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Post by solarificspaghetti on Aug 23, 2017 5:50:03 GMT
Do these petitions ever work?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 7:01:11 GMT
I still can’t believe they messed up the MP side of things so bad. The formula was so simple to follow from ME3MP. I expected them to just build on that but nope, they went backwards. I won’t reopen too many negatives but I remember first week playing with randoms and everybody asking why they can’t pull enemies from cover lol. On top of that, the kits were so generic. This wasn’t surprising but I was expecting some MP DLC, not this 1 character release with a crappy 30 second APEX video. When they dropped the first one I then knew it was over. I tried to ignore my instinct but in the back of my mind I knew the quality wasn’t there. I was having flashbacks of N7 Shadow, Slayer, Geth, Captain America dude, Hawkeye dude, etc etc. I thought we would get kits like that again with awesome trailers (my favorite from ME3 was Retaliation).but nope. Such a bummer. Last thing... I tried to get back into MEAMP a few times. I recently played last week but I couldn’t even find a game for almost 10 minutes and then I looked at my collections....... just way too much to unlock and the chances of me getting the things I want is too low. It’s just too overwhelming for me. Blaze of Glory for me would be increasing the drop rates, lowering the cost of packs and items that cost mission funds. Let the few players they have left get a chance to max out builds, try all the different kinds of weapons, etc. That would be nice but it’s very unlikely to happen. The more I think about it, the more disappointed I get. I was so excited before launch, bragged to my friends how fun MP would be. Now I feel stupid. Everybody I know dropped the game, barely can find games with randoms and the loot pool is so big that everything feels out of reach ;-( sad sad. Almost exactly how I feel. I was hoping they'd find a solution to 1.09 and add more dlc as time went on but to cut off all support so abruptly just sucks. I went from pessimistically optimistic ( ) to indifferent. Knowing this game has hit its red line less than half a year after release just removes all the fucks I gave. Hard to care about it anymore. To to the guy who said the vanilla characters of ME3 MP are "generic" they're all still extremely popular to this day and have been very well suited to higher difficulties. The fuck does that even mean, "generic?"
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Post by mrfuddyduddy on Aug 23, 2017 7:17:44 GMT
Just so you guys know, if in any way you support anthem, and its the same shallow sugar coated :poop: this game was, its is absolutely 100% your fault... They make games this way, because people buy them this way.MEA got me really excited, but reminded me exactly why video games are to be left in my childhood. Remember this post... Anthem, will be just as "trash" as mass effect andromeda... until people actually catch on (or give a shyt) games will continue to be released in beta and patched later. Huh? The reason they're canning support is because it DIDN'T sell well. Didn't Andromeda actually sell better than every other Mass Effect in the franchise? There cutting this turd loose because of how poorly received and criticized it was, not because of how bad it sold. From CFO Blake Jorgensen: "Year-on-year growth was driven by the Mass Effect Andromeda sales, captured in the quarter and by FIFA,” Jorgensen said. “Digital net sales were $681 million, a new record for the first quarter, and up $113 million on the year-ago period. The increase reflects strength in live services, together with our mobile business. In addition, Mass Effect Andromeda was a significant contributor. Full game PC and console downloads generated net sales of $111 million, 32% higher than last year. This was driven by Mass Effect Andromeda sales captured in the quarter.” I took this from a Forbes article written back in July From my perspective EA/Bioware Montreal are just a bunch of b**** made SJW's that couldn't deal with some criticism and decided to give up instead of trying to make sh** right. I mean just look at No Mans Sky or The Division, both of these games sold INCREDIBLY well, were HORRIBLY received and are both STILL being supported today. EA/ Bioware was just like "OhHhhH no they don't like it, shut down everything we have to pretend this game didn't exist... Never mind how good it sold we need to jump ship before it gets worse!"
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Post by poultrymancer on Aug 23, 2017 7:51:07 GMT
Do these petitions ever work? No. This is purely a cathartic exercise. I doubt even OP expected Bioware would ever see this, let alone be persuaded.
