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Post by CHRrOME on Mar 17, 2019 13:10:47 GMT
There's been lots of fake news, biased and paid-off reviews in the last decade (coughDianaAllerscoughGG2014cough) ... and shady practices getting justified by dem journalists doesn't help either tbh (not ready games being released fine, DLCs good, activism, etc.). That's because they are not real journalists. They were critics, bloggers, columnists, reviewers, whatever. Commenting on stuff. Schreier is the first one doing actual journalism, revealing things. That should be encouraged. I don't really like Schreier as a person myself, he has blamed things on "gamers" on the past, he is totally fine with lootboxes for instance. However, putting that aside and based on his journalism (which is the important bit here), he does a really good job, probably the best. He warned us about F76, I think he was the one who got hands on the leak script for FO4 also, etc. So, really no complaints with his job. It's pretty accurate and well done.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 17, 2019 15:00:46 GMT
It's not like gamers don't deserve to be blamed for stuff.
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Post by OdanUrr on Mar 17, 2019 15:37:52 GMT
Just stumbled upon this on the Origin Store: It strikes me as odd that they seem to be promoting their Origin Access programs rather than encouraging people to buy the actual game. How do OA subscriptions count towards sales totals, if they count at all? In fact, why limit it to the OA programs at all? Why not state, "Play Anthem between these dates and get X reward" instead? It's possible there'll be similar rewards for OA members in the coming months, but I found the dates suggestive.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 17, 2019 16:18:02 GMT
It's not like gamers don't deserve to be blamed for stuff. Which gamers? That’s a pretty broad brush to tar people with.
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Post by Lazarillo on Mar 17, 2019 16:35:08 GMT
Why not state, "Play Anthem between these dates and get X reward" instead? I would assume because you have to pay extra for Origin Access, but there aren't any recurring payments for Anthem itself, are there?
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Post by OdanUrr on Mar 17, 2019 16:39:36 GMT
Why not state, "Play Anthem between these dates and get X reward" instead? I would assume because you have to pay extra for Origin Access, but there aren't any recurring payments for Anthem itself, are there? If you pay one month of Origin Access Premier, you get to beat the game for $15. That's considerably less than the $60 for owning the game.
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Post by Lazarillo on Mar 17, 2019 17:10:35 GMT
If you pay one month of Origin Access Premier, you get to beat the game for $15. That's considerably less than the $60 for owning the game. Didn't realize the game was free that way. Although that seems to me like all the more reason they'd try to get people to contribute to the ongoing revenue platform, if they didn't get the same up-front payment.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 17, 2019 18:17:13 GMT
It's not like gamers don't deserve to be blamed for stuff. Which gamers? That’s a pretty broad brush to tar people with. Sure, but so what? I'm not particularly concerned with being tarred, by Schreier or anyone else. And honestly, we've got a lot of douchebags in this demographic. I'm more likely to be embarrassed by my fellow gamers than to be miffed by people insulting gamers.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 17, 2019 18:22:59 GMT
It strikes me as odd that they seem to be promoting their Origin Access programs rather than encouraging people to buy the actual game. How do OA subscriptions count towards sales totals, if they count at all? In fact, why limit it to the OA programs at all? Why not state, "Play Anthem between these dates and get X reward" instead? It's possible there'll be similar rewards for OA members in the coming months, but I found the dates suggestive. The point of pushing OA is that they hope it'll be sticky. Some percentage of users will just stay in the program. As for sales totals, I imagine they're not particularly concerned by it. Either route is revenue.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 20:00:47 GMT
Which gamers? That’s a pretty broad brush to tar people with. Sure, but so what? I'm not particularly concerned with being tarred, by Schreier or anyone else. And honestly, we've got a lot of douchebags in this demographic. I'm more likely to be embarrassed by my fellow gamers than to be miffed by people insulting gamers. Except demonizing your audience will cost you your potential business. People have long fucking memories.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 17, 2019 20:46:22 GMT
Is it actually hurting Schreier? I thought he was just getting some edgelord cred for speaking truth to assholes, or whatever it is he thinks he's doing.
Anyway, his problem, not mine.
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Post by CHRrOME on Mar 17, 2019 23:49:59 GMT
Well, they did nuke Prime BSN probably because of that. No surprises they come up with this BS. "No communication unless you're super nice and ass-kissing" Yeah... Sorry, people's money is on the line here and we are all pretty fed up with this industry's bullshit.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 18, 2019 1:13:42 GMT
It's not like gamers don't deserve to be blamed for stuff. oh, alan... Alan alan alan. What do you do for a living? Besides working for BioWare, or being a former employee? If you don't work for a gaming company, this is just a weird thing to say. Gamers surely do deserve blame for many things, but legitimate complaints about false advertising ain't one of them. Are you a consumer? If you are a consumer, then as a gamer you consume gaming products. When you consume other products that perform poorly you return them, you call their customer support, you use social media, etc... Right? Or do you just have endless money and concerns of budget and dollars well spent is entirely foreign to you? TL;dr What planet do you live on alanc9?
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Post by Obadiah on Mar 18, 2019 2:08:08 GMT
Heh, I just figured out what's been bothering me about the Weekly achievement.
