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Post by Warrior DM on May 16, 2017 20:55:20 GMT
Which cameos would you like to see, and which characters do you think would make the most sense in the setting? There are a few obvious characters like Solas that will show up, but I think we'll be seeing even more elves (as well as mages) of the series reappear in Tevinter.
Just imagine Zevran, Merill, Fenris and Sera in the same room.
Dorian is a Magister, and will most likely be the bridge between Tevinter and the Inquisition. Maybe Anders (assuming he's alive of course) made his way to Tevinter after being rejected by the rebel mages.
Which characters would you like to see the most in the next Dragon Age?
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Post by thats1evildude on May 16, 2017 21:11:04 GMT
Just imagine Zevran, Merill, Fenris and Sera in the same room. That'd be interesting, for sure. Asides from the obvious candidate — Solas — I hope to see Calpernia again.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 21:16:31 GMT
Are we talking about cameos or playing big parts in the game ?
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Post by Warrior DM on May 16, 2017 21:27:34 GMT
Are we talking about cameos or playing big parts in the game ? Let's say both, for the sake of discussion. Just imagine Zevran, Merill, Fenris and Sera in the same room. That'd be interesting, for sure. Asides from the obvious candidate — Solas — I hope to see Calpernia again. I get the feeling that those four would not get along well, for a variety of reasons. Well maybe Zevran and Sera would, since they're both free spirited rogues. I should really get to know more about Calpernia. (I always sided with the mages.)
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 21:49:34 GMT
I can't help but be put off by any character who could possibly be dead, as if they were in the next game they wouldn't really be significant. However I'd love Krem, Bull, Fenris, Alistair, Loghain and Shale to turn up somewhere. For those who are always alive and could be a proper part of the story I'd love love love to see Aveline again, for the Divine to play a role and for it to differ depending on who it is, and of course my favourite Varric but I seriously doubt he'd be in 3 games. I'm assuming Dorian and Solas are gonna be there and I'm happy about that. I'd love Cass too. It'd also be pretty awesome for the ruler of Ferelden and King of Orzammar to play a role but I'm not holding my breath on that one.
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Post by thats1evildude on May 16, 2017 22:15:57 GMT
Krem and Iron Bull can be dead.
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Post by Catilina on May 16, 2017 23:17:51 GMT
Krem and Iron Bull can be dead. In fact, so many of the mentioned characters can be dead. Almost all. _____ But I would like to see Feynriel. For example.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on May 16, 2017 23:58:08 GMT
I agree that Dorian and Solas will almost certainly be in it, probably as adviser and villain respectively, which is all to the good. I'd also like to see: Major (can't die)- Scout Harding; - As a companion who connects us the the inquisition and Solas plotline
- Calpernia; - Ex slave who believed in the wrong person and was betrayed by them
- Counterpoint to Dorian 'extremist change vs moderate change'
- Maevaris; - One of the founders/leaders of the Lucerni
Minor (can die)- Fenris; - There really isn't a living version of Fenris who I can't see running around Tevinter freeing slave and killing slavers. That's worth an entertaining side quest I think.
- Shale; - She went to Tevinter to try and become a dwarf again, either meeting redwarfed Shale or helping Shale to redwarf
- Velanna; - Through awakening she can decide that they can't recover the past so the Dalish should make new stories, I'd like to see her as the leader of a clan that doesn't join Solas (with an alternate leader for that clan if she's dead, like wrex had).
- A new clan with new traditions made up of city elves, escaped slaves, dalish survivors of the various clan slaughters, abandoned/exiled dalish etc.
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Post by shaqfu on May 17, 2017 0:55:55 GMT
-Sten/Arishok. If we are going to tevinter and the fighting heats up between them I wouldn't be surprised to see him. -Fenryiel(spelling?) The elven dreamer that you can send to tevinter in da2. Would be cool to see if he has learned to control/master his powers.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on May 17, 2017 3:52:18 GMT
Characters I expect to have a major role in the next game: Solas (duh), Dorian, Scout Harding, Maevaris, Calpernia. None of them can be dead, and it would make sense for all of them to have a big part in the narrative.