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Post by shinobiwan on Aug 23, 2017 11:30:54 GMT
Huh? The reason they're canning support is because it DIDN'T sell well. Didn't Andromeda actually sell better than every other Mass Effect in the franchise? There cutting this turd loose because of how poorly received and criticized it was, not because of how bad it sold. From CFO Blake Jorgensen: "Year-on-year growth was driven by the Mass Effect Andromeda sales, captured in the quarter and by FIFA,” Jorgensen said. “Digital net sales were $681 million, a new record for the first quarter, and up $113 million on the year-ago period. The increase reflects strength in live services, together with our mobile business. In addition, Mass Effect Andromeda was a significant contributor. Full game PC and console downloads generated net sales of $111 million, 32% higher than last year. This was driven by Mass Effect Andromeda sales captured in the quarter.” I took this from a Forbes article written back in July From my perspective EA/Bioware Montreal are just a bunch of b**** made SJW's that couldn't deal with some criticism and decided to give up instead of trying to make sh** right. I mean just look at No Mans Sky or The Division, both of these games sold INCREDIBLY well, were HORRIBLY received and are both STILL being supported today. EA/ Bioware was just like "OhHhhH no they don't like it, shut down everything we have to pretend this game didn't exist... Never mind how good it sold we need to jump ship before it gets worse!" I already explained this elsewhere. They're not saying MEA met sales projections there. They're saying revenue as a whole is up YoY this quarter 10% and that it was comprised primarily of revenue from FIFA and MEA. That's actually not a good sign considering there were no comparably large releases in the same period last year, and they conspicuously don't specify how much MEA contributed. A company doesn't reassign an entire studio and cancel years' worth of planned sequels and DLC that was likely already in the works just because it's butthurt about mean things said in reviews. Obviously sales and sales projections were affected.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 23, 2017 11:42:53 GMT
I still can’t believe they messed up the MP side of things so bad. The formula was so simple to follow from ME3MP. I expected them to just build on that but nope, they went backwards. I won’t reopen too many negatives but I remember first week playing with randoms and everybody asking why they can’t pull enemies from cover lol. On top of that, the kits were so generic. This wasn’t surprising but I was expecting some MP DLC, not this 1 character release with a crappy 30 second APEX video. When they dropped the first one I then knew it was over. I tried to ignore my instinct but in the back of my mind I knew the quality wasn’t there. I was having flashbacks of N7 Shadow, Slayer, Geth, Captain America dude, Hawkeye dude, etc etc. I thought we would get kits like that again with awesome trailers (my favorite from ME3 was Retaliation).but nope. Such a bummer. Last thing... I tried to get back into MEAMP a few times. I recently played last week but I couldn’t even find a game for almost 10 minutes and then I looked at my collections....... just way too much to unlock and the chances of me getting the things I want is too low. It’s just too overwhelming for me. Blaze of Glory for me would be increasing the drop rates, lowering the cost of packs and items that cost mission funds. Let the few players they have left get a chance to max out builds, try all the different kinds of weapons, etc. That would be nice but it’s very unlikely to happen. The more I think about it, the more disappointed I get. I was so excited before launch, bragged to my friends how fun MP would be. Now I feel stupid. Everybody I know dropped the game, barely can find games with randoms and the loot pool is so big that everything feels out of reach ;-( sad sad. Almost exactly how I feel. I was hoping they'd find a solution to 1.09 and add more dlc as time went on but to cut off all support so abruptly just sucks. I went from pessimistically optimistic ( ) to indifferent. Knowing this game has hit its red line less than half a year after release just removes all the fucks I gave. Hard to care about it anymore. To to the guy who said the vanilla characters of ME3 MP are "generic" they're all still extremely popular to this day and have been very well suited to higher difficulties. The fuck does that even mean, "generic?" Dude, they are super engeneric. You just have to *play* them to see. I generate lots of explosions with the human engie. Their drone generate giggles when I hear it zzzzt stuff behind the wall. The adept are a whole ingeniourator in themselves - either for fisticuffing mooks or double detonating all the things.
