Everything done wrong with MEA:MP - a community anthology (prep for eulogy) Edit: right/good also w

I am a scrub, so for me the only issue with the Andromeda MP is the underinvestment of resources in the module. There are not enough maps, and there are not enough playable kits with at least the cosmetic variety.

New maps introduced post-release were of a higher quality and far more creative than the original batch. So were the Batarian kits. That got me very excited and hopefull.

If BioWARE continued it that way building up map library, perhaps introducing more events like Into the Ruins, and bringing in 3 to 4 more playable races (resulting in 8 to 16 more kits), I would be happy with the state of the game as a casual scrub that enjoys the RP aspect of the MP (ever an oddball).

I found that after the initial shock of 1.09 my perception of the game stabilized, and once I have tapped into the veteran bonuses on the Common and Uncommon levels, and started unlocking variant weapons for Uncommon level, I actually got to a comfortable spot where I would continue to play happily on my level without having a nervous break-down every time I look at the manifest.

I like some of the Uncommon Guns, and variants actually are kindda cool (don't hit me, pls).
And I love it that with Veteran bonuses my chars are unkillable on Bronze allowing for a crazy playstyle for a scrub, heh, and that they also allow me to play Gold.

It is the "not another Sandstorm" that is now a problem. I thought it would be temporary state of affairs, and we'll get maps & kits, but I doubt it. As it is right now (plus 4 kits) I am going to tap out even if I only going to play three to five games per day.

i think the most important thein is that The Multiplayer in Andromeda is not COOPerative!

everyone is running and shooting, like an idiotic generic "shoot 'em up" or third peson shooter
that's it!

i posted a thread about it bsn.boards.net/thread/5202/where-cooperation

Some missing stuff from ME3:

-Hazard Maps
-Drell, Quarian, Vorcha, Volus, 'Geth'
-Revive sound
-Grenade variety
-Some ammo types
-Enemy Barriers
-Escort objective

Leaving out some stuff from ME3 is excusable, but its like they compiled a check-list of the very best things from ME3 so that they could either exclude or ruin them: Claymore, Raider, grabs, Asari heavy-melee, proper Venoming, Cluster Grenades, Drell/Vorcha/Volus, the list goes on.

Yeah that's just completely incomprehensible to me, if you're going to include ANY guns from ME3 how do you not include the freakin' Claymore ferfucksake? 

Also, on the topic of banter: RIP good teammate banter... Curse you! Clean work! Big monster! 

That's...  Dumb...

Learn how to use audacity and leave the devs to their very busy work of not doing the things they should..

There is a new Raider now mate, it's the Shorty!

I think there are more than enough cooperative power evos/(de-)buffs in the game (perhaps more than in ME3MP). The fact that people run around and shoot instead is just that: people.

Also, that means us...

patch 1.09

Stagger. I shouldn't get fucking counter punched while shooting a Sharpshooter with a goddamned Ruzad and neither should their mini superman punch interrupt a krogan headbutting them at full force.

Voiceovers/sounds. There are very few audio cues and it hurts that they're typically low aside from Adhi barking and Ascendant teleporting. It's also rare to hear an enemy speak as the gunfire sound is so ridiculously prioritized over all other noises. I like the music when it plays and the sound of explosions are great. On the other hand, most gunfire is the same per class. All pistols with 2-3 exceptions have the same sound. Same with ARs. Same with Shotguns and Sniper Rifles. It's cheap and takes away from the unique feel of the ME2 and ME3 weapons.

Melee. Lacks impact with most hits as again, most enemies ignore it or just get staggered for half a second. Lack of variety as well because aside from angara and krogan, they all have the same animation with different lighting effects. Even worse, heavy melee was taken away because "it took too long." IT TAKES 5 SECONDS TO RELOAD A FUCKING SINGLE SHOT SNIPER RIFLE!!!!

Bloated manifest. The variants were a good idea, for a very limited amount of guns (1 per class with a unique gun model) OR a weapon attachment. This is the primary reason why the community sunk a bit. Too much garbage in the way of things that matter.

Drip drop content unlocks. Yay... 1 character per 6 weeks and 1 map every 8 weeks... BORING. I'd rather get a pack of content if new content is to be added at such a rate. As has been iterated, when we got news of each dlc, EVERYONE got hyped. 2 new maps, 4 or more new characters, and 2+ new weapons! And they were ALL NEW (with some reused skins in Retaliation). It was exciting and most of all, they weren't locked behind the UR door.

N7 Weekend > Apex Day. Apex got old fast an was so tone deaf... Weekend Operations had not just guaranteed N7 guns and increased XP but it also had INTERACTION. The ME3MP crew hopped on and played with us. The players had a goal to reach with actual consequences that affected the game. Failed brute Operation? Now you get 2 more per wave budget. Didn't quite wipe out enough banshees? Now they spawn with all factions. More people were invested and it lined up with dlc and the story. It felt like we were fighting a galactic war. Apex missions just seem detached and low energy.

Grabs. What do you mean I can't grab this gu-WHATTHEFUCKWHYAMIBEINGBITTENBYADOG? You spend half each match getting fucked in the ass by some dog or drone. If I want to get fondled constantly in a game I'll go play RE5 on No Mercy mode.

Ammo mods and debuff powers. So apparently, cyo effects don't mix or match nor does incendiary rounds or incinerate. You debuff a boss, then someone with Cryo ammo inadvertedly cancels it out while Incendiary ammo completely stop the cryo effects. The fuck?



All in all, there's more stuff to add, but in the end they had ONE job. Take ME3MP and IMPROVE it with more content and features. They failed spectacularly. I still find it fun with friends but it could have been so much more.

Well it at least did a few things right between all the shortcomings, or else you people wouldn't still be here. The hating on the game, or the devs is a bit too passionate for people to just bury it as a failure nobody will ever discuss again. There are many parallels between the backlash on Andromeda and on Mass Effect 3's ending.
I'm not defending 1.09: It's one of those not well thought-true additions which must have looked brilliant on paper. And for many people here it seems that it was the final nail in the coffIN, foregoing all hope that things would improve.

Personally I'm just pissed off about last Saturday's news, because it will have it's resonance on multiplayer as well (and I am one out of three people actually enjoying the campaign).

It is a possibility that you list both the wrongs and the rights though. I would approve of that...