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Post by donkeyjote on May 17, 2017 4:19:25 GMT
Among folks high APEX rating, I don't see the Salarian Operator used often at all, and I really don't understand why. I understand that some UR characters can feel a bit underwhelming in Gold if you're not used to them and have them at rank 1, but not this guy!
Simple fact: you don't need the Offensive Tech tree we this dude.
The way I have him spec'd right now (still leveling him up):
--Invasion with recharge speed, weaken and sabotage. Sabotage gives minus 15% weapon damage from enemies. [EDIT: just tested virulence and it's kinda fun in groups]
--Support system with tech radius[EDIT: tech duration is actually better for shield boost's extended duration, and to increase stun time from Overload], support systems, and tech sabotage. Tech sabotage gives minus 30% damage from enemies you hit with Invasion or Overload.]
--Shield boost with restoration, recharge speed and [EDIT: overcharge. Overcharge doubles your shields for 3 seconds extended duration. Tested both and extended duration gives A LOT more survavibility.]
--Overload (still evolving that one but even at evo 1 you're already set) with recharge speed, anti-shield and EMP. Fuck chain overload, no time for that when your role is to charge forward. All I want is to max damage to shields, stun, and detonate enemies I prime with my Ghost.
This guy will give tough enemies amphibian nightmares! Invasion, unload your priming gun [pop shield boost as soon as you take damage], detonate with Overload. Repeat. This is extremely powerful and will decimate Krogans in a just a few seconds.
Bottom line: best low-rank UR char in the game IMO.
P.S. I'm still experimenting with evos, and still leveling him. Also, I might be wrong and power damage evos (from the offensive tech tree) actually do increase the debuff from Invasion? If someone has tested this let me know!
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Post by gethadept on May 17, 2017 4:41:18 GMT
Seemed like most people who play that kit does just fine by spamming Invasion and shield boost alone...
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Post by Symbolz on May 17, 2017 4:53:42 GMT
I see the Salarian Operator pretty often. I also use it a lot myself. It is a top tier kit that, despite it's support class roots, can dish out a lot of damage. The only lackluster ultra-rare kit, in my opinion, is the Asari Duelist. Speaking of the Salarian Operator, I gotta get back on him to continue grinding the shield boost challenge. Uuuuugh...  |
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Post by donkeyjote on May 17, 2017 5:03:32 GMT
I see the Salarian Operator pretty often. I also use it a lot myself. It is a top tier kit that, despite it's support class roots, can dish out a lot of damage. The only lackluster ultra-rare kit, in my opinion, is the Asari Duelist. Speaking of the Salarian Operator, I gotta get back on him to continue grinding the shield boost challenge. Uuuuugh... I tried to grind the Nova challenge and gave up :-) |
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Post by Symbolz on May 17, 2017 5:16:23 GMT
I see the Salarian Operator pretty often. I also use it a lot myself. It is a top tier kit that, despite it's support class roots, can dish out a lot of damage. The only lackluster ultra-rare kit, in my opinion, is the Asari Duelist. Speaking of the Salarian Operator, I gotta get back on him to continue grinding the shield boost challenge. Uuuuugh... I tried to grind the Nova challenge and gave up :-) Nova is easy compared to shield boost. Shield boost only gives 10 support points every couple of seconds. I've been at it for a few days now and it's only half way done. |
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Post by donkeyjote on May 17, 2017 5:19:32 GMT
I tried to grind the Nova challenge and gave up :-) Nova is easy compared to shield boost. Shield boost only gives 10 support points every couple of seconds. I've been at it for a few days now and it's only half way done. Good to know, I've used nova for two games and got bored  |
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Post by gib on May 17, 2017 17:25:39 GMT
He's probably my favourite kit in the game to be honest, but he's max level and I have other toons to max out, so I don't get to him often.
Is the duellist really that bad? It's the only kit I'm missing (13k apex), it seems some love it and some don't....
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Post by kaileena_sands on May 17, 2017 17:40:26 GMT
I don't play with him because the game is dead set on maxing the Kineticist to 10 for me before giving me a Salarian operator...
Whenever someone plays with him in a game, I die a little on the inside.
He looks quite fun and Invasion is currently bomb.
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Post by Shodan/etm125 on May 17, 2017 17:53:13 GMT
I absolutely love this kit. I got him to lvl 19 and put him down to lvl other kits but every time I play him I have a great time....mostly due to killstealing my teammates and listening to them bitch.
