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Post by Kenny Bania on May 15, 2017 6:50:59 GMT
 When I try to use backlash this is mostly what happens to me. Even though my aegis is up I just get shot and die. Or even if my aegis takes damage and breaks, I will die immediately after it breaks thanks to the stagger. That looks like you've only got 1 point in it. |
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Post by f3rociouspanda on May 15, 2017 8:36:21 GMT
When I try to use backlash this is mostly what happens to me. Even though my aegis is up I just get shot and die. Or even if my aegis takes damage and breaks, I will die immediately after it breaks thanks to the stagger. That looks like you've only got 1 point in it. More ranks only increase the health of the aegis. Mine wasn't sponging damage, I was just getting shot right through it. |
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Post by Pounce de León on May 15, 2017 8:43:18 GMT
That looks like you've only got 1 point in it. More ranks only increase the health of the aegis. Mine wasn't sponging damage, I was just getting shot right through it. Never happens to me. Off-host problem? |
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Post by akots on May 15, 2017 8:53:25 GMT
When I try to use backlash this is mostly what happens to me. Even though my aegis is up I just get shot and die. Or even if my aegis takes damage and breaks, I will die immediately after it breaks thanks to the stagger. IMHO, looks like you are being shot in the back. It is not 360 degrees, don't really know what's the angle, it is lag-dependent sometimes. Also, it helps to stand still at least for evo 5B reflection. |
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Post by Kenny Bania on May 15, 2017 9:03:38 GMT
That looks like you've only got 1 point in it. More ranks only increase the health of the aegis. Mine wasn't sponging damage, I was just getting shot right through it. Not quite sire what's going on there tbh. |
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Post by Pounce de León on May 15, 2017 9:13:24 GMT
Anyone know if the serker flak is reflected and doing damage to enemy by backlash? I haven't tried since last patch and usually I don't notice with all the shrapnel. I feel it just blocks and shields from the effect if centered properly.
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Post by Pounce de León on May 15, 2017 9:14:43 GMT
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Post by f3rociouspanda on May 15, 2017 9:16:21 GMT
When I try to use backlash this is mostly what happens to me. Even though my aegis is up I just get shot and die. Or even if my aegis takes damage and breaks, I will die immediately after it breaks thanks to the stagger. IMHO, looks like you are being shot in the back. It is not 360 degrees, don't really know what's the angle, it is lag-dependent sometimes. Also, it helps to stand still at least for evo 5B reflection. Look at the damage arrow indicators, it's coming from straight ahead. It's probably just an off host thing. But I mostly play off host so that makes the power kind of suck for me |
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Post by Pounce de León on May 15, 2017 9:19:58 GMT
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Post by CriticalFailure on May 15, 2017 10:55:05 GMT
My current build is link 4B,5B in backlash, 4B,5A in throw, 4B,5A in energy drain, 4B,5B in passives, and some fitness up to 4A but really, not much fitness needed, I think it is quite hard to die with her even paying minimal attention. That's an interesting approach; at level 20 you can have either: - Two skills at 6, two at 5 and one at 4. - A skill at 6 and the rest at 5. Not sure which one I'd prefer, what I'd max (Throw, perhaps), or if the Tech Armour evolutions make a difference. What equiipment do people use on her (other than Juggernaut for those who are into melee)? I'm guessing either + biotic or tech damage? |
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Post by KLGChaos on May 15, 2017 11:17:23 GMT
So what can Aegis reflect? I've seen it reflect bullets, flak cannon shots, incinerate, but flamethrower and overload seem to go right through it.
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Post by Arilou on May 15, 2017 12:18:17 GMT
Never happens to me. Off-host problem? Nope happens on-host too. |
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Post by Arilou on May 15, 2017 12:35:45 GMT
16666 Ushior INSANE Set to (prime and detonate) on BOTH (energy drain and throw). She's a carry and a tank, she's annihilates shields with a hitscan power that stuns just the perfect way (like with overload in ME3) to follow with an easy headshot with the Ushior. She has awesome aoe damage with tech explosions now. EDIT: now experimenting with a more balanced build as many L6 evos are not needed with her. Hell, the defensive passive tree is fine at evo 4. What the AS has going for her are the recharge speed and combo damage passive, which are obviously great for spamming combos. Other than that Human Sentinel is still way superior, because Barricade can be a god-tier AoE primer as well and is also a great power in its own right as opposed to the buggy and unreliable mess that is Backlash. |
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Post by Kenny Bania on May 15, 2017 12:39:49 GMT
16666 Ushior INSANE Set to (prime and detonate) on BOTH (energy drain and throw). She's a carry and a tank, she's annihilates shields with a hitscan power that stuns just the perfect way (like with overload in ME3) to follow with an easy headshot with the Ushior. She has awesome aoe damage with tech explosions now. EDIT: now experimenting with a more balanced build as many L6 evos are not needed with her. Hell, the defensive passive tree is fine at evo 4. What the AS has going for her are the recharge speed and combo damage passive, which are obviously great for spamming combos. Other than that Human Sentinel is still way superior, because Barricade can be a god-tier AoE primer as well and is also a great power in its own right as opposed to the buggy and unreliable mess that is Backlash. The HSent isn't "way superior". |
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Post by Arilou on May 15, 2017 12:55:21 GMT
The HSent isn't "way superior". Yea you're right, "way superior" is probably hyperbole. They are on a similar level, but HSent is still clearly better. |
