Petition to the Devs to leave us in a blaze of glory: Release everything left to us at once.

The state of MP is not "collateral damage". They purged the best weapons, best powers, best kits from MP, as well as reload cancelling and charging mechanisms. They deliberately cut out everything that made ME3MP succesful. This is not collateral damage, this is sheer stupidity. When you have a foundation you build on what works, they did the exact opposite.

I see no hope with Bulwark and Concussive weapons no matter what they do from here.

I can`t even hoard items anymore thanks to bottomless supply of bulwark & concussive weapons.

It's not blaming the players at all... I even said they know holding/releasing this content won't make a difference.  This is a public relations move for the future.

What they want is the appearance.  Sure, they fucked up the game and MP is byproduct of studio dysfunction.  But how bad does is look if EA gives up on major franchise's ENTIRE content?  How bad does it look to investors they threw in the towel on what was Bioware's flagship franchise last generation?  How bad does it look to gamers that EA pulls the ENTIRE team off the product instead of leaving players the skeletal staff we have now.

It's no secret MEA is being buried, but neither EA or Bioware wants to truly let on how deep they need to dig that grave.  Investors and players know they gave up, but having the ability to say "We supported MEA for 10 months", sounds much better than "We didn't have shit else to do, and held content back to make it look like we supported the game for 10 months".


That has nothing to do with what players thought of the game or how shitty the development was.  It has to do with EA/Bioware saving face for future games (Anthem & Battlefront).  If those games run into issues, they can point to MEA as a game that didn't succeed, that players left........... BUT they continued to support.  This is all for public relations, not because they give a damn about MEA players, but they care more about future EA game players.

Management doesn't only care about 1 game & making & losing money.  They care about 5-10 games making money, and optics is a very crucial element to making sure each project makes money.

And what did they cut that made launch ME3 successful?  Aside from the DLC versus drip content, the core of both MPs were functionally similar.

The same sentence you bolded, is probably the exact same argument campaign players can make as to why MEA wasn't as good as the original trilogy.

Paragon/Renegade
1 class, as opposed to access to all 7 profiles
Long arching decisions
Short term decisions affecting the ending
Underlying romance options, as opposed to just flirting with every damn person on the ship


MP had to follow some sort of logic with the campaign.  Couldn't go adding Quarians & Drells to our initial roster without them in the story.  Probably would have added them if we got the Qauriark DLC.  Couldn't do N7 soldiers which only made sense in ME3.  

That's collateral damage....on top of the untested product they rolled out at launch

In all fairness though, ME3 characters at launch were pretty generic...it just happened to be new & exciting since it was the first MP/coop element to the franchise.

The DLC's though added all the variety to the characters, with different races and powers that we didn't have in the launch/vanilla characters.

MEA launched, and it combined some of DLC powers and original powers.  N7 Fury turned into the Asari Adept, N7 Shadow has some traits in the Avenger, Krogan Warlord was now the Krogan Gladiator....... Hunter mode was dummied down to Recon Visor.  So the variety we saw in ME3s best DLC packs, was loosely added to MEA launch characters.

Who you callin an ox?!

Might as well with them jumping ship...let us extract whatever enjoyment is left to be had.

I know, ME3 did start out basic but I was mainly referring to the DLC content. Compared to how they released things in MEA was disappointing. It just didn’t seem as polished maybe? Could be a better word for what I’m looking for. Those 30 second character trailers seemed like some amateur type of work. Everything about this MP seemed generic/ stripped down.
I just figured they would build on what made ME3MP shine in the long run and MEAMP would be amazing. There’s still some fun to be had (I’ve put in quite a few hours myself) but now the population has died drastically and the loot pool is way too crazy for me.

Aside from game mechanics, I fail to see anything that ruins a game, as opposed to individual likes & preferences a player may have.  Were the guns & powers fun to use in ME3?  Absolutely, but why would a game use every item from a prior game without making them feel identical?  All games at some point add or remove items to be unique from one another.

I miss my Claymore...wouldn't have changed MP though.  I loved freezing a Phantom in place with Stasis... can't think of a single enemy that needs it in MEA.  

As for the kits, that's subjective as well.  There were some plain kits in ME3 that had very little purpose, or completely ignored their classification.  MEA didn't confine themselves to making classes this time to fit each of the 6 classifications.  Rares and URs disregard the class logic without needing to fill a certain role.

I miss my Drell running all over the place.  Would anyone trade their jetpack for a Drell though?  A mechanic introduced to give all characters more mobility.



And dismissing the aspects of SP, doesn't mean you've actually proved your point.  On the contrary, it just means you didn't have a case and dismissing it is your only way to avoid the topic.  SP does impact MP, which is why no Drells & Quarians were in MP at launch.  Which is why they stuck our MP characters with mainly the powers Ryder had... they didn't stray too far from the powers Ryder had access to.  It's why SP didn't have Drell or Batarian related powers like ballistic blades or cluster grenades.

However, it's not hard to point to the issues SP had (lack of different alien species, lack of unique aliens, rarity of biotics since it was a Milky Way power) that impacted the lack of variety MP had.  ME3 had 6 more alien species + N7 characters.  Take that away from the lore, and it's adding to the case that SP collateral damage impacts MP.

You have no idea how much I agree with you.

Where do you think all of this projected energy comes from?  Lol.

It's extra infuriating when the profane dumbassery of the real world crosses over into what you'd hoped was one of a few sanctuaries.  I abhor games, hobbies, ventures or actions in them that trend toward the status quo.  That's the point where you have to point out the bs.  Because it will never work in the real world.  When it starts to arbitrate in the artificial (games and such) or new worlds (seemingly status quo challenging ventures), you have to put your foot down as a sane human being only trying to retain some personally necessary threshold of functioning cognition.

Fuck em, I don't give a fuck what they do at this point

Thought I add this just so people remember what company we are asking

Have we not been burned before?

You all have your idea what blaze of glory is... Bioware has another...







Do we really wanna be hit with another incinerate?

I can see them adding special UR verions of a few select rares (like S versions of commons) just to please those "Truly dedicated fans".......