I play him slightly differently. I rock a scorpion for the operator. Why? Because it staggers whole groups and takes chunks of health from everybody. why is this good? Bc youre trying to trigger virulence explosions (f*** 15% dmg debuff on enemies. I did -80% on the turian agent and still couldnt care less). Virulence triggers when somebody hits 15% health and usually kills em. So I try to get multiple targets low hp but not quite dead. Virulence explosions going off left n right. I get kills pretty frequently while dead. i get kills from sh** thats not even in the same room. Makes me laugh every time.
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Post by rlro on May 17, 2017 17:57:43 GMT
Among folks high APEX rating, I don't see the Salarian Operator used often at all, and I really don't understand why. I understand that some UR characters can feel a bit underwhelming in Gold if you're not used to them and have them at rank 1, but not this guy! Apex 15K+ here and I use him quite often  Simple fact: you don't need the Offensive Tech tree we this dude. --Invasion with recharge speed, weaken and sabotage. Sabotage gives minus 15% weapon damage from enemies. [EDIT: just tested virulence and it's kinda fun in groups] Actually, I use Outbreak/Epidemic/Virulence. It is much better, imo. Try it yourself. Bottom line: best low-rank UR char in the game IMO. True. He is the only only that is good enough at rank I. |
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Post by Symbolz on May 17, 2017 18:01:31 GMT
I don't play with him because the game is dead set on maxing the Kineticist to 10 for me before giving me a Salarian operator... Whenever someone plays with him in a game, I die a little on the inside. He looks quite fun and Invasion is currently bomb. Invasion isn't bomb... it's... well for a lack of a better term: it's god damn space herpes. I was on Icebreaker and a new wave just started. I used it on a small cluster of enemies, cleaned them up, and moved onto the other side of the map. By the time I got there there were enemies dying to my invasion... it had spread from one side of the map to the other. It's nuts how far it can spread. |
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Post by Sparkz on May 17, 2017 18:21:21 GMT
I run with this build ( here) and totally wreck the map. Lots of fun but I do feel like a kill stealing whore sometimes. Go with Outbreak/Epidemic/Virulence on Invasion. |
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Post by varicite on May 17, 2017 19:10:13 GMT
I don't play with him because the game is dead set on maxing the Kineticist to 10 for me before giving me a Salarian operator... Whenever someone plays with him in a game, I die a little on the inside. He looks quite fun and Invasion is currently bomb. Invasion isn't bomb... it's... well for a lack of a better term: it's god damn space herpes. I was on Icebreaker and a new wave just started. I used it on a small cluster of enemies, cleaned them up, and moved onto the other side of the map. By the time I got there there were enemies dying to my invasion... it had spread from one side of the map to the other. It's nuts how far it can spread. Duelist only needs to max out Offensive Biotics, Barrier and Charge to do what she needs to, which you can do at Rank I. As for whether or not she sucks, she is the best melee kit in the game for survival, and she's quite fun to play if you enjoy melee. However, she's not going to be topping any scoreboards w/ predominately single-target attacks that have a long wind-up. If she is, the rest of the team is probably not very great. |
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Post by Kenny Bania on May 17, 2017 19:17:02 GMT
Invasion isn't bomb... it's... well for a lack of a better term: it's god damn space herpes. I was on Icebreaker and a new wave just started. I used it on a small cluster of enemies, cleaned them up, and moved onto the other side of the map. By the time I got there there were enemies dying to my invasion... it had spread from one side of the map to the other. It's nuts how far it can spread. Duelist only needs to max out Offensive Biotics, Barrier and Charge to do what she needs to, which you can do at Rank I. As for whether or not she sucks, she is the best melee kit in the game for survival, and she's quite fun to play if you enjoy melee. However, she's not going to be topping any scoreboards w/ predominately single-target attacks that have a long wind-up. If she is, the rest of the team is probably not very great. Pretty sure you can't max 3 skills at rank 1. |
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Post by rlro on May 17, 2017 19:23:39 GMT
Duelist only needs to max out Offensive Biotics, Barrier and Charge to do what she needs to, which you can do at Rank I. As for whether or not she sucks, she is the best melee kit in the game for survival, and she's quite fun to play if you enjoy melee. However, she's not going to be topping any scoreboards w/ predominately single-target attacks that have a long wind-up. If she is, the rest of the team is probably not very great. Pretty sure you can't max 3 skills at rank 1. Yeah, you can do it only on rank II |
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Post by varicite on May 17, 2017 19:24:16 GMT
