About staggering enemies with melee

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About staggering enemies with melee May 26, 2017 10:58:30 GMT hanskey likes this

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Post by vacaneon on May 26, 2017 10:58:30 GMT

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12FgX1J0dlwNks__49P-8E9pu0jyUAcwdPf0wDQ1Epno/edit#gid=734009891

I am curious about how staggering enemies works in game.

The melee table shows that Krogan hammer only has a force of 350 while Biotic Amplifier (fist punching) has a force of 500.
However, in my personal gaming experience I can always guarantee to stagger non-boss units with Krogan Hammer, while Biotic Amplifier can not.

So how do enemies get staggered in game? Is force the only factor, or there are other factors that needs to be considered as well, such as damage?

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Last Edit: May 26, 2017 12:30:01 GMT by vacaneon

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About staggering enemies with melee May 26, 2017 12:14:18 GMT vacaneon and hanskey like this

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Post by lennybusker on May 26, 2017 12:14:18 GMT

Hello_Isaac - Today at 8:11 AM
well, stagger is not at all force-related, I know that
I set biotic punch to 1000 force once to check it
made no difference

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About staggering enemies with melee May 26, 2017 12:23:59 GMT hanskey likes this

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Post by Pounce de León on May 26, 2017 12:23:59 GMT

May 26, 2017 12:14:18 GMT lennybusker said:

Hello_Isaac - Today at 8:11 AM
well, stagger is not at all force-related, I know that
I set biotic punch to 1000 force once to check it
made no difference

Maybe their resistance threshold sits at 2000?

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Post by Ares on May 26, 2017 12:27:17 GMT

What bothers me even more is that there seems to be no reliable way to stagger enemies in this game. Sometimes headshots stagger sometimes they don't, even when using the same gun. Also powers like flamethrower/incinerate should cause health enemies to panic but sometimes they just ignore it and continue shooting you in the face.

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