All right, this really pisses me off.

Why they chose not to allow players to save during those missions is incomprehensible to me.

Whether they intend to change it in a patch remains to be seen.

I agree that manual saves should be made available. This seems like an issue about which they'd dig in their heels, calling it a creative choice that they don't want to change.

geezer117, was this a speed run? I've never hit that base before level 20, I'd estimate. It's not relevant to your complaint. I'm just curious.

Agreed. Why they didn't allow for manual saves is beyond me.

To compensate for game stupidity.  I had to cheat to get the Hang Time one because it's glitched on the PC.

I guess. Insanity is supposed to hard, though. I've never wanted to cheat to make Insanity less difficult. If it's hard, it's working as intended. I agree that the save system sucks; but a person can just turn down the difficulty, or improve their tactics during the mission in question.

I recall experiencing two frustrating deaths during my first PT in the Eos Kett Base. I was not pleased to be essentially booted back to the beginning, and have enemies respawn. By the third attempt I had learned how to speed through that base like a hurricane of death, though. It seems so easy, now.

Hang Time is unique, in that it's apparently impossible on PC.

The part that gets me is some of the save slots drop you into enemy spawn points.

Havarl is the worst for it but Kadara is really bad too.


Just one of many decusions that leaves me wondering what they were thinking. That and the powerwheel and warp.

Three things I really enjoyed about ME combat that are gone.

Well cheating is up to each individual. It's useful in some cases, not so much in others. Just offering an alternative

I'm really silly, this made me laugh loudly

If you've done everything on Eos etcetera then go to Havarl first and do everything there you should be at least at level 10 or 11 before heading to Voeld, so you should be able to craft a Research level 3 weapon of your choice (assuming you're not short on minerals) which can make that mission easier. Anyway if you're talking about the Taking out the Heart mission you don't have to do it first you can do some of the filler missions to build up some points before doing that particular mission.

As for the inability to manual save and those annoying auto save points, they're a pain in the ass.

One of Biowares most stupid design decision ever.

I believe the clock starts without warning. After I saved the uncle from the Kett labor camp, he asked me to deliver something to Techix. There I was informed that it was a map of the Kett command center, and oh by the way, the codes were about to change. The center had to be attacked immediately. So I did.

My accidental mistake was saving the uncle at the beginning of Voeld, so I was stuck with a really low level build and weapons. Better strategy would be to save the uncle much later, when everything was stronger. But who knew?

In my first playthrough, I did not immediately attack the command center, but waited a long time as I leveled up. Then later, no matter what I did, I couldn't find a way into the cave. So I assume the mission timed out.

Wow. I had no idea there was a timer on the mission to begin or it'd lock. I'm pretty sure on my first play through I did most of Voeld before starting it.

As for your predicament, I'd drop the difficulty, OP. It's a sucky solution but it's the only one I can think of unless you restart the Angara mission and then don't pick up the labor camp mission too soon.