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Post by tatann on Aug 23, 2017 11:49:35 GMT
Almost exactly how I feel. I was hoping they'd find a solution to 1.09 and add more dlc as time went on but to cut off all support so abruptly just sucks. I went from pessimistically optimistic ( ) to indifferent. Knowing this game has hit its red line less than half a year after release just removes all the fucks I gave. Hard to care about it anymore. To to the guy who said the vanilla characters of ME3 MP are "generic" they're all still extremely popular to this day and have been very well suited to higher difficulties. The fuck does that even mean, "generic?" Dude, they are super engeneric. You just have to *play* them to see. I generate lots of explosions with the human engie. Their drone generate giggles when I hear it zzzzt stuff behind the wall. The adept are a whole ingeniourator in themselves - either for fisticuffing mooks or double detonating all the things. Exactly, human engineer was one of my top 5 characters, and not just cause of the drone. Human adept was great too, as well as human sentinel. And one of the thing I miss the most was the human soldier with his spammable Concussive Shot (especially with cryo ammo on organics). The cooldown was so short I barely had time to fire 2 bullets between 2 concussive shots, and the DoT was nice
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 23, 2017 12:42:11 GMT
Do these petitions ever work? No. This is purely a cathartic exercise. I doubt even OP expected Bioware would ever see this, let alone be persuaded. Bioware: "We had these months-in-advance plans about how to release content for the game, but a bunch of jackasses on the Internet said we should release everything in a blaze of glory. YOLO! We're doing it!"
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Post by Doc Pirahna on Aug 23, 2017 12:57:28 GMT
We ruined it. Now we get nothing until N7 day.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 23, 2017 13:01:34 GMT
We ruined it. Now we get nothing until N7 day. Repent! The end is nigh there!
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 23, 2017 13:23:04 GMT
Oh MAN! I really missed the opportunity to cosplay as the Batarian preacher during the eclipse.
Will try to remember for 7 years from now.
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Post by poultrymancer on Aug 23, 2017 14:03:54 GMT
No. This is purely a cathartic exercise. I doubt even OP expected Bioware would ever see this, let alone be persuaded. Bioware: "We had these months-in-advance plans about how to release content for the game, but a bunch of jackasses on the Internet said we should release everything in a blaze of glory. YOLO! We're doing it!" On the one hand, this forum has some advantages relative to most online "petitions" in that: (a) its intended readers have at least on occasion been know to view and accept feedback from this site; and ( it's localized, not floating around from sender to sender or Facebook feed to Facebook feed, expressing as hundreds of different fractured lists of signatories.. But those advantages are rendered entirely moot by the fact that, even if every single developer left supporting this game were wholly persuaded, EA has the ultimate authority in mapping content releases. And even if that were not the case, a poll showing that 85% of 60 players* want a thing is (I hope) such an incredibly small drop in the bucket comprising the extant playerbase as to be not worth noting. *The funniest aspect of this poll to me isn't that it's pointless, it's that nine people are still like, "nah, I wanna wait. November seems like a good time to get the Commando."
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Post by zigosid on Aug 23, 2017 14:32:35 GMT
Going faster to release new content, as we have been asking for months, would already be a good thing ...
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Post by mrfuddyduddy on Aug 23, 2017 15:35:31 GMT
Didn't Andromeda actually sell better than every other Mass Effect in the franchise? There cutting this turd loose because of how poorly received and criticized it was, not because of how bad it sold. From CFO Blake Jorgensen: "Year-on-year growth was driven by the Mass Effect Andromeda sales, captured in the quarter and by FIFA,” Jorgensen said. “Digital net sales were $681 million, a new record for the first quarter, and up $113 million on the year-ago period. The increase reflects strength in live services, together with our mobile business. In addition, Mass Effect Andromeda was a significant contributor. Full game PC and console downloads generated net sales of $111 million, 32% higher than last year. This was driven by Mass Effect Andromeda sales captured in the quarter.” I took this from a Forbes article written back in July From my perspective EA/Bioware Montreal are just a bunch of b**** made SJW's that couldn't deal with some criticism and decided to give up instead of trying to make sh** right. I mean just look at No Mans Sky or The Division, both of these games sold INCREDIBLY well, were HORRIBLY received and are both STILL being supported today. EA/ Bioware was just like "OhHhhH no they don't like it, shut down everything we have to pretend this game didn't exist... Never mind how good it sold we need to jump ship before it gets worse!" I already explained this elsewhere. They're not saying MEA met sales projections there. They're saying revenue as a whole is up YoY this quarter 10% and that it was comprised primarily of revenue from FIFA and MEA. That's actually not a good sign considering there were no comparably large releases in the same period last year, and they conspicuously don't specify how much MEA contributed. A company doesn't reassign an entire studio and cancel years' worth of planned sequels and DLC that was likely already in the works just because it's butthurt about mean things said in reviews. Obviously sales and sales projections were affected. True, Mass Effect Andromeda also had a very rough development cycle. They played around with a procedural generated world for a while didn't they? That alone must have taken up a few years of development only to scrap everything related to it later on.(They still should have kept it in though IMO, how f***ing awesome would it have been to be able to land on and explore a potentially endless amount of worlds beside the content we already got) I still think poor reception still played a huge part, probably figured with the long time wasted in development they wouldn't turn enough of a profit releasing a major content expansions if most people didn't enjoy the game and would there for be less likely to buy whatever content they released.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 23, 2017 16:39:56 GMT
PROCEDURAL GENERATION DOESN'T WORK FOR AAA RPGS.
