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Post by Iddy on Jun 13, 2017 12:33:21 GMT
As in the title.
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Post by PhroX on Jun 13, 2017 15:29:01 GMT
IIRC, the shock effect from lighting spells prevents weakness from the RM spells being applied propoerly, and without weakness, the RM loses a lot of its effects.
I think there was a mod to fix this over on Nexus. Not sure if it actually works.
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Post by Iddy on Jun 13, 2017 15:59:26 GMT
IIRC, the shock effect from lighting spells prevents weakness from the RM spells being applied propoerly, and without weakness, the RM loses a lot of its effects. I think there was a mod to fix this over on Nexus. Not sure if it actually works. You mean debuff effects? Meh, not a great loss. I was worried that it decreased damage or something.
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Post by PhroX on Jun 13, 2017 16:16:42 GMT
Without Weakness being applied to enemies, RMs lose out on their extra mana regen which is quite a hit.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 13, 2017 18:47:50 GMT
I didn't know there was a problem, that's a new one on me. So where does it say that exactly? I must admit I tend to prefer Knight Enchanter as my specialism but I have used Rift Mage and I don't recall having lightning spells impacting on it.
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Post by Lazarillo on Jun 14, 2017 3:44:22 GMT
You mean debuff effects? Meh, not a great loss. I was worried that it decreased damage or something. Actually, it does reduce damage. The Rift Mage passive Twisting Veil causes you to do more damage against enemies you've hit with Weaken. Plus there's the mana regen problem that Phrox mentioned. It's a pretty significant loss to your ability to spam spells for damage. I did a game where I had Rift with a lot of Storm spells (because Storm spells are cool), without knowing about the glitch at the time. Then I found out and tried another run that used mostly Winter...it was like day and night. I actually just thought Rift was a really wimpy build until I learned the truth.
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Post by Lazarillo on Jun 14, 2017 3:50:46 GMT
I didn't know there was a problem, that's a new one on me. So where does it say that exactly? I must admit I tend to prefer Knight Enchanter as my specialism but I have used Rift Mage and I don't recall having lightning spells impacting on it. It's not really an explicit thing, it's just an unfortunate and not-well-thought-out side-effect of a certain spell combination (which are not super-well documented in general, in-game). Basically, Shock (side effect of electric damage) + Weaken on the same enemy puts the enemy to sleep, which would be good (and can even set up combos to be detonated), except it also removes both statuses. Since Rift makes heavy use of that mana regen ability, and since it can combo off itself anyway (Winter's Grasp or Ice Mine + Stonefist is actually even easier in fact), it's just more of a drag on the build than an advantage.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jun 14, 2017 3:57:00 GMT
There's a glitch? Sheeesh, I didn't even realise. I'd better redo the spells on my human RM.
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