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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 20:47:54 GMT
It really scares me in DA aspect. I mean what if something similar happens to DA and EA decides to cut the funds from DA team? MET was a story concluded and since I'm not too much invested in MEA since it was just one game that's not much of a big deal for me, but Dragon Age? I feel like we are just getting started on that part and I don't wish it to die out
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Post by snook on May 10, 2017 20:52:46 GMT
On the flip side, this pretty much makes Dragon Age BioWare's 'flagship,' presumably. If I'm being naively optimistic, DA4 would pretty much end up being the last hope and they'd pour every fiber of their being into it.
If DA4 flops though, then, in the words of Varric...well...shit.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 20:57:55 GMT
On the flip side, this pretty much makes Dragon Age BioWare's 'flagship,' presumably. If I'm being naively optimistic, DA4 would pretty much end up being the last hope and they'd pour every fiber of their being into it. If DA4 flops though, then, in the words of Varric...well...shit. But what if they try to make the new IP their flagship. Imagine the horror
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Post by snook on May 10, 2017 21:00:34 GMT
...I hadn't considered that.
That'd just be downright insulting, lol.
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Post by thats1evildude on May 10, 2017 21:30:10 GMT
It really scares me in DA aspect. I mean what if something similar happens to DA and EA decides to cut the funds from DA team? I would take this as good news. Less emphasis on ME means they're not going to shelve DA4 in favour of Mass Effect Andromeda 2.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 21:42:10 GMT
It really scares me in DA aspect. I mean what if something similar happens to DA and EA decides to cut the funds from DA team? I would take this as good news. Less emphasis on ME means they're not going to shelve DA4 in favour of Mass Effect Andromeda 2. But they can still shelve DA4 in favor of the new IP. Because apperentally MP games are what people are into these days.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on May 11, 2017 2:02:19 GMT
I'm not surprised MEA (it's not ME to me) has been put to sleep. If they want to continue with it, they need to drop it for several years and put together a better team of writers (who respect the lore of MET) and an inspired project leader for the next one; if they're going to persist with the Andromeda thread.
As for DA, I hope EA will consider that the original team for DAI is still there. They are experienced and they have already put together the framework of the story they intend to go with when they made DAI so it makes no sense to put DA on ice. As@snook said, DA is more or less Bioware's flagship now. I hope EA will support the DA team and give them the time to do a good game.
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Post by azarhal on May 11, 2017 2:44:19 GMT
The way I interpret the recent tweets (about DA) is that real production of DA4 started after MEA was released once they got some of their devs back. Pre-production doesn't last 2 years, so DA was on hiatus for a while as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by dgcatanisiri on May 11, 2017 3:55:24 GMT
The way I interpret the recent tweets (about DA) is that real production of DA4 started after MEA was released once they got some of their devs back. Pre-production doesn't last 2 years, so DA was on hiatus for a while as far as I'm concerned. This - I legit feel that this 'hiatus' was always on the table, since after Inquisition several DA writers moved over to Andromeda (Sheryl Chee and Lukas Kristjanson, I know for sure). I feel like this Mass Effect hiatus was always the intention, given that they have the new IP and DA4 already on the table. Going forward with a new Mass Effect would mean their third game in active development. BioWare's ambitious, but I'm pretty sure they have a better grasp of their limitations than to think they can juggle three games in active development at once.
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Post by thats1evildude on May 11, 2017 4:22:26 GMT
As I've said elsewhere, Dragon Age is kind of the red-headed stepchild of the Bioware family, regardless of its successes. I think if Andromeda had done very well, we might never have seen another Dragon Age game again, as the priority would be an MEA sequel and this new IP.
But now ME has been put on the backburner. So it remains to be seen: pursue the new IP + a new DA game, or put all of Bioware's eggs in one basket and hope like hell the new IP will succeed? Given that there is a fairly dedicated DA fanbase, I'm willing to bet on the former.
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Post by azarhal on May 11, 2017 11:29:59 GMT
The way I interpret the recent tweets (about DA) is that real production of DA4 started after MEA was released once they got some of their devs back. Pre-production doesn't last 2 years, so DA was on hiatus for a while as far as I'm concerned. This - I legit feel that this 'hiatus' was always on the table, since after Inquisition several DA writers moved over to Andromeda (Sheryl Chee and Lukas Kristjanson, I know for sure). I feel like this Mass Effect hiatus was always the intention, given that they have the new IP and DA4 already on the table. Going forward with a new Mass Effect would mean their third game in active development. BioWare's ambitious, but I'm pretty sure they have a better grasp of their limitations than to think they can juggle three games in active development at once. I believe that all the writers but Patrick Weekes were moved to other projects, some right after DAI released, the others after Trespasser. Austin started work on a new project last summer going by Drew Karpyshyn (he pretty much said it's wasn't SWTOR or Dylan related) and they still have SWTOR too. They don't have the manpower for all that now, which actually explain why the DA team is hiring.
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Post by eriador117 on May 12, 2017 13:18:56 GMT
I hope they still make more DA, it's my favourite series. As for the new IP, I am not really interested in multiplayer. Our internet connection is so slow it's laughable so I've never done them. And as for charging you more to play MP, no, just no. I want single player. For me Dragon Age is like an interactive book, and I don't tend to have lots of people reading my book at the same time.
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Post by Zemgus on May 12, 2017 13:36:10 GMT
Yes, my only concern is that I hope this has no negative impact on DA4. I also hope they don't repeat MEA's mistakes but instead follow their own vision and keep it true to DAO and DAI, the previous games of the franchise.
For me honestly DAI is my favorite game and if DA4 is anything like it, then I will be very happy. There are always some things to improve on like bigger cities and more meaningful sidequests, but overall DAI was damn good in so many ways, that I hope the next one can live up to it.
