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Post by Feneckus on May 29, 2017 10:40:11 GMT
I thought it would be interesting to compare the present state of MEA to the one of ME3 at roughly the same time in their life spans. In the following table, ME3 was a couple of weeks older but I think it paints a pretty clear picture about the differences between those two games.
| Mass Effect 3 | Mass Effect Andromeda | Characters | 30 | 23 | Character Races | 10 (Human, Drell, Asari, Krogan, Quarian, Geth, Salarian, Turian, Batarian, Vorcha) | 6 (Human, Asari, Turian, Salarian, Krogan, Angara)
| Maps | 10 | 6 | Claymores | 1 | 0 | Non-Claymore Weapons | 44 | 49 | Powers | 43 | 29 | Grenades | 6 (Cluster, Sticky, Lift, Frag, Inferno, Arc) | 3 (Frag, Sticky, Trip Mines) | MP Exclusive Powers | 12 (Biotic Sphere, Ballistic Blades, Blade Armor, Submission Net, Hunter Mode, Geth Turret, Flamer, Tactical Scan, Bloodlust, Lash, Smash, Arc Grenades) | 4.5 (Shield Boost, Recon Visor, Fortify, Stealth Grid, Avenger Strike*)
* --> Squadmate power in SP | MP Exclusive Weapons | 6 (Striker, Harrier, Reegar, Kishock, Krysae, Geth SMG) | 0 | Balance Changes | 13 | 3 | Community Challenges | 5 | 0 | APEX Missions | 0 | Who cares ? | Extra XP Weekends | 2 | 0 | Ultra Rare Cards | 90 | 190 |
Now, to be fair, some of the issues come from Single Player. It's not the MP's team fault that even though we're in a totally new galaxy we have somehow only come across one new race. What is inexcusable, however, is the apparent lack of care. They have shown with the Cyclone buff that they're capable of server side balance changes, they are just not interested in doing so on a regular basis like they were for ME3. No extra XP weekends even though the community has been pretty vocal about the grind. Barely anything that does not come from Single Player or previous Mass Effect games. Just Stealth Grid and the Ascension gimmick mechanic if I'm not mistaken. Soon we might get Quarians and maybe some other stuff, but nowhere near enough to make up the gap. And I doubt it will be in a couple of weeks either. What's depressing is I'm just looking at numbers here, we're not even talking about things like being unable to headshot stuff off host, broken Fiends, losing sound, crashing to desktop, lag, fun factor not really being there etc ... Issues that for the most part did not exist in ME3 at this point. I want to like the game, I really do, but at some point I guess I won't be able to say this game was not a failure/shameless cash grab.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on May 29, 2017 10:56:41 GMT
Yeah, but if this was ME 3 I'd still have a couple more weeks before I'd recover from the emotional wasteland that was the ending.
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Post by OneWomanArmy on May 29, 2017 11:20:36 GMT
^ The me3 endings didn't have anything to do with its mp, or maybe I'm mistaken..
If only they had been smart enough to make mea mp like me3 mp.... a lot more people would be playing the game right now.
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Post by lennybusker on May 29, 2017 11:27:12 GMT
^ The me3 endings didn't have anything to do with its mp, or maybe I'm mistaken.. If only they had been smart enough to make mea mp like me3 mp.... a lot more people would be playing the game right now. Well it gave you a reason to promote, outside of free respecs which wasn't such a bad deal considering how quickly you got back to 20. Unlike in this grindfest. Even if promoting gave like 10K credits...fuck it even if it gave 100K credits I wouldn't do it. Not even once. The grind is intolerable. I don't know how I managed to get all mine to 20. Sheer fucking masochism.
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Post by Vatkuli on May 29, 2017 12:03:50 GMT
Actually now that it's mentioned, I also thought a while ago that community challenges would have been a nice thing to have in ME:A also. Yeayea, not the biggest of problems at the moment What I would also like to have, are those mission type maps also, like in Dragon age : Inquisition, would raised the multiplayers points in my eyes a lot.
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Post by Pounce de León on May 29, 2017 12:16:01 GMT
^ The me3 endings didn't have anything to do with its mp, or maybe I'm mistaken.. If only they had been smart enough to make mea mp like me3 mp.... a lot more people would be playing the game right now. MP fucking saved the franchise for me. I was like "Fuckit! Gonna try this MP button - maybe I get der moneys worth out of it there."