It's actually morally repugnant to hand out awards for killing x number (500 in this case) of people of another faction (outlaws, Dominion, Scars). I'll probably stick to capturing territory, and responding to calls for assistance in Freeplay.
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Post by cypherj on Mar 18, 2019 2:47:07 GMT
Just stumbled upon this on the Origin Store: It strikes me as odd that they seem to be promoting their Origin Access programs rather than encouraging people to buy the actual game. How do OA subscriptions count towards sales totals, if they count at all? In fact, why limit it to the OA programs at all? Why not state, "Play Anthem between these dates and get X reward" instead? It's possible there'll be similar rewards for OA members in the coming months, but I found the dates suggestive. Companies will take recurring revenue over one time payments any day. Once you start a game like Anthem, you have to keep the service. If Anthem is a multi year plan with content being given out piecemeal, once you have the service more than five months EA is making money on you. Then if you decide you're not playing anything but Anthem and don't want to pay for the service, you have to buy Anthem anyway to keep your character. You have people that wil sign up, forget they have it and keep auto renewing for another month or year. People who may say Anthem LOD edition is $80,one year of the service is $100, I may as well just pay the extra $20 because I'll probably play some other games, but they never do. Then they're stuck with the service just to keep playing Anthem.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 18, 2019 3:03:56 GMT
Well, an Anthem player is probably going to find something on Premier he doesn't own but is worth playing.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 18, 2019 3:06:34 GMT
It's not like gamers don't deserve to be blamed for stuff. oh, alan... Alan alan alan. What do you do for a living? Besides working for BioWare, or being a former employee? If you don't work for a gaming company, this is just a weird thing to say. Gamers surely do deserve blame for many things, but legitimate complaints about false advertising ain't one of them. Are you a consumer? If you are a consumer, then as a gamer you consume gaming products. When you consume other products that perform poorly you return them, you call their customer support, you use social media, etc... Right? Or do you just have endless money and concerns of budget and dollars well spent is entirely foreign to you? TL;dr What planet do you live on alanc9 ? Where on earth did you get the idea that I meant "stuff"to include false advertising? I'd answer the post, but it seems to be so divorced from reality that I'm not sure it's worthwhile to bother.
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Post by majesticjazz on Mar 18, 2019 4:43:37 GMT
I'd answer the post, but it seems to be so divorced from reality that I'm not sure it's worthwhile to bother. Or its because he makes a solid point in which you have no solid answer to.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 18, 2019 5:18:57 GMT
Or its because he makes a solid point in which you have no solid answer to. Did he? What was it? He babbled something about legitimate claims of false advertising, but he didn't actually make the case about Schreier, let alone connect it to my post. If Schreier did somehow heap scorn on legitimate claims of false advertising, I haven't seen it. Edit: although I won't claim to have read all his stuff; honestly, I just read what folks link to here.
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Post by tatann on Mar 18, 2019 6:41:25 GMT
It's not like gamers don't deserve to be blamed for stuff. oh, alan... Alan alan alan. What do you do for a living? Besides working for BioWare, or being a former employee? If you don't work for a gaming company, this is just a weird thing to say. Gamers surely do deserve blame for many things, but legitimate complaints about false advertising ain't one of them. Are you a consumer? If you are a consumer, then as a gamer you consume gaming products. When you consume other products that perform poorly you return them, you call their customer support, you use social media, etc... Right? Or do you just have endless money and concerns of budget and dollars well spent is entirely foreign to you? TL;dr What planet do you live on alanc9? According to my user page, he seems to live on a planet named "Ignore List", but it doesn't tell me if it's in the Milky Way or Andromeda
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Post by cypherj on Mar 18, 2019 10:48:57 GMT
Well, an Anthem player is probably going to find something on Premier he doesn't own but is worth playing. Even better for EA. The more things that someone plays, the less they'll be willing to cancel because they don't want to lose access to them. Any game that the person would be playing is something they didn't buy the first time, even on discount. So money EA missed the first time they're getting now. Not to mention they're delivering it to you directly through the heir own platform, so less overhead costs. It's no different than Microsoft offering Office 365. They want you on a subscription as opposed to a one time purchase because on average people will spend more in subscription fees than the cost of the one time purchase of the software license. Then once you have it, you have to keep it to avoid losing access to what you've been using it for. It's 'stickier' this way.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 18, 2019 12:01:30 GMT
Omg like...are you telling me shutting down the BSN because it was the home of toxic fans and turning to social media and other platforms did not work? Maybe because the criticism was WARRANTED?
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 18, 2019 13:37:19 GMT
oh, alan... Alan alan alan. What do you do for a living? Besides working for BioWare, or being a former employee? If you don't work for a gaming company, this is just a weird thing to say. Gamers surely do deserve blame for many things, but legitimate complaints about false advertising ain't one of them. Are you a consumer? If you are a consumer, then as a gamer you consume gaming products. When you consume other products that perform poorly you return them, you call their customer support, you use social media, etc... Right? Or do you just have endless money and concerns of budget and dollars well spent is entirely foreign to you? TL;dr What planet do you live on alanc9 ? Where on earth did you get the idea that I meant "stuff"to include false advertising? I'd answer the post, but it seems to be so divorced from reality that I'm not sure it's worthwhile to bother. <blink blink> First argument I've ever won with you. Lol.
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