But really speculation right now is kind of pointless. What happens, happens and we'll just have to wait and see.
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Post by Kei on May 12, 2017 15:00:11 GMT
On the flip side, this pretty much makes Dragon Age BioWare's 'flagship,' presumably. If I'm being naively optimistic, DA4 would pretty much end up being the last hope and they'd pour every fiber of their being into it. If DA4 flops though, then, in the words of Varric...well...shit. How so? BioWare is busy Also with Secret IP. DA probably has already a worse reputation than Mass effect
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Post by Lazarillo on May 12, 2017 15:02:19 GMT
MET was a story concluded and since I'm not too much invested in MEA since it was just one game that's not much of a big deal for me, but Dragon Age? I feel like we are just getting started on that part and I don't wish it to die out See, I see it the opposite way. I feel like they might have learned a "bad" lesson from Inquisition. Writing a game with the expectation of a sequel weakens the story of that game. Writing a story that doesn't stand on its own and basically does nothing but hype a sequel that may or may not be happening in the next six years makes the initial game weaker, and makes the follow-up less interesting, too (frankly, it took me only a month or two to be bored with the plot threads from Trespasser's ending). I hope the writing staff for DA4 seriously considers that and goes back to mostly-self contained tales.
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Post by theblackadder13 on May 12, 2017 17:30:55 GMT
Andromeda flopped that badly? Shit. So this means no DLC or anything? What was so bad about it? (I've never played Mass Effect.) Was this a directive straight from the EA higher ups?
At any rate, I hope it's good news for Dragon Age.
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Post by Heimdall on May 12, 2017 17:59:38 GMT
Andromeda flopped that badly? Shit. So this means no DLC or anything? What was so bad about it? (I've never played Mass Effect.) Was this a directive straight from the EA higher ups? At any rate, I hope it's good news for Dragon Age. We don't really know MEA did that badly, though I imagine it did worse than EA's executives hoped it would, we just know Bioware isn't going to be making a new one anytime soon. But in practice this isn't so much different from the way Dragon Age got put on hold for awhile, so I wouldn't rule out a Mass Effect game down the line. Whether it would be Mass Effect Andromeda 2 or a different angle on continuing the franchise remains to be seen.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2017 10:05:27 GMT
It really scares me in DA aspect. I mean what if something similar happens to DA and EA decides to cut the funds from DA team? MET was a story concluded and since I'm not too much invested in MEA since it was just one game that's not much of a big deal for me, but Dragon Age? I feel like we are just getting started on that part and I don't wish it to die out Oh EA will try. I don't really know if ANYTHING can save them anymore by this point though. I hope DA:4 is good, but idk by this point...
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Post by danaxe on May 13, 2017 10:53:22 GMT
CHill guys. If you read the article where this fake news stuff started - the kotaku one - you will see this is all just nonsense. No shred of truth to what gaming outlets are claiming.
What's happening to the team from MEA is exactly what happened with the team of DAI, only a skeletal crew working on DLC and support, rest moved on to other projects. There's DA4 and Dylan project to come, so do you really expected they would be starting production of MEA2 right away? Did they start DA4 production right away? Of course not. Even now, DA4 development team is non-official, and probably just writers at this point, and only after Dylan is almost ready to launch will DA4 production kick in full force. Standard procedure I'd say. But Kotaku made mountains out of moehills and everybody bought it at face value.
It's all fine. EA is happy with MEA performance, which means there is more to come, and EA is even happier with DAI performance, so dont worry. Business still going as usual. Dont believe the fake new.
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Post by ShadowAngel on May 13, 2017 13:41:39 GMT
Inquisition did to well for me to be worried. It also has the more experienced studio, is riding off inquisitions momentum of various GoTY awards, best selling bioware title on console, etc etc. i still can't believe mass effect is shelved due to poor reception and doing bad (I actually can "believe" it) until there's concrete info. Kotaku is the only source on that and everything is referencing that one and only source, I need more sources to take it seriously. I'd wager they're simply moving Montreal around to speed up production in the other games and then they'll be moved back once they want to start another ME game.
I don't see how ME being shelved would hurt DA. As I said, both have their own studios for it, DA getting the more experienced one that has momentum going for them from the previous game doing very well. DA also has the FB3 pretty much nailed down = less time working on it and more on the actual game itself, plus the inquisition delivered a good story if you ask me and the tresspasser really setup the next game perfectly (and I think the next DA game should break the trend of not reusing a protagonist, my inquisitor must come back).
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Post by our_lady_of_darkness on May 13, 2017 14:02:13 GMT
Inquisition did to well for me to be worried. It also has the more experienced studio, is riding off inquisitions momentum of various GoTY awards, best selling bioware title on console, etc etc. i still can't believe mass effect is shelved due to poor reception and doing bad (I actually can "believe" it) until there's concrete info. Kotaku is the only source on that and everything is referencing that one and only source, I need more sources to take it seriously. I'd wager they're simply moving Montreal around to speed up production in the other games and then they'll be moved back once they want to start another ME game. I don't see how ME being shelved would hurt DA. As I said, both have their own studios for it, DA getting the more experienced one that has momentum going for them from the previous game doing very well. DA also has the FB3 pretty much nailed down = less time working on it and more on the actual game itself, plus the inquisition delivered a good story if you ask me and the tresspasser really setup the next game perfectly (and I think the next DA game should break the trend of not reusing a protagonist, my inquisitor must come back). Nicely put. If anything, ME's temporary shelving allows for the DA team to receive more resources, more people to work with, etc. since Bioware's focus in the foreseeable future will be on DA and Dylan only. Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if MA tried to win back its audience by releasing a topnotch DLC, a game changer such as Lair of the Shadowbroker and Trespasser.
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