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on May 29, 2017 12:38:31 GMT
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Post by Transcended One on May 29, 2017 12:46:32 GMT
At least we can Vanguard off-host...
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Post by OneWomanArmy on May 29, 2017 12:58:47 GMT
^ The me3 endings didn't have anything to do with its mp, or maybe I'm mistaken.. If only they had been smart enough to make mea mp like me3 mp.... a lot more people would be playing the game right now. MP fucking saved the franchise for me. I was like "Fuckit! Gonna try this MP button - maybe I get der moneys worth out of it there." Same for me I think, although I came into mp a lot later than most of you but it made me see the game differently, it was a lot more fun. Or wait... did you mean mea mp? Lol I gotta get some more coffee. Let me get back to you with a better reply after that
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Post by Kazu on May 29, 2017 13:09:14 GMT
I am pretty sure there where no playable Geth, Batarian, Vorcha or Drell before the 2nd or 3rd MP DLC in ME3MP.
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Post by Pounce de León on May 29, 2017 13:14:25 GMT
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Post by vomder on May 29, 2017 13:32:01 GMT
Quite sad when you think about it. Really most of the stuff in ME3 should have automatically been in MEA at launch. Instead they jettisoned a bunch of stuff in dark space.
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Post by OneWomanArmy on May 29, 2017 13:57:07 GMT
And the banners - the banners were so much cooler, right bacon? Yesss the banners were cool!! My first and only one... (I know ) was the Map Mastery one, I was so proud of it. In mea I have that shitty Test shit thing they only give a few or something lol, can't even remember the name
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Post by palker4 on May 29, 2017 14:04:45 GMT
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Post by Feneckus on May 29, 2017 14:19:08 GMT
I am pretty sure there where no playable Geth, Batarian, Vorcha or Drell before the 2nd or 3rd MP DLC in ME3MP. Drells were there at launch. Batarians and Geths were brought with the first DLC.
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Post by Schachmatt123 on May 29, 2017 14:51:56 GMT
Five years ago, BSN multiplayer section was exploding. Today, there are literally 5 members browsing the Andromeda mp section right now.
Five years ago, my whole friendlist was busy playing ME3MP. Last week, there were more friends playing ME3MP than Andromeda at one point.
Until recently, I always found instantly a game/lobby while searching U/U/G in ME3MP. In Andromeda, more and more often I don't find any game while searching for U/U/G.
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Post by Transcended One on May 29, 2017 15:36:43 GMT
I am pretty sure there where no playable Geth, Batarian, Vorcha or Drell before the 2nd or 3rd MP DLC in ME3MP. Drells were there at launch. Batarians and Geths were brought with the first DLC. And Vorcha (and Male Quarians + Project Phoenix dudes) were included in the second DLC, which was released exactly 5 years ago. So yes, OP did his homework, and I agree that new content (as in more than just 1 kit + a weapon) should be released VERY soon.
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Post by Kazu on May 29, 2017 15:49:59 GMT
New quality content would be really nice without doubt.
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Post by Leland Gaunt on May 29, 2017 16:43:59 GMT
Would be great if we'd get some stuff somewhat soon.
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Post by mydamnalterego on May 29, 2017 16:50:32 GMT
Briefly - IF it was ... but IT ISN'T .... fucking EA ....
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Post by q5tyhj on May 29, 2017 19:12:39 GMT
if MEA were ME3, it'd actually be fun and I'd still be playing it
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Post by PATPATPATlol on May 29, 2017 19:19:35 GMT
Any new kits they might release will probably just have throw, lance, energy drain combination of powers slapped on them anyway.
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Post by Sentinel2010 on May 29, 2017 19:37:45 GMT
If this were ME3 we would not see any sequel at all. And Cora in SP has shield boost, so it is 4 (1+1+1+0.5+0.5) MP exclusive powers.
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Post by lennybusker on May 29, 2017 19:54:16 GMT
Any new kits they might release will probably just have throw, lance, energy drain combination of powers slapped on them anyway. Have you seen the Angara Exemplar datamined kit yet? Overload, Barricade, Energy Drain, with a special Offensive Tech called Angara Trance (similar to Kineticist's special Offensive Biotics). yeah, wow. blowin my skirt up here.
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