Cameos I'm hoping for: Fenris, Merrill, Shale, Feynriel, the Stenishok. Most of them can be dead, but that doesn't mean they couldn't show up in an optional side quest, like Zevran and Nathaniel in DA2.
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Post by blighted on May 17, 2017 5:47:28 GMT
Excluding the really obvious and canonically alive characters who will make the most sense to return for DA4 (Dorian, Mae, Solas, Harding, Charter, etc.), here are some characters I'd like them to do more with. Major or minor. Hell, even just a codex entry. Edited the format a little because I missed some of the dependencies in my first rushed post. So, some of the people below may not be alive in everyone's playthrough and will require workaround if ever brought back.
- Sketch, Dragon Age Origins: Leliana’s Song DLC Has also appeared in DA2 and was mentioned in DAI. - Lia and Elren, Dragon Age 2, Magistrate’s Orders quest Choice from quest that shaped fate in Act 3 is already in the Keep. Lia and Elren either fled Kirkwall or Lia joined the City Guards. - Brogan and Jerrik Dace, Dragon Age Origins: Golems of Amgarrak DLC - Ariane and Finn, Dragon Age Origins: Witch Hunt DLC Also mentioned in DAI. - Shale, Dragon Age Origins: The Stone Prisoner This requires no explanation tbh. Shale is the best and was heading to Tevinter after Origins (in some playthroughs) and Asunder didn't talk about this. Also, there weren't any golems in Inquisition and so it would be cool to see at least one. - Amethyne, Dragon Age Origins, Unrest in the Alienage quest Daughter of the late Iona from the Human Noble Origin. Tragically couldn’t help her at all as my Warden 100% would have adopted her if possible. - Orson Haver, Dragon Age Origins: A Tale of Orzammar DLC Most people probably didn’t play this DLC and have no idea who he is. Could be a fun minor character to have return though. - Sigrun, Dragon Age Awakening The epilogues where she opposes the Warden-Commander for siding with the Architect or is left at a non-upgraded Vigil’s Keep are quite ambiguous. Also, I just love the Legion of the Dead - Fenris, Dragon Age 2 Can be killed by Hawke during The Last Straw but has lyrium embedded in his skin (love that I’m explaining this like it’s news to anyone) and given Leliana’s questionable death workaround via lyrium after Origins, a dead Fenris should be an even more logical candidate for this. Plus, people keep talking about him leading a Tevinter slave rebellion and I am 100% here for that. - Merrill, Dragon Age Origins: Dalish Origin, Dragon Age 2 Can be killed by Hawke during The Last Straw. She would have a lot to say about Solas' plan. Plus, I want to hear about her progress on the eluvian in worldstates where it wasn't destroyed. - Velanna, Dragon Age Awakening The Warden-Commander could have killed her in the Wending Wood. She would also have a lot to say about Solas' plan. - Nathaniel Howe, Dragon Age Awakening, Dragon Age 2 (dependent) The Warden-Commander could have executed him rather than release or conscript him. Nathaniel’s fate already Keep option. - Feynriel, Dragon Age 2 Hawke could have killed him in the fade. A lot of us sent him to Tevinter to help with his dreams. Feynriel's fate already Keep option. - Athenril and Meeran, Dragon Age 2 Either one could be dead, or perhaps even both, depending on who you choose to work with and also choices you make in Act 1. I just really liked Athenril even though my Hawke didn't after working with her There are likely dozens more (because I get attached to DA characters, even super minor ones), but these were the ones I remembered.
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Post by thats1evildude on May 17, 2017 6:17:00 GMT
Jerrik Dace gets mentioned in DAI. He can be contacted in a War Table operation as part of the Hard in Hightown 3 questline.
The dwarves at the Winter Palace mention House Dace working to prevent anyone from accessing Amgarrak.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 12:26:03 GMT
I would love for all the Tevinter/Qunari related characters to reappear - Fenris and Dorian, Sten. not really hot on seeing IB again, but to be all-inclusive... From the Adviser cast in Inquisition I would love to see Josephine back, and I think Leliana is unavoidable. If they'd drop Cassandra and Varric, I'll be happy.
