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Post by CHRrOME on May 24, 2017 21:35:41 GMT
Anyone else slightly (or very) annoyed by this? They can melee you and stagger plus bye-bye shields whereas you try to melee them and may as well spit them in the face with better outcome.
That's why light and heavy melee from ME3 should return, I think. Light could be very fast and deal normal damage, heavy could be slow but deal better damage plus stagger the enemy. If the AI can stagger us with melee, why we can't? Is not a feature that they'll probably bring back though, but I can still bitch about it.
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Post by KLGChaos on May 24, 2017 21:44:47 GMT
Yep... The best part is when you've got them burning from a Flamethrower and they just walk through it to punch you.
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Post by rtrnofdmax on May 24, 2017 22:02:33 GMT
Their changes thus far seem largely related to the prevalence of certain builds/weapon choices. The early meta was Vanquisher and Melee. Those two paths were weakened, with everything else buffed.
I think if one wants a certain build to work in the future, the only answer is to not play it, or actively bash it. Remember how many people bitched about combos, the Ruzad, Remnant VI, etc. Those things are amazing now.
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Post by antsu on May 24, 2017 22:29:14 GMT
Who needs melee? We have jetpacks.
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Post by CommanderSanders on May 24, 2017 22:36:12 GMT
It's because melee was better than all shotguns pre-1.06. Now that the game is in a better spot I hope they'll revert that change. I wouldn't hold my breath, though.
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Post by xaijin on May 24, 2017 22:45:14 GMT
Bad melee is saddening.
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Post by crashsuit on May 24, 2017 22:58:42 GMT
Most enemies seem to me to be much harder to stagger in general compared with ME3. That's one of the reasons I liked Flak Cannon so much, even before the damage buff. Unlimited reliable staggers, more or less.
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on May 24, 2017 23:12:13 GMT
it was a terrible decision. The only reason everyone used melee in the first place was their own failures. Their "fix" for it wasn't a fix and it's still viable...it just makes the game corny. Like when I "headbutt" a little raider with a Krogan and he looks at me like I'm nothing and then punches me and staggers me back 5 feet lol.
This new Bioware is pretty funny. I guess at least they showed some mercy and put the Mass Effect series "on ice"
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Post by psychmoose on May 25, 2017 4:05:54 GMT
Yep... The best part is when you've got them burning from a Flamethrower and they just walk through it to punch you. I absolutely hate that! Get a second of channeling and then some little raider interrupts my Merc.
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Post by vomder on May 25, 2017 4:31:06 GMT
I had a real problem with Assemblers today dodging backwards from me, then staggering me, and then shooting me dead. Was quite asinine.
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Post by gethadept on May 25, 2017 4:45:58 GMT
I feel murderous intent toward sharpshooters everyday.
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Post by KLGChaos on May 25, 2017 9:41:18 GMT
Yep... The best part is when you've got them burning from a Flamethrower and they just walk through it to punch you. I absolutely hate that! Get a second of channeling and then some little raider interrupts my Merc. Yep. Stripped a sharpshooter of his shields and started him burning. He saw my big badass Krogan bearing down on him, his skin burning for about 3 seconds and then just pushes through, walks a good 6-7 ft over, and punches me out of it, easily staggering the being that's 3 times his size, despite his muscles melting from his bones.
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Post by mydamnalterego on May 25, 2017 10:34:00 GMT
Sometimes it is fun to look at Sharpshooters punching the Assault Turret, though :-))
Back to the subject, though - it's not the road TO bullshit, it's just another hindrance on the road FROM the bullshit, where this game actually is, to more or less normal game.
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Post by Kazu on May 25, 2017 11:42:27 GMT
I had a real problem with Assemblers today dodging backwards from me, then staggering me, and then shooting me dead. Was quite asinine. Assemblers actually poop some kind of explosive before they jump back. So if they jump back just make a step to the side or back and you are not staggered.
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Post by squaredgonzo on May 25, 2017 16:10:20 GMT
I love it when an agent staggers my Kroguard. Fucking midget krogans
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Post by CHRrOME on May 25, 2017 17:44:45 GMT
I had a real problem with Assemblers today dodging backwards from me, then staggering me, and then shooting me dead. Was quite asinine. Assemblers actually poop some kind of explosive before they jump back. So if they jump back just make a step to the side or back and you are not staggered. Normal behavior against Remnant is: stay the F away from them. They either one shoot you, stagger you, poop explosive thingies, hurl jihaad drones at you, and who knows what else.
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Post by varicite on May 25, 2017 22:26:05 GMT
Just a FYI, asari sword staggers dudes.
I imagine Krogan hammer does as well, since they have the same force.
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Post by JRandall0308 on May 25, 2017 22:41:03 GMT
And on-host that works really well, off-host the game is brutally unforgiving.
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Post by nucleartech76 on May 25, 2017 23:19:28 GMT
More sad than all that is krogan, the badasses of mass Effect, go into cryo partially cure the genophage but come out the biggest pussies in Andromeda. Krogan would rather be dead than become the assclowns this game has made them into.
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Post by 3rdpig on May 26, 2017 0:13:59 GMT
More sad than all that is krogan, the badasses of mass Effect, go into cryo partially cure the genophage but come out the biggest pussies in Andromeda. Krogan would rather be dead than become the assclowns this game has made them into. Hard not to agree with that. Krogan, once the most feared warriors in the galaxy, now run from dogs and small flying drones. Sad.
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Post by jmac1424 on May 26, 2017 1:11:25 GMT
Every game is Geth goddamn Platinum now, with all the constant stagger bullshit. It's fuckin maddening. I can only take 1 or 2 Pug games at a time now because of this shit. I can play with friends for hours at a time. But, pugging, is just eating a shit sandwich right now. At least on ME3, you nuke double mothafuckinPrimes into oblivion. Now, double cocksuckinBeserkers just laugh, slap the shit out of you, take your shield and then some fucknut Raider or Sharpshooter finishes you off with one fuckin shot. Fuck this fuckin shit. NG+ on The Witcher:Wild Hunt resumed. And I know L2P, git gud, etc fuckin etc
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on May 26, 2017 1:23:45 GMT
Every game is Geth goddamn Platinum now, with all the constant stagger bullshit. It's fuckin maddening. I can only take 1 or 2 Pug games at a time now because of this shit. I can play with friends for hours at a time. But, pugging, is just eating a shit sandwich right now. At least on ME3, you nuke double mothafuckinPrimes into oblivion. Now, double cocksuckinBeserkers just laugh, slap the shit out of you, take your shield and then some fucknut Raider or Sharpshooter finishes you off with one fuckin shot. Fuck this fuckin shit. NG+ on The Witcher:Wild Hunt resumed. And I know L2P, git gud, etc fuckin etc But... How do you really feel?
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Post by bohemiadrinker on May 26, 2017 1:39:36 GMT
I'm annoyed from the lack of stagger in general. Powers feel kind of"empty" and the game flow is akward because you don't actually stagger the enemy with, say, overload or incinerate.
That and the dog things are the low point for me.
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Post by JRandall0308 on May 26, 2017 3:01:35 GMT
Uh, Overload certainly does stagger enemies.
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Post by OneWomanArmy on May 26, 2017 4:41:08 GMT
Melee is not fun in this game. There is no such thing as grab your enemies from behind the cover or just a decent cover system all together. It's a joke.
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