Name me one counter-example.
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Post by shinobiwan on Aug 23, 2017 16:48:58 GMT
PROCEDURAL GENERATION DOESN'T WORK FOR AAA RPGS. Name me one counter-example. Diablo 2
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Post by mrfuddyduddy on Aug 23, 2017 17:01:59 GMT
Do these petitions ever work? Probably not, but it couldn't hurt. I'm sure many of us now would rather they just release the rest of the sh** they have planned all at once with maybe 1 or 2 patches/balance changes following than continue to be drip fed 1-2 things the next couple months.
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Post by poultrymancer on Aug 23, 2017 17:08:35 GMT
Do these petitions ever work? Probably not, but it couldn't hurt. I'm sure many of us now would rather they just release the rest of the sh** they have planned all at once with maybe 1 or 2 patches/balance changes following than continue to be drip fed 1-2 things the next couple months. I'm gonna laugh my ass off if they do release the remaining content together and people here actually think we had a hand in it. If it happens, it'll be because they're retasking the last few people away from MEA, not because 50 people voted for it on BSN.
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Post by tatann on Aug 23, 2017 17:53:52 GMT
PROCEDURAL GENERATION DOESN'T WORK FOR AAA RPGS. Name me one counter-example. Diablo 2 Also Torchlight (from the guys who made Diablo 2), maybe not AAA, but at least AA
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 23, 2017 17:55:47 GMT
Hmm, I should've specified I meant "real" RPGs not action RPGs. But I will eat my crow nonetheless.
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Post by tatann on Aug 23, 2017 19:19:55 GMT
Hmm, I should've specified I meant "real" RPGs not action RPGs. But I will eat my crow nonetheless. Mass Effect is an action RPG
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Post by shinobiwan on Aug 23, 2017 19:37:53 GMT
Hmm, I should've specified I meant "real" RPGs not action RPGs. But I will eat my crow nonetheless. Mass Effect is an action RPG Also unclear how MEA is more of a "real" rpg than D2. He claims to be eating crow, but I still hear it squawking.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 23, 2017 20:28:05 GMT
Hmm, I should've specified I meant "real" RPGs not action RPGs. But I will eat my crow nonetheless. Mass Effect is an action RPG DAI is an action RPG. Mass Effect (1) used to be a real RPG, then 2 came along and fucked everything up.
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Post by The Joe-Man on Aug 23, 2017 20:32:49 GMT
Mass Effect is an action RPG DAI is an action RPG. Mass Effect (1) used to be a real RPG, then 2 came along and fucked everything up. ME2 was superior in every way. The biggest issues I have with Andromeda is how they went back to ME1s ridiculous RPG loot and inventory system. It was a HUGE step backwards.
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Post by poultrymancer on Aug 23, 2017 20:39:32 GMT
DAI is an action RPG. Mass Effect (1) used to be a real RPG, then 2 came along and fucked everything up. ME2 was superior in every way. The biggest issues I have with Andromeda is how they went back to ME1s ridiculous RPG loot and inventory system. It was a HUGE step backwards. That's entirely subjective. (But also false.)
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