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Post by Kenny Bania on May 15, 2017 13:08:25 GMT
The HSent isn't "way superior". Yea you're right, "way superior" is probably hyperbole. They are on a similar level, but HSent is still clearly better. I don't know about "clearly" either. I'll settle for "it's a matter of preference" though. |
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Post by Arilou on May 15, 2017 13:29:46 GMT
I don't know about "clearly" either. I'll settle for "it's a matter of preference" though. Idk, if you like playing the Salarian Architect specced for VI and Barricade that's also matter of preference. Doesn't change the fact that any mildy competent infiltrator will probably vastly outperform you. I feel the same is the case for Asari / Human Sentinel, although the difference is not as glaring. The thing about HSents is they have tech combos for days too, a genuinely good defensive power and are one the best weapons platforms in the game as well. |
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Post by Kenny Bania on May 15, 2017 13:55:18 GMT
I don't know about "clearly" either. I'll settle for "it's a matter of preference" though. Idk, if you like playing the Salarian Architect specced for VI and Barricade that's also matter of preference. Doesn't change the fact that any mildy competent infiltrator will probably vastly outperform you. I feel the same is the case for Asari / Human Sentinel, although the difference is not as glaring. The thing about HSents is they have tech combos for days too, a genuinely good defensive power and are one the best weapons platforms in the game as well. "Genuinely good" defensive power. You say that like Backlash isn't one. Not knowing how to get the best from it doesn't mean it isn't "genuinely good". |
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Post by Necrotya on May 15, 2017 14:03:12 GMT
I love "playing" with her  56654 and she's a monster. Lookig good too Kappa |
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Post by varicite on May 15, 2017 14:08:03 GMT
IMHO, looks like you are being shot in the back. It is not 360 degrees, don't really know what's the angle, it is lag-dependent sometimes. Also, it helps to stand still at least for evo 5B reflection. Look at the damage arrow indicators, it's coming from straight ahead. It's probably just an off host thing. But I mostly play off host so that makes the power kind of suck for me I've had this happen as well, it's a known issue with the ability. I read that on the official forum, so I think it's something they're working on. |
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Post by varicite on May 15, 2017 14:10:47 GMT
Yea you're right, "way superior" is probably hyperbole. They are on a similar level, but HSent is still clearly better. I don't know about "clearly" either. I'll settle for "it's a matter of preference" though. I prefer to stay mobile, so I like the asari better. Backlash doesn't require me to use ammo, and the cd is super short on the asari sentinel. Barricade has more placement issues since the patch as well. |
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Post by Arilou on May 15, 2017 14:26:54 GMT
"Genuinely good" defensive power. You say that like Backlash isn't one. Not knowing how to get the best from it doesn't mean it isn't "genuinely good". Well I have completed the challenges for both Barricade and Backlash, so at least I have quite some experience on how they work. Backlash is good on paper, but suffers from a ton of issues: * It is buggy and sometimes flat out doesn't work. * Reflecting damage still counts a being hit and prevents regeneration. * It does nothing against really dangerous stuff like missile barrage and destroyer cannon. * Reflecting is unreliable because sometimes enemies derp around and don't shoot you, wasting your time. * You can't reload with shield up, which makes any non-Remant gun annoying as hell to use. It's still sort of alright for the damage buffs it provides, but guess what? Barricade has that too and none of the issues above. Not to mention that it primes and crowd controls. |
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Post by Kenny Bania on May 15, 2017 14:28:36 GMT
I don't know about "clearly" either. I'll settle for "it's a matter of preference" though. . Backlash doesn't require me to use ammo, and the cd is super short on the asari sentinel. Barricade has more placement issues since the patch as well. Same here. I don't hang around an area too long for Barricade to be useful to me. Not to mention the "Blocked" issues when attempting to set it up in some areas with tons of room. |
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Post by Pounce de León on May 15, 2017 14:33:20 GMT
Backlash can be used while jumping. You cannot, however, use backlash AND revive. This removed her basically from the medic roster.
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Post by Kenny Bania on May 15, 2017 14:35:12 GMT
"Genuinely good" defensive power. You say that like Backlash isn't one. Not knowing how to get the best from it doesn't mean it isn't "genuinely good". Well I have completed the challenges for both Barricade and Backlash, so at least I have quite some experience on how they work. Backlash is good on paper, but suffers from a ton of issues: * It is bugyy and sometimes flat out doesn't work. - Never been a problem for me* Reflecting damage still counts a being hit and prevents regeneration. - Don't need it. I'll have energy drain coming off cooldowm* It does nothing against really dangerous stuff like missile barrage and destroyer cannon. - If I get caught by those, that's my fault. Rarely ever happens* Reflecting is unreliable because sometimes enemies derp around and don't shoot you, wasting your time. - Again, never an issue. I've posted gifs proving it, and it kills them quicker than Barricade* You can't reload with shield up, which makes any non-Remant gun annoying as hell to use. - I'll be ready with an Energy drain + throw combo after releasing it, and reload afterwards when stuff is stunned.It's still sort of alright for the damage buffs it provides, but guess what? Barricade has that too and none of the issues above. Not to mention that it primes and crowd controls. Responses in quote. I'll re-iterate. It's a matter of preference. You seem to prefer Barricade. That's cool. I've got no beef with that. You on the other hand can't fathom someone else preferring Backlash. |
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