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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 21, 2017 15:07:06 GMT

On another board, someone posted this link. It was suggested that there was never any intention of having DLC for MEA. Don't know if it's true but that's what is now being said.

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Post by ioannisdenton on Aug 21, 2017 15:11:36 GMT

maybe and thats why no season pass was released even though bioware never released aseason pass but in andromeda they made a statement for it. But i bet my ass if the game sold way better and the idiotic base of gamers actully were not running the hate campaign then DLC absolutely would be made since 5 hours max dlc = easy money for 15-20 euros/dollars

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Aug 21, 2017 18:55:15 GMT @scepsis said:

There were way to many DLC hooks for BW to not have planned any. DLC had to be planned, but ME:A failed and BW dropped support. Hence the lack of DLC.

I just don't understand then, what does a "financial success" really mean then in EA's eyes? But clearly not enough to produce dlc?

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Post by ShadowAngel on Aug 21, 2017 19:03:42 GMT

Aug 21, 2017 19:00:02 GMT Andrew Waples said:

Aug 21, 2017 18:55:15 GMT @scepsis said:

There were way to many DLC hooks for BW to not have planned any. DLC had to be planned, but ME:A failed and BW dropped support. Hence the lack of DLC.

I just don't understand then, what does a "financial success" really mean then in EA's eyes? But clearly not enough to produce dlc?

Probably just turned out even and nothing more. It's not very often that you see a triple A title not get DLC, I'd have to look just to find one cause that's how unheard of it is for me.

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Post by cypherj on Aug 21, 2017 19:05:50 GMT

Don't see any way a company would make a decision ahead of time not to release any additional SP content no matter how well the game was received or performed. If the market and the profitability was there I'm sure the game would have gotten SP DLC.

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Aug 21, 2017 19:03:42 GMT ShadowAngel said:

Aug 21, 2017 19:00:02 GMT Andrew Waples said:

I just don't understand then, what does a "financial success" really mean then in EA's eyes? But clearly not enough to produce dlc?

Probably just turned out even and nothing more. It's not very often that you see a triple A title not get DLC, I'd have to look just to find one cause that's how unheard of it is for me.

Well Naughty Dog didn't for the longest time, though you could make an argument that Lost Legacy is a "brand new game"

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Aug 21, 2017 19:05:50 GMT cypherj said:

Don't see any way a company would make a decision ahead of time not to release any additional SP content no matter how well the game was received or performed. If the market and the profitability was there I'm sure the game would have gotten SP DLC.

Unless their intention was to base it solely off of MP Apex Missions from the beginning. That type of an announcement would have hurt sales for sure.

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Post by cypherj on Aug 21, 2017 19:10:10 GMT

Aug 21, 2017 19:00:02 GMT Andrew Waples said:

Aug 21, 2017 18:55:15 GMT @scepsis said:

There were way to many DLC hooks for BW to not have planned any. DLC had to be planned, but ME:A failed and BW dropped support. Hence the lack of DLC.

I just don't understand then, what does a "financial success" really mean then in EA's eyes? But clearly not enough to produce dlc?

ME:A could have made money. However, if the game sold well early of the popularity of the original trilogy, and then didn't perform up to where they wanted after that, they may have felt it better the get up from the table and take the money they made instead of putting money back into ME:A and risking taking a loss on the DLC.

If their data shows that a lot of people didn't finish the game, or haven't played it in months than the market for DLC wouldn't be there even if the game did have good initial sales.

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Aug 21, 2017 19:05:50 GMT cypherj said:

Don't see any way a company would make a decision ahead of time not to release any additional SP content no matter how well the game was received or performed. If the market and the profitability was there I'm sure the game would have gotten SP DLC.

Same as Rockstar did with GTAV. They focussed on MP and I'm pretty sure that's what EA wanted. It seems to fit the current strategy.

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Post by Andrew Waples on Aug 21, 2017 19:15:11 GMT

Aug 21, 2017 19:05:50 GMT cypherj said:

Don't see any way a company would make a decision ahead of time not to release any additional SP content no matter how well the game was received or performed. If the market and the profitability was there I'm sure the game would have gotten SP DLC.

The only thing I could think of is that a 2-3 hr doesn't make any sense when the game is about exploration & discovery. Which would require them to make an Awakening style expansion; which means more man hours, time and resources to "fit" the rest of the game.

