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Post by shinary on Oct 8, 2017 10:53:07 GMT
Hi everyone. I hope you can help me. I have had to reinstall origins and have been remodding it. For some reason I can't get this mod ( Alistair dialog patch www.nexusmods.com/dragonage/mods/630/?) to work even though it has worked before. From what I can tell it is installed correctly. It is in the right folders and I can see it inside the game under "downloads", where it is enabled. Have anyone else had issues with this? Other mods installed in case there are known conflicts I am not aware of: - ZDF Dialog Fix (I ahve had this installed before though, without any issues).
- Tmps Mild Romance Scenes
- Alistair's Dark Ritual
There are some extra hairs, but I can't imagine why they would cause a conflict.
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Post by theskymoves on Oct 9, 2017 4:02:39 GMT
Summary of what I wrote over @ the Nexus to your query there:
I've never used Lady Olivia's a Alistair patch - or at most I may have used it very briefly, years and years ago - so I'm just guessing here, but if it edits alistair_main.dlg/dlb (as I'm sure it must, since that's where the vast majority of Alistair's dialogue is), you have two other mods listed (tmp's romance scenes and ZDF) that also contain alistair_main files.
In modding DAO, the game will only recognize and use one iteration of a file. Any others will be ignored... and since tmp's mod is in override, it will take precedence over anything installed as a DAzip. (Likewise ZDF, depending on how that was installed.)
You could remove the alistair_main files from ZDF (if it is in override), but you'd still have tmp's mod overriding Lady Olivia.... there's no way around that, since removing tmp's alistair_main would also remove the 'trigger' for the cutscenes.
tl; dr: You can only use one mod that affects alistair_main.dlg and alistair_main.dlb, and you have at least two and possibly as many as three.
(And you are correct, hair mods wouldn't have conflicts with dialogue mods.)
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Post by Norstaera on Oct 11, 2017 15:45:05 GMT
You didn't say whether you used the .dazip version. theskymoves is correct, if you installed the .dazip version of the Alistair mod, then you need to examine the list of files LadyOlivia changed, and remove those from ZDF and Mild Romance. I've never used LadyOlivia's file either, but I have used "Improved Romance Scenes - Alistair" with "Mild Romance Scenes (MRS)", "ZDF", and "Morrigan Restoration Patch". If "Alistair Dialog Patch" worked for you before, you must have removed the conflicting files from "MRS".
Sometimes what I do when I want to make sure Mod A takes precedence over Mod B, I'll rename the folder in ...core/override. The folder for "Alistair dialog patch" becomes "zz-Alistair dialog patch" (I'm assuming the manual installation is all override). Since DAO checks the override in reverse alphabetical order, any files in this folder will be used and the ones in "MRS" with the same name will be ignored.
I don't know if you use DAMM (Dragon Age Mod Manager), but it does have a create .override feature. If you use the manual installation of "ADP", then you can combine it with the other mods in DAMM to create a new .override file. If you have conflicting files, you won't be able to create the .override. The advantage to this is that once you create it, you won't have to recreate for later playthroughs.
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Post by theskymoves on Oct 11, 2017 22:46:14 GMT
I was curious enough to download Lady Olivia's mod, and it does use alistair_main.dlg/dlb; it's definitely not compatible with Mild Romance Scenes. (Removing the alistair_main files from tmp's mod will negate installing it, at least for the purposes of romancing Alistair... the scenes for Leliana might still work, though.)
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Post by Norstaera on Oct 12, 2017 2:15:17 GMT
They will work for a Leliana romance. I have to do the same thing when I use IRS-A with MRS, delete the Alistair_main files from MRS. At least one of IRS-A, MRS, or ZDF has instructions on how to make them compatible. I would suggest checking the instructions for those mods to get some light on how to make Alistair dialog patch compatible.
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Post by Nimlowyn on Oct 19, 2017 15:01:56 GMT
For what it's worth, I installed Lady Olivia's mod last night and despite following the short and sweet instructions, it did not work. No mod compatibility issues, because it is currently my only mod.
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