I really want all new cast, all new beginnings more, because involvement of the same characters is starting to become tiring.
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Post by fylimar on May 17, 2017 13:01:43 GMT
I think, they will not bring back a character, that could have died in the other DA games, after the criticism, they've got for bringing back Leliana and Anders. So I think, Sten and Iron Bull wont return, maybe Tallis, if they need a Qunari perspective in the story or some new Qunari character. Apart from that I agree with a lot of people here, that I think, Dorian and Scout Harding are a given. Also Solas as antagonist or one of the antagonists). Maevaris would be possible too. I'm not sure about Calpernia. She doesn't even exist in most of my playthroughs. Fenris would be possible too - and would be a valuable ally in Tevinter. Since Feynriel could be a tranquil, I don't think, that we will see much of him, maybe a cameo for those world stats, where he did leave for Tevinter in the end. Apart from that, I don't think, that many characters from the old game return, mayb, if the new game is somehow tied to the inquisition. In that case, one of the former members, Cass, Leliana, Cullen or Josie could make an appearance, but I doubt, that their role would be big. Sadly, Bitchywitch... ehh... Morrigan will probably return ( :smh:) And also sadly, my favorite dwarf probably wont return.
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Post by Catilina on May 17, 2017 13:22:14 GMT
I think, they will not bring back a character, that could have died in the other DA games, after the criticism, they've got for bringing back Leliana and Anders. So I think, Sten and Iron Bull wont return, maybe Tallis, if they need a Qunari perspective in the story or some new Qunari character. Apart from that I agree with a lot of people here, that I think, Dorian and Scout Harding are a given. Also Solas as antagonist or one of the antagonists). Maevaris would be possible too. I'm not sure about Calpernia. She doesn't even exist in most of my playthroughs. Fenris would be possible too - and would be a valuable ally in Tevinter. Since Feynriel could be a tranquil, I don't think, that we will see much of him, maybe a cameo for those world stats, where he did leave for Tevinter in the end. Apart from that, I don't think, that many characters from the old game return, mayb, if the new game is somehow tied to the inquisition. In that case, one of the former members, Cass, Leliana, Cullen or Josie could make an appearance, but I doubt, that their role would be big. Sadly, Bitchywitch... ehh... Morrigan will probably return ( :smh:) And also sadly, my favorite dwarf probably wont return. Feynriel could be Tranquil, but this is no problem, if the death is no problem. The tranquility can be cured, the death not ... yet? Quentin worked on it for years...
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 13:32:24 GMT
If Morrigan returns, and this time we CAN kill her, bring it ON! If not, I will wait for the game to go on sale, as it will poison my PT for sure, and I want some sort of a compensation for the trauma.
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Post by cespar on May 17, 2017 13:32:25 GMT
Here is who I am hoping for, but chances are some of them will not appear: Dorian, he needs to be talking to my Cadash through his magical device (cell phone). Cole, because Tevinter will need his help the most. I want him back, Bioware!! My dear Vivienne. Varric, because I need more of this storyteller. He needs to tell stories of Tevinter. Cassandra, because I love her, duh!
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Post by kumazan on May 17, 2017 17:47:10 GMT
I would love for all the Tevinter/Qunari related characters to reappear - Fenris and Dorian, Sten. not really hot on seeing IB again, but to be all-inclusive... From the Adviser cast in Inquisition I would love to see Josephine back, and I think Leliana is unavoidable. If they'd drop Cassandra and Varric, I'll be happy. I really want all new cast, all new beginnings more, because involvement of the same characters is starting to become tiring. I hope you're right Leliana is unavoidable, I'm scared they'll drop her after her possible death in DA:O was addressed. Biower pls retcon Other than that, I'd love it if Aveline, Fenris, Sten, Sera and Cassandra showed up. Damn, it was hard to narrow that to 5.
