Upcoming characters and skill trees images (PART 2) HYPE!

The Guardian looks like a fishbowl dressed in pajamas.
The Artificial looks like something that stepped out of Hellraiser.
Commando & Human Puggy though look fucking badass. (I mean you can't go wrong with an ME3 re-skin!).

"WARP THAT SHIT!"
Yes sir! I will be doing that a lot.

Omg, juggernaut looks so distractingly good for a character in closed faced helmet! The rest are too similar to what's already in the game. Thursday, I guess?

Heh, as long as they release it. Would love to see them in the lobbies, even if I won't play any of it myself.

Looks absolutely badass, and great powers too. Let's just hope he doesn't sound like Napoleon Dynamite or Atreyu from Neverending Story.

I loved that armour set in SP. once I maxed it out, I did not wear anything else. But w/o helmet. It customizes well too, nice lights accents.

Ah, I still can't get over the commando = BFG from SWTOR, so not impressed

Assuming the numbers remain the same (of course they could change), quick thoughts:

Warp is very disappointing. It's like really bad versions of incinerate and Snap freeze stapled together. The debuff I think should have been much better since it's single target - compared to invasion the 15% all + 20% vs armor is really bad. Compared to Snap/cryo beam it's way worse. And it's really a kick in the nuts that neither warp kit has offensive biotics, which makes the debuff generally worse than things like human adept's singularity and only slightly better vs armor. The fact that it's a detonator and thus removes much better armor debuffs and DOTs is another huge problem for the power. The damage is abysmal compared to incinerate unless escalate works in a funky way. So in sum it sucks at being either of it's halves and cancels better powers to boot. Its only draw is being a primer/detonator but at this point it's clear that combos aren't a great core strategy or source of damage, and being a detonator is an active liability in this meta.

As applied, that makes the guardian and commando lackluster. Guardian is basically a worse salarian operative with warp instead of invasion (invasion is much better), backlash (useless on plat) vs overload (useful for CC'ing berserkers, anointed etc.), and much worse passives except for maybe saving barrier. Commando seems like a worse human Adept, and I'm not that high in the human Adept. I'll gladly trade turbocharge for a 20% debuff vs everyone affected by singularity. Again, I don't consider the extra combo potential to be much of a perk.

Artificer is insane. Would have been a top tier platinum kit with just cryo beam and invasion. Now it has one of the best passives in the game with a perpetual mini shield boost and the ability to stun dogs and anyone else that gets close, all without you doing anything. RVI draws aggro even as a 1-pointer. Elemental tech gives insane weapon damage vs fatties.

Artificer is the Turian Ghost of this game. Even if they nerf the shit out of that passive before launch, that'll be true.

Juggernaut also seems really good if it's easy to keep the passive charged. Perpetual 160 DR plus 700 base health with a Siphon weapon is going to provide really nice durability, especially if he can reliably get periods of invuln (probably not too often on plat but it's a useful option to be able to buy some time by gunning down a mook in a pinch). Fills the same role as the Scrapper but with an interesting lean that plays differently. I'm a fan.

My platinum builds for now:


Artificer
Cryo Beam: recharge, brittle, trap
RVI: 1 point
Invasion: outbreak, weaken, virulence
Offensive Tech: powers, anti armor, Elemental tech
Drone: recharge, defense systems, support
Gear: relevant weapon damage gear
Boosters: weapon rail amp, disruptor ammo


Juggernaut
Snap Freeze: reach, brittle, anti armor
Fortification: DR, either, purge
Shockwave: lol one point
Apex Training: weapons, headshots, weapons
Remnant Armor: regen, defense, duration
Gear: relevant weapon damage gear
Boosters: weapon rail amp, disruptor ammo
Weapon: Siphon is especially important here because the health drain is effectively multiplied thanks to his high DR.


Guardian
Shield Boost: restoration, recharge speed, duration
Warp: recharge, expose, double
Backlash: one point
Apex training: weapons, headshots, weapons[ br]Barrier: max shields, movement speed, saving barrier
Gear: pertinent weapon damage gear, +shield gear might also work
Boosters: recharge speed, weapon damage, any ammo, +shields are all good.
Note: a power damage build might be useful if escalate turns out to be good. Need more info on how it works. Melee build might also work on gold and below with combined health and shield steal.


Commando: play human Adept instead, unless escalate turns out to be good or you really like human Adept but prefer more weapon damage over a debuff the entire team can use.

I have nothing to contribute here. I just want to express my erection over your profile picture. The true north remembers! Ramsay may have been poisoned by the Starks in the Show, but in the books, he is alive and healthy. #fuckthestarks

I don't care which one really (nah, I'm kidding, I prefer one over the rest... COMMANDO!!!! ), but I am on the more "complete" side of MP unfortunately. And want a new character to main on (at least until I get back to my Kineticist) whilst I work on getting to variant UR weapons (other than that blasted Valkyrie... bleh).

So I'd like ANY kit to drop soon (so long as they don't increase Heatlh Bonus that is... ).

*ahem* COMMANDO!

My question is why the hell the commando has a skin color slider, even though the only way to see skin, if anything, is through that slit of a visor.