Duelist only needs to max out Offensive Biotics, Barrier and Charge to do what she needs to, which you can do at Rank I. As for whether or not she sucks, she is the best melee kit in the game for survival, and she's quite fun to play if you enjoy melee. However, she's not going to be topping any scoreboards w/ predominately single-target attacks that have a long wind-up. If she is, the rest of the team is probably not very great. Pretty sure you can't max 3 skills at rank 1. You may be right, mine is actually at II, but you can still forego biotic Warrior and do fine. My rank II survives better than my Asari Sentinel at X on Gold, but that might just be my playstyle preference. I just got her second card this weekend, so I've been playing her at I in Gold for weeks without issue. The extra points will just go to backlash, which is serviceable at I. |
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Post by Symbolz on May 17, 2017 19:44:53 GMT
Duelist only needs to max out Offensive Biotics, Barrier and Charge to do what she needs to, which you can do at Rank I. As for whether or not she sucks, she is the best melee kit in the game for survival, and she's quite fun to play if you enjoy melee. However, she's not going to be topping any scoreboards w/ predominately single-target attacks that have a long wind-up. If she is, the rest of the team is probably not very great. I said she was luck luster, she doesn't suck. Aside from charge none of the other abilities make me go 'Wow, such synergy!'. On top of that her main focus, melee, is flaky at best. The number of times where I melee-ed and teleported right through the target, or turning 90º to the left or right, instead of hitting the target is unreasonably high. That is why I said she was, in my opinion, lack luster. |
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Post by varicite on May 17, 2017 19:58:35 GMT
Duelist only needs to max out Offensive Biotics, Barrier and Charge to do what she needs to, which you can do at Rank I. As for whether or not she sucks, she is the best melee kit in the game for survival, and she's quite fun to play if you enjoy melee. However, she's not going to be topping any scoreboards w/ predominately single-target attacks that have a long wind-up. If she is, the rest of the team is probably not very great. I said she was luck luster, she doesn't suck. Aside from charge none of the other abilities make me go 'Wow, such synergy!'. On top of that her main focus, melee, is flaky at best. The number of times where I melee-ed and teleported right through the target, or turning 90º to the left or right, instead of hitting the target is unreasonably high. That is why I said she was, in my opinion, lack luster. Ah, I gotcha. She's my favorite, but I've shelved her for now, because she's a buggy mess when there's any lag at all. Sword hit detection is iffy, and the animation takes like 3 seconds just to not register. And her teleport doesn't do jack a lot of times... She's a lot of fun with a good connection, but I don't get to pick the host. |
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Post by ramsen on May 17, 2017 21:29:15 GMT
He's good, but not that fun. Shield boost is boring, Overload is ok, Invasion is boring (Virulence helps).
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Post by codephat on May 17, 2017 23:08:05 GMT
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Post by nucleartech76 on May 18, 2017 0:10:05 GMT
I don't play with him because the game is dead set on maxing the Kineticist to 10 for me before giving me a Salarian operator... Whenever someone plays with him in a game, I die a little on the inside. He looks quite fun and Invasion is currently bomb. Invasion isn't bomb... it's... well for a lack of a better term: it's god damn space herpes. I was on Icebreaker and a new wave just started. I used it on a small cluster of enemies, cleaned them up, and moved onto the other side of the map. By the time I got there there were enemies dying to my invasion... it had spread from one side of the map to the other. It's nuts how far it can spread. It spreads over the whole map fairly quickly if whatever you cast it on lives for a few seconds. Duration seems to refresh from what I can tell each time it spreads. I think it doesn't count as a status effect for whatever reason so it won't weaken incoming damage unless you spec it in the actual power which is trash compared to the other evolution. |
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Post by donkeyjote on May 18, 2017 2:19:33 GMT
I run with this build ( here) and totally wreck the map. Lots of fun but I do feel like a kill stealing whore sometimes. Go with Outbreak/Epidemic/Virulence on Invasion. I'll try this now! I mean the Invasion evos you recommend. Going 4 ranks in offensive tech for 20% additional duration though seems a bit overkill IMO so I'll leave that tree empty for now and continue to max Overload. Thanks mate! |
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Post by rlro on May 18, 2017 13:48:41 GMT
I run with this build ( here) and totally wreck the map. Lots of fun but I do feel like a kill stealing whore sometimes. Go with Outbreak/Epidemic/Virulence on Invasion. I'll try this now! I mean the Invasion evos you recommend. Going 4 ranks in offensive tech for 20% additional duration though seems a bit overkill IMO so I'll leave that tree empty for now and continue to max Overload. Thanks mate! Overload level 1 and 6 are not so much different, so I consider a waste to add points to it, unless you have a rank VIII or more (mine is VI and I didn't put any point in Overload). |
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