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Post by Rascoth on May 17, 2017 18:09:00 GMT
Except for obvious ones, I'm not sure I want many cameos/return. Too much potential for screwing up. Canonically alive in all worldstates:... - Shale, Dragon Age Origins: The Stone Prisoner This requires no explanation tbh. Shale is the best and was heading to Tevinter after Origins and Asunder didn't talk about this. Also, there weren't any golems in Inquisition and so it would be cool to see at least one. Correction, Shale can be dead. Just because she's alive in Asunder doesn't mean she's alive in everyone's game.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 17, 2017 18:41:47 GMT
I think Bioware have said they will not be bringing back characters who can potentially be dead again, at least not in a major role. So that rules out pretty much all of our previous companions (with certain exceptions - see below) They could possibly have a cameo as Nathaniel did in DA2, with a substitute plotline if the person did not survive.
I don't think we will see anyone who was made Divine, although we may well hear about them. It was strongly hinted that Leliana was grooming her successors in the epilogue to Trespasser and if not dead or divine and romanced then it said she had retired to a costal retreat with her Warden lover, so there are only a few scenarios where she has not otherwise been accounted for.
I'd love to see Scout Harding again and would happily have her as a companion. I'd certainly prefer her to Charter who has been getting too much exposure in the comics. Both were said to be successors to Leliana.
I'll be very surprised if Dorian isn't our link character to the previous game. No matter what the Inquisitor chose to do with him or what opinion they had of each other, he cannot be killed and ends up back in Tevinter as a Magister. I imagine him in an advisor role, briefing the new PC (and players) about Tevinter politics and probably giving quests. I'm hoping a sub-plot will involve finding his father's killers.
There is a possibility that Calpernia will return as we never see her dead and her fate in WoT2 is also ambiguous. I'd like to see her again but won't be heartbroken if we don't.
I would love to see Fenris again leading a revolt of Tevinter slaves and keeping them out of the clutches of the Qun (and Solas) or simply killing slavers. However, he could potentially be dead so likely only a cameo appearance as detailed above.
Not bothered about Sten but it is likely we will see him now he is Arishok.
Shale could potentially still be deactivated but as she appears in Asunder, I'm thinking they could explain that away by saying that someone else used the control rod with the correct password. So she could well appear up in Tevinter.
I don't think Sera would have any reason to be up north and am not bothered about seeing her. Ditto Bull and the Chargers even if they are not dead. Unfortunately Tallis would have a reason to be up north in Tevinter, so we may well see her again. I'm praying it is not as a possible companion. We could also see Gatt for the same reason.
We cannot possibly not encounter Solas again at some point, since he is now the principle antagonist seeing as he is planning to destroy our world. However, he may well be in the background much of the time. I also imagine that Morrigan will also pop up again eventually because of the whole heir to Flemeth/Mythal thing and presumably she will be working against Solas because she's a survivor and I'm pretty sure his plan will remove her as well. There was certainly no love lost between them in DAI.
To be honest, with the exception of Dorian and Scout Harding, I'd be happy to keep the number of cameos to a minimum and have a whole new set of companions to work with and NPCs to interact with, which I'm thinking was probably the intent in suggesting we will be going up north to Tevinter and well away from anywhere we have been previously.
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Post by secretrare on May 17, 2017 23:40:52 GMT
I find all of DA cameos to be rather unnecessary. Their strategy to bring back previous characters is by using a substitue temporary character to fill in their role if they are dead,but there is no way to develop anything that is remotely interesting so long as they keep using this strategy solely to try to reuse previous characters that don't need to be in the game in the first place.
