the whole point.” .... Warner says.
Yeah,.... technically.....
From gameInformer article.
Seems like Bio does not want you to play solo.... a strong hint.
Ok this pisses me off "your friends are your companions " because your friends are gonna be "in character" all the time and not ruin the immersion ever right? WTF Bioware!?!?!? I gotta wonder fo they really believe th as t people online act like their lil actors that run through scripted sequences pretending to be players?
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 10, 2018 12:44:32 GMT
[ 1: not just. Squadmates were external perspectives, different poles of moral compass both inside and outside the mission. Would bounce ideas and offer their viewpoints....and banter and have personal stakes in the missions. This is not it. Virtually everything you have described can be provided by hub characters. This really does sound more like you projecting your worst fears onto their words. What you REALLY think isn’t what Bioware said. I disagree that it was just different wording. What you need to understand is that I am questioning, what I’m asking is “show me more story please”. I was asking the same question yesterday. I refuse to panic just because my questions haven’t been answered yet. I also enjoy a wide variety of games, so I’m not particularly bothered that Anthem may not check every box of what other people consider a Bioware game. I know this won’t be full “traditional” Bioware storytelling. I want to see if it’s still something I’ll enjoy and if they can do something interesting with it. That’s not cutting Bioware slack, that’s being open minded to a different approach. If it doesn’t appeal to you that’s fine, but the test for whether it’s a good game, for me, isn’t about how closely it adheres to the Mass Effect Dragon Age template. I hope it does in certain respects, but much remains to be seen. and that is NOT what people are asking. People are asking if this is going to be a bioware game as we come to know them. We were told by Casey it was going to be and so far I am seeing only a bunch of vague BS. As I said, the vaguer a company gets about issues that may very well case a negative backlash the more one should start to get worried. You can refuse to panic until you get answers but chances are you will only get them upon release. Anthem is basically ES's answer to Destiny because they wanted a piece of the loot shooter pie that they happen to have commissioned to Bioware likely cannibalizing their work in progress game that started pre production in 2012 and NOT a Bioware game proper. I am not projecting my worst fears on what they are saying and comparing their verbiage with Bungie (frightening similar btw) and seeing what Bungie ended up delivering after being just as vague and cagey. I asked before, to all saying "wait and see" what if E3 comes and our questions remain unanswered? Can we start worrying then if we keep getting the same " play with friends" BS and no focus on solo play Apparently the answer is "we are just gonna give Bioware more time". And apparently the deadline for this is...uhm...going gold? Bah
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 10, 2018 3:03:43 GMT
So once again I ask you, do you think this feel distinctly bioware in a solo campaign that is on par with what we have come to expect A little hard to determine, we're still 8 months from launch. BioWare rarely releases a proper story trailer until 4 months to launch. I have no reason to believe that the story won't feel BioWare because it's made by Bioware but it's too early to judge for sure. on a 3 year cycle? Yeah sure. But on the 5 year cycles, the starters of new ips like this one? Yeah no they always start with the story to my memory. Look at ME1 and DAO and their E3 debut. And sure, I could even excuse the lack of a story trailer but the lack of any detail about how the story is delivered? What kinda choices we can make and how they ACTUALLY affect the game and my playthrough? (There are more details we are missing but those are the one that come to mind first) nope. The game might be made by Bioware but I learned long ago that the more a studio is reluctant to reveal certain things or talk about them and the more they go out of their way to avoid the subject the more one should be worried that this is being done because the answer may very well alienate/piss off the fanbase. Also, what more info do you need? We know that the only element of "solo" is the hub, everything else is coop which also means no solo elements during the mission. No conversations with adversaries (say like dialogue with Saren, sovereign or whoever) no character development or personalized world building/story branching during missions, no squad mate driven mission...oh yeah wait No squadmates, no romances.... What exactly do you need MORE to say that it does not feel very much Bioware???
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 10, 2018 2:23:14 GMT
If you only consider 'distinctive BioWare' as the solo elements, this one feels less BioWare. I think BioWare's distinctiveness is broader than that. when Casey Hudson said "this will feel distinctly Bioware" he was talking about the solo aspect. So once again I ask you, do you think this feel distinctly bioware in a solo campaign that is on par with what we have come to expect from bioware games like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Jade empire, Kotor and Baldur's Gate? This is what people are worried about not the goddamn mp
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 10, 2018 2:04:02 GMT
ok, how does that feel very bioware in a solo story driven and character driven campaign point of view? Well, I'm reflecting on what's characteristically BioWare's multiplayer style, as this is a multiplayer led game. Sure there are also facets that are characteristic of BioWare's single player games, which Anthem isn't (though it allows the multiplayer to be soloed). We may be at cross-purposes here... answer the question
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jun 10, 2018 1:11:28 GMT
If, you know, like MP and some of us don't so... I do as did many. It was the most successful element of Mass Effect 3, critically and financially. You don't have to like every game a company makes, this game is a shared game. I didn't like multiplayer until MEMP opened my eyes. Perhaps it's time to embrace the change.
The same approach has been used in the last 3 multiplayers from BioWare. Strong focus on co-op not PVP. Contextual world setting, though Anthem will ramp up the story element. Combat not a million miles from Andromeda's combat system. ok, how does that feel very bioware in a solo story driven and character driven campaign point of view?
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