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Post by cypherj on Aug 21, 2017 19:18:33 GMT

Aug 21, 2017 19:09:24 GMT @endless said:

Aug 21, 2017 19:05:50 GMT cypherj said:

Don't see any way a company would make a decision ahead of time not to release any additional SP content no matter how well the game was received or performed. If the market and the profitability was there I'm sure the game would have gotten SP DLC.

Unless their intention was to base it solely off of MP Apex Missions from the beginning. That type of an announcement would have hurt sales for sure.

That wouldn't make any sense though. Shepard's trilogy is over and many thought with it the series. So when you put out Andromeda you're trying to re-establish the series and have it gain traction for future releases. So saying we're not putting out any additional SP content regardless of how well the game does isn't accomplishing this. If anything the plan would have been release the game, if it's well received, release DLC, and go right into the next game like they did with Dragon Age. Strike while the iron is hot.

Now if they were never going to continue the series as a whole regardless, or the next game is going to be ME Online, then yeah it would make sense then. But if you're going to continue the SP franchise it makes no sense.

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Aug 21, 2017 19:18:33 GMT cypherj said:

Aug 21, 2017 19:09:24 GMT @endless said:

Unless their intention was to base it solely off of MP Apex Missions from the beginning. That type of an announcement would have hurt sales for sure.

That wouldn't make any sense though. Shepard's trilogy is over and many thought with it the series. So when you put out Andromeda you're trying to re-establish the series and have it gain traction for future releases. So saying we're not putting out any additional SP content regardless of how well the game does isn't accomplishing this. If anything the plan would have been release the game, if it's well received, release DLC, and go right into the next game like they did with Dragon Age. Strike while the iron is hot.

Now if they were never going to continue the series as a whole regardless, or the next game is going to be ME Online, then yeah it would make sense then. But if you're going to continue the SP franchise it makes no sense.

Since the release of Mass Effect™: Andromeda, we’ve worked hard to address feedback from our community. From improving animations to expanding customization options, we looked to respond to your concerns, and build on what you loved.

With each patch, you let us know we were heading in the right direction, and we're grateful to everyone who joined us on this journey. We're proud of what we created, and we hope you enjoyed it as well.

Early in development, we decided to focus Mass Effect: Andromeda’s story on the Pathfinder, the exploration of the Andromeda galaxy, and the conflict with the Archon. The game was designed to further expand on the Pathfinder’s journey through this new galaxy with story-based APEX multiplayer missions and we will continue to tell stories in the Andromeda Galaxy through our upcoming comics and novels, including the fate of the quarian ark.

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MEA DLC never planned? Aug 21, 2017 19:27:42 GMT

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Post by LogicGunn on Aug 21, 2017 19:27:42 GMT

There are a lot of things in Andromeda that could be a spring board for DLC, so I suspect that somewhere in development it was pencilled in, but whether or not it was started is another matter.

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Aug 21, 2017 19:23:39 GMT @endless said:

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Early in development, we decided to focus Mass Effect: Andromeda’s story on the Pathfinder, the exploration of the Andromeda galaxy, and the conflict with the Archon. The game was designed to further expand on the Pathfinder’s journey through this new galaxy with story-based APEX multiplayer missions and we will continue to tell stories in the Andromeda Galaxy through our upcoming comics and novels, including the fate of the quarian ark.

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That's all the proof I need. Straight from Bioware's mouth.

If this is indeed true it could pretty much foreshadow what to expect of Anthem.

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Aug 21, 2017 19:31:50 GMT Pounce de León said:

Aug 21, 2017 19:23:39 GMT @endless said:

That's all the proof I need. Straight from Bioware's mouth.

If this is indeed true it could pretty much foreshadow what to expect of Anthem.

Anthem is a full-on multiplayer game so its to be expected. DA4 would be the one I'm more worried about though, but I honestly doubt it would happen.

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Post by ariatloak on Aug 21, 2017 19:35:41 GMT

It wouldn't surprise me, even though it's very strange for an AAA game from Bioware, because the game had an unprecedentedly bad level of development. I truly believe all the reports about the game basically being overhauled completely a year from release, obviously it was delayed multiple times, I think it's certainly possible many people involved at the inner level secretly did not expect dlc to be profitable

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Aug 21, 2017 19:31:50 GMT Pounce de León said:

Aug 21, 2017 19:23:39 GMT @endless said:

If this is indeed true it could pretty much foreshadow what to expect of Anthem.