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Post by oyabun on May 18, 2017 0:02:04 GMT
I think Bioware have said they will not be bringing back characters who can potentially be dead again, at least not in a major role. So that rules out pretty much all of our previous companions (with certain exceptions - see below) They could possibly have a cameo as Nathaniel did in DA2, with a substitute plotline if the person did not survive. I don't think we will see anyone who was made Divine, although we may well hear about them. It was strongly hinted that Leliana was grooming her successors in the epilogue to Trespasser and if not dead or divine and romanced then it said she had retired to a costal retreat with her Warden lover, so there are only a few scenarios where she has not otherwise been accounted for. I'd love to see Scout Harding again and would happily have her as a companion. I'd certainly prefer her to Charter who has been getting too much exposure in the comics. Both were said to be successors to Leliana. I'll be very surprised if Dorian isn't our link character to the previous game. No matter what the Inquisitor chose to do with him or what opinion they had of each other, he cannot be killed and ends up back in Tevinter as a Magister. I imagine him in an advisor role, briefing the new PC (and players) about Tevinter politics and probably giving quests. I'm hoping a sub-plot will involve finding his father's killers. There is a possibility that Calpernia will return as we never see her dead and her fate in WoT2 is also ambiguous. I'd like to see her again but won't be heartbroken if we don't. I would love to see Fenris again leading a revolt of Tevinter slaves and keeping them out of the clutches of the Qun (and Solas) or simply killing slavers. However, he could potentially be dead so likely only a cameo appearance as detailed above. Not bothered about Sten but it is likely we will see him now he is Arishok. Shale could potentially still be deactivated but as she appears in Asunder, I'm thinking they could explain that away by saying that someone else used the control rod with the correct password. So she could well appear up in Tevinter. I don't think Sera would have any reason to be up north and am not bothered about seeing her. Ditto Bull and the Chargers even if they are not dead. Unfortunately Tallis would have a reason to be up north in Tevinter, so we may well see her again. I'm praying it is not as a possible companion. We could also see Gatt for the same reason. We cannot possibly not encounter Solas again at some point, since he is now the principle antagonist seeing as he is planning to destroy our world. However, he may well be in the background much of the time. I also imagine that Morrigan will also pop up again eventually because of the whole heir to Flemeth/Mythal thing and presumably she will be working against Solas because she's a survivor and I'm pretty sure his plan will remove her as well. There was certainly no love lost between them in DAI. To be honest, with the exception of Dorian and Scout Harding, I'd be happy to keep the number of cameos to a minimum and have a whole new set of companions to work with and NPCs to interact with, which I'm thinking was probably the intent in suggesting we will be going up north to Tevinter and well away from anywhere we have been previously. I don't see the point in bringing back characters if there is no reason for them to be brought back regardless of if they are dead(which basically you can 't know with BioWare because they may retcon even in-screen deaths)or not. Their world seem to be dramatically small when I'm looking at how many characters they've recycled with new protagonists. Among all the characters mentioned other than Solas I don't see anyone to be necessary for a cameo,in fact the story doesn't need any of them.
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Post by arvaarad on May 18, 2017 0:17:29 GMT
Except for obvious ones, I'm not sure I want many cameos/return. Too much potential for screwing up. Canonically alive in all worldstates:... - Shale, Dragon Age Origins: The Stone Prisoner This requires no explanation tbh. Shale is the best and was heading to Tevinter after Origins and Asunder didn't talk about this. Also, there weren't any golems in Inquisition and so it would be cool to see at least one. Correction, Shale can be dead. Just because she's alive in Asunder doesn't mean she's alive in everyone's game. Heh, my very unlucky Warden managed to kill her off. It wasn't even my first playthrough, so I had no excuse for bringing her along when I knew I was going to save the Anvil. It slipped my mind, and it fit his character anyway, so I rolled with it. My HoF was so incompetent that he managed to miss both Sten and Leliana (again, and I cannot stress this enough: this wasn't my first playthrough... I, uh, forgot that you can't come back to Lothering) and he killed Wynne in the Circle despite saving the mages, so "bringing Shale along to save the Anvil" was just his luck. By the time he fought the Archdemon, he had so few party members that only Oghren and Dog were left defending the castle - not even a full party. His bumbling ended up being so endearing that I made him my canon warden. I was so pleased when I got to DA:I and Leliana (correctly) never mentioned meeting him.
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Post by rapscallioness on May 18, 2017 3:31:17 GMT
Not interested in a bunch of cameos, or returning characters. I think Solas for obvious reasons. Maybe Dorian? Other than I want to see new companions. New characters.
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Post by Zemgus on May 18, 2017 7:33:28 GMT
I'd like to see Oghren again. It seems like something big is going on in Weisshaupt and we might get to finally visit there in the next game. If so, I would love to see my old friend again. I imagine if the Wardens were exiled from the Southern Thedas that also applies to the ones in Amaranthine? So he could very well be there.
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