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Post by lennybusker on May 15, 2017 23:35:31 GMT
When attacking multiple enemies with the hammer on Krogan Gladiator, sometimes one of the enemies will get hit multiple times. Might actually be every time, to be honest. Many of the tester group have verified this by using a combat logger which shows the memory addresses of every enemy being hit. After testing some more we realized that if you force the game to run at lower framerates, this bug disappears and it never pops back up. Back at 60 FPS or higher though, and it's consistently there - almost every time you smack multiple enemies, you get some free hits. See links below for video demonstrations, including the combat log. gfycat.com/ScientificHarmlessEuropeanpolecatTested with framerate totally unlocked, so about 150 FPS (on a 60 Hz display). Definitely only 3 enemies in range of the hammer. You can see address 9A9B6620, corresponding to one of the Adhis, gets hit twice. VSync was off. gfycat.com/ZanyReasonableKoupreyTested with VSync on, so 60 FPS. Two Adhis and two Raiders in range. Adhi at address 84DE7EA0 gets hit twice. gfycat.com/AdmirableTameAndalusianhorse?speed=0.5Tested with VSync on and display refresh turned down to 30 Hz, so 30 FPS. Something wrong with my capture here, the framerate of the video is a little wonky heh. Make sure the gfy speed is turned down so you can see everything. The delayed hit on the Adhi was not from the hammer, it was an "out of map" death caused by him going through the map or something. Killfeed says Pull and not Hammer. That's an unrelated issue. I tested this again and again and again and never once got free melee hits while I was running at 30 FPS. Testers: peddroelm , srkm00b , huntedhunt , myself
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Post by Zyurat on May 15, 2017 23:37:08 GMT
Could that be related that some times I use two powers (one to prime and the other to detonate) and I get three detonations instead of one? (seems like only one does damage though)
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Post by lennybusker on May 16, 2017 0:07:54 GMT
Could that be related that some times I use two powers (one to prime and the other to detonate) and I get three detonations instead of one? (seems like only one does damage though) Could be! What difficulty is your single player save on?
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Post by shinobiwan on May 16, 2017 2:04:24 GMT
Could that be related that some times I use two powers (one to prime and the other to detonate) and I get three detonations instead of one? (seems like only one does damage though) Could be! What difficulty is your single player save on? Rofl, I can see it now. If your active SP save is the adept profile, you get biotic echoes. How you guys keep finding correlations with these random ass variables is beyond me. Mad props.
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Post by Terminator Force on May 16, 2017 3:40:07 GMT
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Post by Schachmatt123 on May 16, 2017 4:07:17 GMT
I guess it depends on the hosts framerate, so playing @60+ fps as a client doesn't trigger the bug as long as the host runs on a lower framerate?
Also: Trollollollollollollooooooooooooooooooooooool!
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Post by TormDK on May 16, 2017 6:40:36 GMT
Likely an server Hz issue, do we know how fast the client sends and recieves information? In the Battlefield series, this was a problem that took DICE quite awhile to fix by releasing higher update refresh server settings.
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Post by xaijin on May 16, 2017 6:43:29 GMT
DICE didn't fix shit.
DICE LA did.
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Post by EatYourOatmeal on May 16, 2017 7:12:47 GMT
Reminds me of Dark Souls 2 where if you play on PC aka 60fps weapons would degrade faster. Guess it might be something like that? Would've been really hilarious if the higher your fps the more hits you get on mooks. Ah well
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Post by Pounce de León on May 16, 2017 8:08:37 GMT
Could be! What difficulty is your single player save on? Rofl, I can see it now. If your active SP save is the adept profile, you get biotic echoes. How you guys keep finding correlations with these random ass variables is beyond me. Mad props. Really?
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Post by christsuperstar on May 16, 2017 9:10:42 GMT
Another exemplary chuckle, brought to you by BioWare - no charge. It's P2W on a whole new scale (or adjustsettings2W).
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Post by TormDK on May 16, 2017 9:47:12 GMT
DICE didn't fix shit. DICE LA did. Same same, but different - but still same.
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on May 16, 2017 11:41:56 GMT
Question: can I get even more hits with 140 fps on 144hz gsync monitor?
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Post by lennybusker on May 16, 2017 14:43:54 GMT
Question: can I get even more hits with 140 fps on 144hz gsync monitor? Nah, I ran up too 144, also ran up as high as I could without vsync (render scaling down to minimum so it looked like the original Wolfenstein, lol) and was over 200 fps, no extra hits. It's just the breakpoint over 60, I think.
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Post by gethadept on May 16, 2017 15:09:08 GMT
Let me just say I cheer you guys for doing the real job instead of BW.
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