They're making no secret what Anthem is all about. Was it Online experience? Something along these lines. Nothing that keeps me interested in any case.

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Post by Serza on Aug 21, 2017 19:42:33 GMT

There are similarities with Inquisition that lead me to believe that once upon a time, they assumed they would make SOME sort of DLC.

So no. It was planned, but dropped. Likely due to reception.

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Post by Garo on Aug 21, 2017 19:43:34 GMT

It doesn't make sense. They literally baited DLC in game and Inquisition had like 3.

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Post by cypherj on Aug 21, 2017 19:45:36 GMT

Aug 21, 2017 19:23:39 GMT @endless said:

Aug 21, 2017 19:18:33 GMT cypherj said:

That wouldn't make any sense though. Shepard's trilogy is over and many thought with it the series. So when you put out Andromeda you're trying to re-establish the series and have it gain traction for future releases. So saying we're not putting out any additional SP content regardless of how well the game does isn't accomplishing this. If anything the plan would have been release the game, if it's well received, release DLC, and go right into the next game like they did with Dragon Age. Strike while the iron is hot.

Now if they were never going to continue the series as a whole regardless, or the next game is going to be ME Online, then yeah it would make sense then. But if you're going to continue the SP franchise it makes no sense.

Since the release of Mass Effect™: Andromeda, we’ve worked hard to address feedback from our community. From improving animations to expanding customization options, we looked to respond to your concerns, and build on what you loved.

With each patch, you let us know we were heading in the right direction, and we're grateful to everyone who joined us on this journey. We're proud of what we created, and we hope you enjoyed it as well.

Early in development, we decided to focus Mass Effect: Andromeda’s story on the Pathfinder, the exploration of the Andromeda galaxy, and the conflict with the Archon. The game was designed to further expand on the Pathfinder’s journey through this new galaxy with story-based APEX multiplayer missions and we will continue to tell stories in the Andromeda Galaxy through our upcoming comics and novels, including the fate of the quarian ark.

Our last update, 1.10, was the final update for Mass Effect: Andromeda. There are no planned future patches for single-player or in-game story content.

In the coming weeks, our multiplayer team will provide details of their ongoing support and upcoming content, including new multiplayer missions, character kits, and what’s in store for N7 Day.

We appreciate all the millions of people who came with us to the Andromeda galaxy. We hope to see you again in the Mass Effect universe.

The Mass Effect Andromeda Team

That's all the proof I need. Straight from Bioware's mouth.

Whenever people quote press releases I always wonder what they thought the company was going to say.

"The game didn't live up to our expectations so we're cutting our loses and not releasing any more SP content."

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Post by abaris on Aug 21, 2017 19:47:58 GMT

Aug 21, 2017 19:45:36 GMT cypherj said:

Whenever people quote press releases I always wonder what they thought the company was going to say.

"The game didn't live up to our expectations so we're cutting our loses and not releasing any more SP content."

This one makes sense. As I said, I always took their promotions as aggressively pushing MP.

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Aug 21, 2017 19:45:36 GMT cypherj said:

Aug 21, 2017 19:23:39 GMT @endless said:

That's all the proof I need. Straight from Bioware's mouth.

Whenever people quote press releases I always wonder what they thought the company was going to say.

"The game didn't live up to our expectations so we're cutting our loses and not releasing any more SP content."

I don't get what exactly your saying here pertaining to the discussion? They said more than I'd ever thought they would. The fact that Bioware gave us some history on what their plans were blows my mind. I thought for sure that they wouldn't have confirmed or denied any dlc until people fully gave up hope and even then...

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Post by SofNascimento on Aug 21, 2017 19:57:50 GMT

That's surprising. I always thought it was absurd to believe Andromeda would never be meant to have DLC, especially with all the cliffhangers. But it seems that was the case...

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Aug 21, 2017 15:11:36 GMT ioannisdenton said:

maybe and thats why no season pass was released even though bioware never released aseason pass but in andromeda they made a statement for it. But i bet my ass if the game sold way better and the idiotic base of gamers actully were not running the hate campaign then DLC absolutely would be made since 5 hours max dlc = easy money for 15-20 euros/dollars

What kind of bizarre capitalist logic is it that people are obligated to buy and be uncritical of something they don't like so that a corporation can make more money off of the thing they didn't enjoy that much? Those idiots, expressing views about products they didn't like.

No wonder people stopped making CoD games, the way the internet shits on them all the time. Poor Activision.

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